Items And Loot Archive
Thread: Cross-Server Log Camping for Ebay Credits?
Agrakalla
Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:57 am
#66
randomizing means u dont go to a borgle bat cave for loot but for fun
*tries to break it down
*tries to break it down
ForceFielding
Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:07 pm
#67
The problem isn't the people that do this. So bashing people who take advantage of it is pointless. For every one that gets bored and quits or "banned" there will just be another to take his place
You don't need a 3rd party program to install your game into memory instead of the hard drive in order to log in the fastest. And you don't need a 3rd party program to attempt to grab somthing every .1 second.
The problem is the way the spawn is implemented ... you don't blame racoons for going through your trash ... you instead put the lids on tighter.
Milgram
Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:22 pm
#68
Hey folks, I have a question? What if cootie really is looting within the user agreement. What if he has Twin Raptors, 2 gigs of ram and a T3 connection. Maybe, just maybe, he will load the map a little quicker than you with your 512 RAM, a 8k RPM fragmented hard drive and spyware eating 100k of your system resources.Oh ya, what if he has a lot of skill and practice at doing this. What if he is just plain better than most others? Nah, probably not.He is just a cheater since you are the best legalloot camper. Only cheeters could possably beat you. Sounds to me like you are all just really pissed that he is getting the loot and you are not. Sounds like basic jelousy to me.
cpz
Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:11 pm
#69
Ouch
Have I been flamed?
Well, to answer your question,what bothers me is that some is able to log in next to the loot point, grab the loot and log out, and have timed perfectly so that no average players stand a chance of looting, even after havign cleared the cave, as was the obvious intent of the programmers.
I imean come on, is this healthy, normal play? To pop in, grab, pop out? Is that how we are supposed to play? Is that what they foresaw when they drew up plans for the Borgle Cave. No, of course not. D'uh.
The issues with people camping the Acklay or other spawnnpcs are different, because you still have to participate in the game to do so...you have to put effort in. This timedteleport looting involves no game participation and should therefore be stopped.
Milgram
Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:31 pm
#70
cpz wrote:
Ouch
Have I been flamed?
Well, to answer your question,what bothers me is that some is able to log in next to the loot point, grab the loot and log out, and have timed perfectly so that no average players stand a chance of looting, even after havign cleared the cave, as was the obvious intent of the programmers.
I imean come on, is this healthy, normal play? To pop in, grab, pop out? Is that how we are supposed to play? Is that what they foresaw when they drew up plans for the Borgle Cave. No, of course not. D'uh.
The issues with people camping the Acklay or other spawnnpcs are different, because you still have to participate in the game to do so...you have to put effort in. This timedteleport looting involves no game participation and should therefore be stopped.
If a pair of debris piles spawn loot once every 10 hours, not everyone is going to be able to get in on the action. The best looter is going to come up with with the loot, not the "average" player. My advice is to stop being average, and start being Uber. It really isn't all that hard. Others are, so what is keeping you down?
Is it healthy? Well, I doubt the people doing it are getting ulsers over the guilt they feel. Is it normal? Have you ever been there at spawn time? I would have to argue that poping in and poping out is pretty normal behavior.
As far as what they forsaw, who knows. What did the Devs forsee when they made 20 min Nyax? I am sure they envisioned hundereds of players holding hands as they killed Nyax, then having a nice guy "You take the +15 armor experimentation" "No, I couldn't possibly take it, I want you to have it" arguement. In the end, they auction the tape on the forums, and donate the credits to new players. Ahhhhh, what awonderful world the devs have created for us.
Milgram
Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:09 pm
#71
Man, people use the exploit so loosly. It used to mean someone who dooped millions of credits or double sliced. Now it means someone who uses game rules to beat you.
As for wanting a change in the loot system, i totaly agree. The Idea that only one POI spawns good loot and you need to do nothing for it is laughable. Lol, the Borgle Matriarch doesn't even agro the people camping. Give me a break. If a Magna-seal container is gaurded by an elder or a protector, maybe it should have a little more than 5k credits (NS Labor Camp). In the mean time, You cannot demonize people using GAME RULES to achieve their ends. Who are you to say where a person can log in and log out?
I would love to see Nyax blasted into space to hang out on the corvette, or see the borgle cave times randomized or distributed accross all the POIs of the galaxy. These seem to be advanced concepts that are out of the Dev's relm of feasibility. Up untill it changes, the way looting is conducted right now is just the way it is, and we all need to adapt and over come.
cpz
Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:25 pm
#72
Milgram wrote:
"Who are you to say where a person can log in and log out?"
I'm a player with opinions, and it's my ability to complain about this exploit as much as it is the ability of player X to exploit the game as he does
"and we all need to adapt and over come"
That's what the purpose of this thread is, to get it recognised and overcomeby changing the system to make teleport looting impossible
Oowafas
Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:14 am
#74
THE FACT IS:
A) the devs don't care about ebay selling
B)i think they even fuel ebay selling myself
Kid22
Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:59 am
#77
Not for nothing, but if no one bought these off Ebay..no one would sell them...its kinda up to us to stop em 
Zaddik
Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:06 am
#78
Milgram.... The only real blind man is the one that doesn't want to see.
/bump for Dev awareness. Bring on the ramdomized loot spawn and ban the likes of Cootie
Zad MacLeod
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Gorath
Message Edited by Zaddik on 02-05-2005 01:07 PM