Items And Loot Archive
Thread: im a genious and have proof!
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Ojade
Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:12 pm
#1
I was really dissapointed at the new "loot system" but if i may be as bold to say that i am a genious and offer my theory for a new looting system?!?
this came to me one night while doing a bit of shopping when i noticed that alot of people tent to exaggerate the "Value" of an item i.e a krayted Laser Rifle thats PUP ed and has a max damage of 600 for 8million credits! or the allurian resources selling for 100k per unit! thats why the econemy is so horrible, because everyone loves and loathes LOOT. correct? look at other mmorpgs even i have heard of how bad the econemy is because 1 person or 1 group or 1 guild always camps one spawn/dungeon what have you. well instead of this stupid lottery/FFA/random stupid looting system how about 1type of loot for everybody, the same item for all who helped kill the creature/npc.
say you got a guild hunting a krayt dragon (normally would drop 1 pearl) is it really fair that only 1 person of a 20 person group gets that 1 item? HELL NO it aint! and if it was like this then every one who helped out in the group would get the same exact item!
i have run into this problem sooo many times when im out hunting a dragon or two. i can solo them. . . or atleast used to and would group others who wernt able to. now is it my fault that i can loot it befor the other guy? even if he outdamages me? now what if i loot it every time? he's going to get pissed! this way we are both happy i got loot i want he got loot he wanted!
so insead of putting in stupid stuff that we really dont need lets actually try getting the econemy under control first!
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SWG_Force
Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:18 pm
#2
Don't you mean genius? 
Message Edited by SWG_Force on 04-26-2005 07:19 AM
Resetgun
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:35 am
#3
SWG_Force wrote:
Don't you mean genius?
Message Edited by SWG_Force on 04-26-2005 07:19 AM
Ouch!
TheHammer317
Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:36 am
#4
so ur recommending that when my friend was grouped with some buddies and killed a NS elder and looted his 3.4k max dmg T21 everyone in the group should get one? that has got to be the most moronic idea i have ever heard... and u wanna know howu get around it?
write a macro and name it loot
/loot
/macro loot
you will loot it the split second it dies, and if u are really worried about looting make ur self master looter so only u can loot, that is if ur group lead... or just dont group with the guy, if u cant trust him dont group him... and also when i go krayt hunting i go with like 10+ jedi and 2 stackers plus a Rifleman(with the 3.4k max rifle) and mayb a doc or SL, we drop krayt like its no ones business, we cycle through the ppl and gettin pearls in no time, a friend of mine does what u do, it take him like 20-30min to kill a krayt and he might not even get a pearl, here i can get a pearl or 2 in an hour almost garunteed.
dumb idea... i gotta say Nay on this one
Ojade
Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:39 am
#5
first of all the title is just an "attention grabber" second I never did think of it that way but like you said your a loot hunter and thats your major way of income, yet alot of people like you are the main reason that the econemy is so broke, selling skill tapes that dont even work for thousands and even millions of credits, but i guess the more important question is why do broken seas still drop?
Ojade
Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:17 am
#6
and also the drop rate of crystals isnt that bad if you know where to hunt, they may not be "The best ever" but 99% of the ones i have gotted were atleast quality and rarely a couple of selects, i have about 12 static spawns that give good jedi loot which is what alot of people want, now by the time it takes you to travel/kill all of the spawns at these wp's they will spawn again! and these arent campt so that leaves you with 100%loot, i guess my point in the first statement was that its not really fair for only 1 person to get the loot, what happens when one person gets what they want and leaves the group? group gets less people, and say this happens ever kill, the group gets too small and then the other people cant get loot. . . some may say o well. but i just dont think its really fair, and what would it really matter if an Uber hunter did hire abunch of noobs to hunt a krayt? he cant Make them give him their loot can he? and one more thing i think that every one can agree on is when the NS elder does drop Good loot its always going to be expensive when people sell it no matter what, but for me i keep 99% of what i loot for show, mainly bragging right "hey in not cheap, i didnt buy this, i looted it" ,more value really to me. and yes i have hunted NS elders by my self but the drop rate IS really really low, and yea i did get pissed when all i got was 3k credits but o well if i wanted money i just run janta missions for 32k in some towns with my at-st, no biggie. there just needs to be a way to EVEN MORE evenly distribute loot, and yes that was my point to get some of this more common loot down in price range,where it should be. 1st step to get the econemy back together, its been broke for the better part of the 2years ive been playing.
