Items And Loot Archive
Thread: SWG needs loot, but guess what.....................
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Rico4
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:13 am
#1
......................Its already there! its just crap.
Im sick of people saying there is no loot in SWG. But i know why people (including myself) say it. Its because its too common- even the price of AAs/CAs have dropped which makes looting these (if your even that lucky) not much fun.
The thing that makes loot great is not so much the Uberness but the rareity. They just need to add things to the game that will be cool and rare- this makes them Uber! At least then you will go looting knowing that somewhere out there these items are lurking waiting to be found!
You only have to go back to the loot kits to see what effect this has, is a Giant model Gong really that good? No. But back then the all important adhesives were rare and looting one put a smile on your face.
Pre CU you had the elusive Legedary/Exceptional weapons that gave you a reason to hunt Elders/Ancients etc but now we get smuggler tools and if we are lucky a CA which again unless its a LS or a General xxxxxx over 10 isnt gonna be worth much.
Its so simple to make loot, it doesnt have to be anything special. even more loot kits, different rugs and decorations will bring out the loot hunters once again, why not for the time been just add in all the paintings in NPC cities and buildings which are already there but for some reason not attainable?? The only thing is like most loot such as these they would put them in the loot tables of lvl 10 meatlumps and other city thugs making them easy to farm<---- this ruins the whole loot process as too much is looted too quickly, devaluing it untill the server is packed with it and eventually making it worthless.
Right now all that i can think of that drops is smuggler tools, AA/CAs, naff weapons, crystals, and then just your general /delete items like clothes, viewscreens etc.
Even as a MBH who has the ability to loot Power Cells/Casings its still not much fun, because soon these will also be next to worthless as are krayt tissues now. All servers will be full of fully capped ADKd weapons.
Just throw in some loot (anything cool) and make it rare and only drop from wild and random npcs to stop them been farmed.
Right now SWG is just so boring with nothing to loot, nothing to sell, nothing to buy-nothing to do 
Message Edited by Rico4 on 09-15-2005 04:14 PM
spincrus
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:36 am
#2
One note on the price drop concerning SEAs: ADK...
Anti-Decay Kits have RUINED the game for Armorsmiths, Weaponsmiths and Loot Hunters.
I, as a 12pt. Weaponsmith with my alt, know this pretty good.
But if there would drop more CAs and AAs, more weapon enhancements, better yet, more variety of schematics + looted components to make a certain item (such as BH armor, Trandoshan Hunting Rifle, etc.), then we would actually HAVE something to sell/buy.
We need more variety andmore NPCs that drop the loot.
Unika
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:45 am
#3
Ummm I personally have two ADK's. One from each of my accts. I use them on two weapons that are really exceptional. However, I am soon to be searching for a new set of other wpns. As a Commando right now, my wpns are my specials. I still can not find a WS to make them and stock them in bulk without special ordering them. There is no real selection and I am supporting a couple of WS from just those weapons.. we won't even talk about my pistol habit.
It isn't like we get one every 3 months after a year, it is one per acct that has been active for a full year. I don't think it is too unbalancing. I would also like to know where to find said loot. I have been doing missions out of boredom lately, and out of 55 missions I have gotten credits and 2 tatooine tapestry schematics, 5 CDEF weapons, and a fruit.
It isn't like we get one every 3 months after a year, it is one per acct that has been active for a full year. I don't think it is too unbalancing. I would also like to know where to find said loot. I have been doing missions out of boredom lately, and out of 55 missions I have gotten credits and 2 tatooine tapestry schematics, 5 CDEF weapons, and a fruit.
Message Edited by Unika on 09-15-2005 09:46 AM
Rico4
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:59 am
#4
spincrus wrote:
One note on the price drop concerning SEAs: ADK...
Anti-Decay Kits have RUINED the game for Armorsmiths, Weaponsmiths and Loot Hunters.
I, as a 12pt. Weaponsmith with my alt, know this pretty good.
But if there would drop more CAs and AAs, more weapon enhancements, better yet, more variety of schematics + looted components to make a certain item (such as BH armor, Trandoshan Hunting Rifle, etc.), then we would actually HAVE something to sell/buy.
We need more variety andmore NPCs that drop the loot.
New scheamtics etc are only good for providing cooler looking weapons, while damage caps are in place most people will stick witht their old ADK'd triple capped carbine rather than spending more money on a 'craftable' proton carbine with the same stats but different look. And although the BH armor was a nice addition it has no real cycle in the game, the BH loot it and the BH wear it. They either have an AS make it for them for a small fee or sell the schematics for XXX and then an AS will make and resell to another BH for XXX+little profit.
As a WS i would like to see new schematics as it would give me something new to craft, but that doesnt mean it will sell. Weapon enhancing loot is wasted while the stupid crafting caps and even more annoying slicing caps/system is in place.
I agree that the ADK has to take alot of the blame
DaxHerder
Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:38 am
#5
Some of the more uberloot needs to stay rare definitely, but some lesser stuff needs to be some what common maybe a 1:50 drop rate? Considering how quickly armor wastes and how expensive ADKs are. Whats the problem with dropping at least the +4 Armor Attachments 1:50 or 1:100? You can play any other game and get drops you can immediately put on your character for a decent benefit. Seems like the devs are balance paranoid and are scared to add any good loot to the game like that for fear of unbalancing the game. Just leave the really nice loot rare, but please provide some "commons" that are not view screens and such....
HAN-SOLO
Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:34 am
#6
I agree 100% with the need for loot. Loot is the carrot that motivates end gamers to keep playing.
Any RPG online or not needs loot to be fun. SOE chose to copy WOW for the combat upgrade but stopped there. WOW is a good game, other than it was very unstable on my computers, but was fun to play because you looted items that were not trash. Even as a mid 20 level character in WOW I can loot items that give bonuses to stats or sell to npcs. This changes the dynamic of the combat because you can wear items that give you an edge.
I understand that the devs want to protect the crafters by allowing them to be the creators of all items but at what expense. I have millions of credits and have reached the end of this game in terms of character and loot items. I just don't think that it would be that hard to add some worthwhile loot to entice players that have been around for more than a month.
The bad news is that the devs have gone the other way and stuffed high end mobs with trash or even removed the loot entirely, ie Jedi Sentinels. I just don't even understand this regression. Content is more than just new things to kill, there has to be a motivator to do it. So why remove the motivation to play? I just dont need any more cdef pistols, way to go on creativity in naming are there going to be lmno pistols in the expantion?
BMorgn66
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:28 am
#7
try looting binary liquids or protective liquid coatings in the dwb
HAN-SOLO
Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:00 am
#8
Brakkus the troll thinks it has a solution, thanks I never thought of looting the DWB, oh wait...its not 2004.
VolvoSsixtyTsix
Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:46 am
#9
We had UBER and exeptional loot. Examples :exeptional T21, legendary power hammer, exeptional LVA, exeptional stone knife (2k action poison). They were rare and UBER beyond beleif, but their uberness gave lucky owners extreme edge over all other players.
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