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that change is what i call "balanced"

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JemyM wrote:

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topfuel wrote:
I'm curious why so many of the post CU Jedi are scared to death of BH, yet most of the older Jedi I face welcome the fight and realize that it is the best content in the game for both sides.

It's selfish players like you that get this game nerfed into oblivion. Our professions are interdependant on each other. Also, it's not very cool to gloat about another professions nerf.

I too hope for Smuggler missions, maybe they won't cry as much as these nub Jedi do.

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I have been around since early 2004 and was not beaten up as a kid. So I have no aggressions that I have to take out in a videogame. Post-CU or Pre-CU doesnt matter. Some of us where not born in a barbarian tribe and feel no need to "show off" our brawns in front of our virtual friends to feel proud over ourselves.

The BH and Jedi system have the greatest priority in every silly publish, so the best "fix" for everybody, is to turn off the terminals.

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How is that best for everybody? Best for jedi who are afraid to be hunted I understand. But best for BHs and jedi that like challenge? Please explain?

Yes I agree that would balance the game, SOE has made me the content of the BH's and has stripped my chances of winning in a fight.

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_Cicero_ wrote:
Yes I agree that would balance the game, SOE has made me the content of the BH's and has stripped my chances of winning in a fight.

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not to mention stripped us of our own content (FRS), and continue to penalize us for trying to do any of the new content (no shrines on mustafar, just 1 cloning center...and es, we will be hunted on Mustafar.)

Message Edited by Dlek_Krego on 10-21-2005 02:31 PM

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topfuel wrote:

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GlargTheKelfn wrote:

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topfuel wrote:

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JemyM wrote:

Are we getting there?

Right now, if they disable the BH terminals... think about the peace...

Except for my laughter ofcourse.

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I'm curious why so many of the post CU Jedi are scared to death of BH, yet most of the older Jedi I face welcome the fight and realize that it is the best content in the game for both sides.

It's selfish players like you that get this game nerfed into oblivion. Our professions are interdependant on each other. Also, it's not very cool to gloat about another professions nerf.

I too hope for Smuggler missions, maybe they won't cry as much as these nub Jedi do.

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duh, pre cu jedi have decent sabers. post cu have crap. where have you been the last few months?

jedi was the purvey of the powergamer / pvp type for a while, now more and more normal non pvp types are jedi. that's why. the jedi players have changed. jedi has changed, forced pvp is not what a lot of us want.

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I've been beaten by plenty of post cu Jedi too, it's not just the sabers. Granted they are very nice though.

So, since that is your reasoning...If you had a pre-cu saber, you wouldn't mind the forced PvP then?

If you bother to learn to play your profession (like you have to do in every other non button mashing game), 99% of BH wouldn't be a problem for you.

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saber doesn't matter to me, i don't pvp. i have a mbh loot wh0re alt that doesn't hunt jedi. but he has uber double & tripple capped & sliced weapons and all the goodies. i just dont want to pvp. period. even if i had an uber pre cu saber, i still wouldn't pvp

The best thing they could do would be to remove player bounties forever. It simply is the source of too much ill will and grief in the game. It's a terrible idea, if not evil, and I am quite amazed the devs have not put an end to it sooner than this. This last patch just highlights how rotten the entire Jedi mark system is and why it needs to go away, forever. BH existed before there were any Jedi (they hunted NPCs). Let them go back to NPCs, which BTW are dropping the uber loot as it stands now. I have a BH, not to hunt Jedi but for the loots. How many Jedi have a BH alt, how many players out there have a BH? It isn't like it's an unpopular profession. IMO, there is no need or use for the Jedi mark system. I think replacing Jedi with Smugglers is a terrible idea as well. Why the heck should they be sujected to what Jedi have been subjected to for so long? I don't want anyone forced to be content for BH, or the recepient of someone elses anger, grief, or mischevious behavior. There should always be an option, and staying off the terms is not an option as it removes 90% of the high end content from the Jedi (Vette, DWB, NS, etc).

I suggest they:

1) Make being on the BH terms volunatry, in line with SF (suspect this would take a while to code and thus would be a while before it could be released)

2) Just get rid of player marks all together (I suspect this would be real simple to do and could be released in a day)

I would be happy with either solution.

JMO

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Tinakarath wrote:

If you really want to diminish the current interest in Jedi bounties - go help the smugglers put together a solid revamp proposal and viable player bounty system.

Considering that many, many, many smugglers actually want to be hunted, I'd think the very day such a system went live, all the Jedi would find themselves wondering where all the Bounty Hunters went. (C;

And no... I'm not being sarcastic. I'd much rather hunt a smuggler - aprticularly one who was aligned with an opposing 'underground/ criminal' faction - *cough* Hutts/ Blacksun *cough

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Good luck, they haven't listened to us for 2 years. Maybe if enough Jedi start moaning on the smuggler boards they will listen though

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Too right! Cos devs are just falling over themselves to respond to the thousands ofposts about the debuff changes on the jedi forums over the last two days.

Oh btw, don't ask for the attention jedi have been getting from the devswhatever you do. You'd be better off sharing a cell with big Bubba. He's far more gentle.

Message Edited by Jarred-infinity on 10-21-2005 11:03 PM

Message Edited by wookie-mart on 10-21-2005 03:58 PM

When the only PvP in the game is forced PvP the devs need to think how unenjoyable the PvP system in this game must be. Now dont get me wrong I know there is some special forces PvP and some guild wars but its no where near where it was pre CU and on some servers it doesnt happen at all. Given this and how much hassle it would remove the vissibility system should at the very least be put on hold while they have us test the new patches on a live server. Jedi in the civil war isnt whats killing it, jedi are far less over powering than the rifelman Combat Medic was Prc Cu so its wrong to think that the reason PvP isnt fun is because of jedi. Its cause the Devs cant manage to balance this game.

topfuel wrote:

I'm curious why so many of the post CU Jedi are scared to death of BH, yet most of the older Jedi I face welcome the fight and realize that it is the best content in the game for both sides.

It's selfish players like you that get this game nerfed into oblivion. Our professions are interdependant on each other. Also, it's not very cool to gloat about another professions nerf.

I too hope for Smuggler missions, maybe they won't cry as much as these nub Jedi do.

Message Edited by noothername on 10-21-2005 06:10 PM