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Thread: DWB issues. Please Devs Give it some Love!

WillSTARR
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:51 pm
#1

So Currently I have been so frustrated with the Death Watch Bunker. There needs to be some Fixes or Changes made to it.


Currently in the bunker there are the Loot Bins. They Spawn loot for awhile and once a rebreather spawns in the Bin it is no longer lootable. So the Cloakers/Campers sit in the Bunker near the Bins and loot em right after resets until they are dry, So by 4pm Ca time every bin in the bunker is dry. So the runs we plan around 8-10pm Ca time are super Dry.


Today I saw one of these Cloaker/Camper venders with almost 60 DW Items including Jetpack Parts for 4-5 million a peace. So while my great crew of 8 people is striving everytime to loot one part this goes on. It is very frustratingfor some awesome people.


Im hoping with the DWB.. that soon with the cloak changes some of this will be fixed. But the DWB needs some love pretty bad! Maybe a intstenced version like the Myydrill or take the Rebreathers out of the loot tables. Loose the Bins all together and up the loot rate. Just give the DWB some love please!


Anyone else who agrees or has any other input post up. I for one would love to see a DWB revamp!



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Xalya_Shadowalker
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:53 pm
#2

They need to just get rid of the coal bins.







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agonist
Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:57 pm
#3


QFE :::::: Loose the Bins all together and up the loot rate.





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WillSTARR
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:00 pm
#4

Yea that would work!



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SmokaFett1
Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:21 pm
#5






WillSTARR wrote:

So Currently I have been so frustrated with the Death Watch Bunker. There needs to be some Fixes or Changes made to it.


Currently in the bunker there are the Loot Bins. They Spawn loot for awhile and once a rebreather spawns in the Bin it is no longer lootable. So the Cloakers/Campers sit in the Bunker near the Bins and loot em right after resets until they are dry, So by 4pm Ca time every bin in the bunker is dry. So the runs we plan around 8-10pm Ca time are super Dry.


Today I saw one of these Cloaker/Camper venders with almost 60 DW Items including Jetpack Parts for 4-5 million a peace. So while my great crew of 8 people is striving everytime to loot one part this goes on. It is very frustratingfor some awesome people.


Im hoping with the DWB.. that soon with the cloak changes some of this will be fixed. But the DWB needs some love pretty bad! Maybe a intstenced version like the Myydrill or take the Rebreathers out of the loot tables. Loose the Bins all together and up the loot rate. Just give the DWB some love please!


Anyone else who agrees or has any other input post up. I for one would love to see a DWB revamp!






so are u only talkin about the first coal bin?...cause u know there are 3 more to be looted...not to mention the parts drop off npc's too


and if u are only talking about the 1st bin then god forbid u cant loot jetpack parts without goin past the 3rd room


and if u arent talkin about just the first one...u do realize there is no way a single cloakercan get to the other 3 bins solo without already having keys right?


sounds to me like someone needs to get off their ass and actually head into the bunker for their loot


and i wouldnt exactly call that a revamp...maybe fixing one small bug that has been around forever...but thats FAR from a revamp





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pussycat
Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:08 pm
#6



SmokaFett1 wrote:


WillSTARR wrote:
So Currently I have been so frustrated with the Death Watch Bunker. There needs to be some Fixes or Changes made to it.
Currently in the bunker there are the Loot Bins. They Spawn loot for awhile and once a rebreather spawns in the Bin it is no longer lootable. So the Cloakers/Campers sit in the Bunker near the Bins and loot em right after resets until they are dry, So by 4pm Ca time every bin in the bunker is dry. So the runs we plan around 8-10pm Ca time are super Dry.
Today I saw one of these Cloaker/Camper venders with almost 60 DW Items including Jetpack Parts for 4-5 million a peace. So while my great crew of 8 people is striving everytime to loot one part this goes on. It is very frustrating for some awesome people.
Im hoping with the DWB.. that soon with the cloak changes some of this will be fixed. But the DWB needs some love pretty bad! Maybe a intstenced version like the Myydrill or take the Rebreathers out of the loot tables. Loose the Bins all together and up the loot rate. Just give the DWB some love please!
Anyone else who agrees or has any other input post up. I for one would love to see a DWB revamp!



so are u only talkin about the first coal bin?...cause u know there are 3 more to be looted...not to mention the parts drop off npc's too

and if u are only talking about the 1st bin then god forbid u cant loot jetpack parts without goin past the 3rd room

and if u arent talkin about just the first one...u do realize there is no way a single cloaker can get to the other 3 bins solo without already having keys right?

sounds to me like someone needs to get off their ass and actually head into the bunker for their loot

and i wouldnt exactly call that a revamp...maybe fixing one small bug that has been around forever...but thats FAR from a revamp






You may dispense with the condescending attitude... your reading comprehension must be pretty poor if you say something like "someone needs to get off their ass", the OP said quite clearly that he and his group organize DWB runs in the evening. And even if it were just the first chest that is empty by the time they get there, it seems like there ought to be a better way to do it, so that everyone who organizes runs in the evening hours has the same chance as someone who goes to the DWB in the morning.

