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Thread: Krayt tissues in a DXR

jackswift717
Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:36 pm
#1

Since I've been stocking quite a nice amount of Krayt tissues in my house for awhile. Plus I was thinking of putting the tissues towards a few rifles if possible.

So, I was wondering how many tissues can go into one DXR rifle?
Milgram
Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:47 pm
#2

It takes 5 power handlers for a dxr-6b (the rifle). This means you need 6 tissues, one for the schematic, 5 for the identical handlers. If you happen to have a set of 11, you can make yourself 2 rifles.




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Jagbar
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:11 pm
#3






Milgram wrote:

It takes 5 power handlers for a dxr-6b (the rifle). This means you need 6 tissues, one for the schematic, 5 for the identical handlers. If you happen to have a set of 11, you can make yourself 2 rifles.






if you have 11 skip the two dxr's and make a t-21



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Jasef
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:19 pm
#4




Jagbar wrote:





Milgram wrote:

It takes 5 power handlers for a dxr-6b (the rifle). This means you need 6 tissues, one for the schematic, 5 for the identical handlers. If you happen to have a set of 11, you can make yourself 2 rifles.






if you have 11 skip the two dxr's and make a t-21






Quite the opposite. 2 gives better odds for slice, not to mention a dxr is much better in PvP than T21's....

Message Edited by Jasef on 03-16-2005 07:19 PM



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Jagbar
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:42 pm
#5






Jasef wrote:






Jagbar wrote:








Milgram wrote:


It takes 5 power handlers for a dxr-6b (the rifle). This means you need 6 tissues, one for the schematic, 5 for the identical handlers. If you happen to have a set of 11, you can make yourself 2 rifles.









if you have 11 skip the two dxr's and make a t-21









Quite the opposite. 2 gives better odds for slice, not to mention a dxr is much better in PvP than T21's....

Message Edited by Jasef on 03-16-2005 07:19 PM





i was talking about PVE.. but if we're talking PVP now put em in two jawas



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hase2
Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:34 am
#6

though - the benefit from tissues is greater ina DXR than in a T21.

so when you have 11 tissues i would go for DXRs as well.


of course tissues arent that hard to get so best would be to do both
Dakhanz
Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:21 am
#7

I dont know about everyone else... but I am hoarding tissue for the CU... ALOT of nice perty new rifles coming Can we say exploding rifle, mmm.


Not to mention, supposedly all weapons will be balanced, and have a specific use.


On the DXr... Acid damage is very nice, and definately very useful in complement to a t21. Example, dxr6 mow down rancors.



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hossp
Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:11 am
#8

yeah as a rifleman/ch, the tenloss acid rifle is very usefull, i wore out 2 of them hunting a bull rancor baby and you can drop an ancient bull in about 12 shots, with a good one...you can also drop juvies pretty quickly as they have med armor and 15 acid res...nyax has only 10 acid res...not good on gdk's though, but many mid to higher end mobs are vulnerable to a good tenloss



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Milgram
Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:30 pm
#9

Here is my reasoning:


For arguement's sake, let's assume that the best t21 our server can produce is a 150-400damage. This means that if I were to buy 1 million creds worth of t21's (about 40 t21's), and slice day and night, i could get a 203-540. Now, say i throw down1 million for a set of11 +50 tissues. I get a 25% damage slice. Now i have a weapon that is 188-562.


Base with 35% damage slice (203-540):


  • PvE average Damage: 372

  • PvP average Damage (vs mitigation III, and without 75% reduction): 270

+50 Krayt tissue with 25% Damage Slice (188-562):



  • PvE average Damage: 375

  • PvP average Damage (vs mitigation III, and without 75% reduction): 263

We have spent even money, and come up with two weapons that are basically equivelant. However, it is very important to keep in mind that the krayt version is not optimal, nor is it gaurenteed to be that good. The 25% damage slice has about 50% chance of happening (50% chance for a damage slice, 25% being the average damage slice - 15%-35%). Realisticaly, this means that you are going to need to spend, on average, twice the money to come up with an equivelant weapon.


Don't let mewizz on your camp fire, however. Once you have the 35% sliced base T21, the only way to go up is with a Krayt version. Keep in mind, however, if you don't have the 35% damage sliced t21, your money is better spend buying crates of these and slicing untill you get one.


Krayt tissues are only effective in t21's if you are lucky, not speed capped (doesn't matter what slice you get, it will still help you out), or if you have the time and $$$ to actively persue the amazing krayt t21, as opposed to trying to lottery ticket one. Also, if you are actively persueing one, look for tissues higher than 60%. As you see from my example, +50's require a 26% or better damage slice to make them better than a base t21. When looking at your tissues, look at how low a damage slice you can get and still have a better than base T21. Also, don't just look at max damage. Look at average damage. If you are going to use the weapon for PvP, look at it with mitigation III.


I love my krayt t21 (though i bought it from someone else, I figure 5 million is worth them taking the risk of a speed slice). However, if you are looking at things in a purely economical, highly efficient manner, tissues are better used elsewhere.





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Buzziewaaba
Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:01 pm
#10



Dakhanz wrote:
I dont know about everyone else... but I am hoarding tissue for the CU... ALOT of nice perty new rifles coming Can we say exploding rifle, mmm.
Not to mention, supposedly all weapons will be balanced, and have a specific use.
On the DXr... Acid damage is very nice, and definately very useful in complement to a t21. Example, dxr6 mow down rancors.





I'm with you, have 400 krayt tissues cooked into ABPHs now. I make mainly melee weapons, missed out on the best resources to make ABPHs so I don't bother, so when revamp hits I hope I'm ready. Plus I know of a 3 other smiths, older as far as smithing than I, that are hoarding whatever they can get their hands on.



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PTtech
Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:29 pm
#11

Milgram,

Seeing as you already have a Krayt T-21 and I want one, I think it's a great use of tissue.



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Milgram
Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:10 pm
#12

I just barely got it, but i have really bad luck, so i was never willing to shell the $$$ for a set of 11 to try making one myself. What i was trying to say with my post, is don't buy tissues that are less than +55-60 because if you don't, you have less than a 50% chance of getting a better than baserifle. I also think that making 2 jawas or dxr6b's is a better use for sub +55 tissues.




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PTtech
Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:34 pm
#13

OK, now I'm following you.

Thanks for the clarity.



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