Ecnirp
Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:09 am
#7
Ojade wrote:
and also the drop rate of crystals isnt that bad if you know where to hunt, they may not be "The best ever" but 99% of the ones i have gotted were atleast quality and rarely a couple of selects, i have about 12 static spawns that give good jedi loot which is what alot of people want, now by the time it takes you to travel/kill all of the spawns at these wp's they will spawn again! and these arent campt so that leaves you with 100%loot, i guess my point in the first statement was that its not really fair for only 1 person to get the loot, what happens when one person gets what they want and leaves the group? group gets less people, and say this happens ever kill, the group gets too small and then the other people cant get loot. . . some may say o well. but i just dont think its really fair, and what would it really matter if an Uber hunter did hire abunch of noobs to hunt a krayt? he cant Make them give him their loot can he? and one more thing i think that every one can agree on is when the NS elder does drop Good loot its always going to be expensive when people sell it no matter what, but for me i keep 99% of what i loot for show, mainly bragging right "hey in not cheap, i didnt buy this, i looted it" ,more value really to me. and yes i have hunted NS elders by my self but the drop rate IS really really low, and yea i did get pissed when all i got was 3k credits but o well if i wanted money i just run janta missions for 32k in some towns with my at-st, no biggie. there just needs to be a way to EVEN MORE evenly distribute loot, and yes that was my point to get some of this more common loot down in price range,where it should be. 1st step to get the econemy back together, its been broke for the better part of the 2years ive been playing.
Damn how the hell did you type all that without turning blue in the face and passing out?
themorph
Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:06 pm
#8
Now this is the worst idea ever. At the current drop rates life as a loot hunter is becoming harder and harder. Drop rates on crystals, pearls and skill tapes are pretty high, which let the prices decrease heavily and its my only way of income. Now if everyone in the group gets the same loot, prices will decrease even more. And consider of the chance to exploit in such a system. Veterans would head to Eisley and hire n00bs for cheap, to get their loot as well.
The only bad thing with the current loot system is that 'Free-For-All' looting is bugged when the leader is off-planet and you have to loot through the radial menu. But a group of 2 can bring a Krayt down twice a fast a 1 etc. This alone should encourage grouping, but still makes soloing available if you don't like groups or can hardly find any. The loot distribution options are supposed to prevent ninja looting and they do if you use them. Anyways, i just go out hunting with friends and always look for an even share for everyone. You ever used the '/trade' feature? Once a person looted, he dunno has to keep the stuff, it can still be shared. We all get a loot message, so everyone in the group knows, what the others got. Don't group with anyone you don't trust. And if you want, you can make someone the master looter, who is going to distribute the loot after the hunt.
A big problem we are facing is loot camping. For unique things like Axkva Min, Acklay, Woolamander Temple, Kimo Town, Nyax (before he stopped dropping tapes) and many more, you usually have to outdamage other groups (or get outdamaged) that are already camping the enemy or you have to camp it yourself, cause it just got killed. Those kind of dungeons should be instanciated or those enemies should get a flag, so you could only kill it once in a certain time period, to prevent camping. I heard Kashyyk will have more instanciated dungeons, so i am happily looking forward to more places in future, that are fun and not already camped.
greetz,
ALeoNN
Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:53 pm
#9
SWG_Force wrote:
Don't you mean genius?