I also agree with the OP that the DWB could use a little love, it is one of the best parts of the game and it can keep you entertained for many months, assuming you or someone you know starts organizing runs with the eventual purpose of crafting jetpacks and/or Mando armor. But in the last few months, it has become a very frustrating place due to excessively high CL's and very low drop rates. This, in turn, encourages DWB campers who have been known to camp the place for weeks at a time.

There should be a better way, and one that will make this a dungeon that all of the player base will have the chance to enjoy.

The new CL's with publish 24 might be the start of it, but much more needs to be done. Unfortunatley, it won't likely be a high priority, since it's already part of the core game and making it better might not help sell expansions - and that seems to be the top priority atm.
rheven
Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:33 pm
#7


no looting slicing kits that would be good



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BloodBash
Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:14 pm
#8

I think Cloak shouldnt hide you from a robot or cloak auto turns off once enter a cave/bunker




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WillSTARR
Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:03 am
#9






SmokaFett1 wrote:


so are u only talkin about the first coal bin?...cause u know there are 3 more to be looted...not to mention the parts drop off npc's too


and if u are only talking about the 1st bin then god forbid u cant loot jetpack parts without goin past the 3rd room


and if u arent talkin about just the first one...u do realize there is no way a single cloakercan get to the other 3 bins solo without already having keys right?


sounds to me like someone needs to get off their ass and actually head into the bunker for their loot


and i wouldnt exactly call that a revamp...maybe fixing one small bug that has been around forever...but thats FAR from a revamp







You dont know me? And you talk to me like this? did you really tell me to get off my ass and head in the Bunker? LOL.


Anyways I have Crafted many times. I know where the bins are and how to get to em. As for a Single Cloaker gettin in. Its easy. They get in in a group and log out IN THE BUNKER! So everytime they log in they can cloak and run around on that level all they want.


You need to learn to talk to people SmokaFett1. You come off like an idiot.





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WillSTARR
Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:12 am
#10






pussycat wrote:




You may dispense with the condescending attitude... your reading comprehension must be pretty poor if you say something like "someone needs to get off their ass", the OP said quite clearly that he and his group organize DWB runs in the evening. And even if it were just the first chest that is empty by the time they get there, it seems like there ought to be a better way to do it, so that everyone who organizes runs in the evening hours has the same chance as someone who goes to the DWB in the morning.

I also agree with the OP that the DWB could use a little love, it is one of the best parts of the game and it can keep you entertained for many months, assuming you or someone you know starts organizing runs with the eventual purpose of crafting jetpacks and/or Mando armor. But in the last few months, it has become a very frustrating place due to excessively high CL's and very low drop rates. This, in turn, encourages DWB campers who have been known to camp the place for weeks at a time.

There should be a better way, and one that will make this a dungeon that all of the player base will have the chance to enjoy.

The new CL's with publish 24 might be the start of it, but much more needs to be done. Unfortunatley, it won't likely be a high priority, since it's already part of the core game and making it better might not help sell expansions - and that seems to be the top priority atm.




Thank you Pussycat. I was not aware there were some CL changes with Pub 24 ill have to check it out. Hopefully something gets some love.


Thank you for acutally reading what i wrote. It frustrates me when I get a great group of 8 people together. We all work very hard in the bunker for hours to get nothing. And the Cloakers Log out and Log in there and get stuff. The people on my DWB team are my Fav people in game and to see them work so hard and they get the shaft sucks.


I would like to see the DWB Mando Components Quested or Get rid of the Bins and up the loot rate a Bit.


Even in the Loot Forum here there is a post of some guy looking to Camp. Stuff like this is causing alot of changes in this game. Look at ToOW. Alot of stuff is not Tradeable now cause of the loot whores.







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BOy2K
Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:27 am
#11

they need to adress cloak in the DWB badly.

clokers use teams to remove agro from them.
so you cannot do a run cos you get past the first lock and have a million SBDs suddenly jump on you.



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taarT
Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:51 am
#12

remove the chest/coal bins
keep droprate the same makes jetpacks rare and hard to get again... (too late now tho)



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DajonJamore
Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:10 am
#13





and if u arent talkin about just the first one...u do realize there is no way a single cloakercan get to the other 3 bins solo without already having keys right?


sounds to me like someone needs to get off their ass and actually head into the bunker for their loot



...................................CLOAKERS can SOLO key guys they have been doing it on BRIA for a while now, and also someone mentioned they take agro and others follow this is a REAL issue



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