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Thread: Lets compair the UO Dev's response to the SWG Dev's response concerning Rewards shall we?
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Blackjack_Nova
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:13 pm
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SWG is not the only MMORPG that has rewards. UO (Ultima Online) does as well.
Their community was asked what rewards they though would be cool and just like our
Their community was asked what rewards they though would be cool and just like our
community there was a hugh response. When it came time to deliever the rewards,
the Dev's for UO not only delivered some very cool rewards but they talked about the
reasons why some of the rewards that people wanted where not offered.
The contast of communitcation between us and our DEVs and UO's community and there
The contast of communitcation between us and our DEVs and UO's community and there
DEV's is so massive that well...just read....
One of there DEVs is "Callandryll" he/she posted about there Rewards...
Callandryll decided recently to lay the smacketh down on the rumor mill that just loves to get churning in UO on a day to basis. So without furthur ado... enjoy.
Callandryll decided recently to lay the smacketh down on the rumor mill that just loves to get churning in UO on a day to basis. So without furthur ado... enjoy.
First, thanks to everyone who has posted ideas here. While I am not directly working on the rewards, I did help design some of them and have kept an interest in the feedback. I would like to give some feedback though to help all of you when presenting your ideas by letting you know some limitations. Two things to keep in mind are that vet rewards should not give the player too much of an advantage (the ethereals are about the largest advantage that should be given from a vet reward) and that vet rewards are meant to be a symbol of the player's veteran status.
That said, I've read a bunch of the ideas and I'd like to comment on the ones that I fear would be problematic or imbalancing, thus making them unfit for a vet. reward. Note that this represents current thinking, future enhancements to UO could change this...Stat/skill increases - we have no plans to permantently increase skill or stat caps at this time. Aside from the balance issues this would create there are also tons of code issues as those caps are inherent to many other systems. New wearables and art - not possible in the 2d client because of the issues with making them work on your avatar. Unless you wanted us to make wearables that ONLY worked in the 3d client, we cannot add new art like this to the game. Note that Blackthorn and British armor are not wearables. Most new art has these limitations at the moment. Blessed deeds/weapons - we removed the bless deed last year because of balance issues. While we know there are some in the world still, adding more (that are only available to vets) will not help.
Name changes - again, Name Change Deeds were removed becuase of balance and support problems(mostly support). No plans whatsoever of ever putting these in, either as a reward or a general update. Stables - a great idea, but one fraught with peril. The stable master or hitching post idea has issues with the spawner that until resolved keep it from being considered. In truth, should those ever be resolved, this would probably be a general update, rather than a reward though.
Please don't take this post as a slap down or my way of saying the ideas are bad. They're not. However, I do think it is usefull to you to know the limitations and the boundaries when scoping out your ideas. Again, thanks to everyone who has posted, we actually have not even started coding these yet (almost all efforts are on the upcoming publish) so there is time for revision. No promises of course, and I am glad to see so many positive responses to the current plan.
So there you go, the rumor mill is offically squashed once again. I really love it when he comes out and lays it all out there. Much to the whiners dismay...
Later
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Maybe we can pretent that this was from one of our DEV's.... maybe....
GnomeAd
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:28 pm
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Blackjack_Nova wrote:
Maybe we can pretent that this was from one of our DEV's.... maybe....
Ummm..Actually, he WAS one of our devs.....
YunTxiin
Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:31 pm
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A huge contrast indeed.....
The least "our" devs could have done is give some explanation as to why all of the ideas posted were not used, though I this we can all do an educated guess.... Many of the ideas would have a negative effect on one or more professions ingame. (Like the ADK has done to some degree). Thoug I also think that with proper planning, they could have done a lot more than has been done now.
But, I for one like the rewards, as I am a magpie when it come to decoration thingies 
Nightmare89
Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:37 pm
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Man, when i played uo the rewards were sweet and actually added much to the game for vets, it took forever for them to come out with rewards..adk's tooo sooon, lol...i loved my ethereal llama.....ooo'
SharkBoy007
Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:42 pm
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GnomeAd wrote:
Blackjack_Nova wrote:
Maybe we can pretent that this was from one of our DEV's.... maybe....
Ummm..Actually, he WAS one of our devs.....
Until he/she was fired for trying to make SWG actually fun....
Oh, you forgot the SWG devs response for our rewards:
*crickets chirping*
Message Edited by SharkBoy007 on 07-21-2005 02:43 PM
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