Message Edited by SWG_Force on 04-26-2005 07:19 AM
SmokaFett1
Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:41 am
#10
dude genius is a strong word for you to be using
Ojade wrote:
and also the drop rate of crystals isnt that bad if you know where to hunt, they may not be "The best ever" but 99% of the ones i have gotted were atleast quality and rarely a couple of selects, i have about 12 static spawns that give good jedi loot which is what alot of people want, now by the time it takes you to travel/kill all of the spawns at these wp's they will spawn again! and these arent campt so that leaves you with 100%loot, i guess my point in the first statement was that its not really fair for only 1 person to get the loot, what happens when one person gets what they want and leaves the group? group gets less people, and say this happens ever kill, the group gets too small and then the other people cant get loot. . . some may say o well. but i just dont think its really fair, and what would it really matter if an Uber hunter did hire abunch of noobs to hunt a krayt? he cant Make them give him their loot can he? and one more thing i think that every one can agree on is when the NS elder does drop Good loot its always going to be expensive when people sell it no matter what, but for me i keep 99% of what i loot for show, mainly bragging right "hey in not cheap, i didnt buy this, i looted it" ,more value really to me. and yes i have hunted NS elders by my self but the drop rate IS really really low, and yea i did get pissed when all i got was 3k credits but o well if i wanted money i just run janta missions for 32k in some towns with my at-st, no biggie. there just needs to be a way to EVEN MORE evenly distribute loot, and yes that was my point to get some of this more common loot down in price range,where it should be. 1st step to get the econemy back together, its been broke for the better part of the 2years ive been playing.
TK-118
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:09 pm
#11
then nothing would be rare, say if you were in a group of 20 and you killed a ns and it dropped a bicep then 20 people would have an ns bicep or went bs hunting 20 peple might get like black sun helms. I know ns bicep is prolly nnon lootable but i was just saying.
Dakccoathania
Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:17 am
#12
Ecnirp wrote:
Ojade wrote:
and also the drop rate of crystals isnt that bad if you know where to hunt, they may not be "The best ever" but 99% of the ones i have gotted were atleast quality and rarely a couple of selects, i have about 12 static spawns that give good jedi loot which is what alot of people want, now by the time it takes you to travel/kill all of the spawns at these wp's they will spawn again! and these arent campt so that leaves you with 100%loot, i guess my point in the first statement was that its not really fair for only 1 person to get the loot, what happens when one person gets what they want and leaves the group? group gets less people, and say this happens ever kill, the group gets too small and then the other people cant get loot. . . some may say o well. but i just dont think its really fair, and what would it really matter if an Uber hunter did hire abunch of noobs to hunt a krayt? he cant Make them give him their loot can he? and one more thing i think that every one can agree on is when the NS elder does drop Good loot its always going to be expensive when people sell it no matter what, but for me i keep 99% of what i loot for show, mainly bragging right "hey in not cheap, i didnt buy this, i looted it" ,more value really to me. and yes i have hunted NS elders by my self but the drop rate IS really really low, and yea i did get pissed when all i got was 3k credits but o well if i wanted money i just run janta missions for 32k in some towns with my at-st, no biggie. there just needs to be a way to EVEN MORE evenly distribute loot, and yes that was my point to get some of this more common loot down in price range,where it should be. 1st step to get the econemy back together, its been broke for the better part of the 2years ive been playing.
Damn how the hell did you type all that without turning blue in the face and passing out?
wookieonrampage
Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:28 am
#13
Ojade wrote:
and also the drop rate of crystals isnt that bad if you know where to hunt, they may not be "The best ever" but 99% of the ones i have gotted were atleast quality and rarely a couple of selects, i have about 12 static spawns that give good jedi loot which is what alot of people want, now by the time it takes you to travel/kill all of the spawns at these wp's they will spawn again! and these arent campt so that leaves you with 100%loot, i guess my point in the first statement was that its not really fair for only 1 person to get the loot, what happens when one person gets what they want and leaves the group? group gets less people, and say this happens ever kill, the group gets too small and then the other people cant get loot. . . some may say o well. but i just dont think its really fair, and what would it really matter if an Uber hunter did hire abunch of noobs to hunt a krayt? he cant Make them give him their loot can he? and one more thing i think that every one can agree on is when the NS elder does drop Good loot its always going to be expensive when people sell it no matter what, but for me i keep 99% of what i loot for show, mainly bragging right "hey in not cheap, i didnt buy this, i looted it" ,more value really to me. and yes i have hunted NS elders by my self but the drop rate IS really really low, and yea i did get pissed when all i got was 3k credits but o well if i wanted money i just run janta missions for 32k in some towns with my at-st, no biggie. there just needs to be a way to EVEN MORE evenly distribute loot, and yes that was my point to get some of this more common loot down in price range,where it should be. 1st step to get the econemy back together, its been broke for the better part of the 2years ive been playing.
Must be a genius at language
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