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Thread: Health Crystals
Jorvas wrote:
Is it really that hard to figure out that these crystals wont be nerfed?
Who are they primarily aimed at? Who pursues the FS grind? That´s right...the allmighty JEDI!!!
Of course the crystals cant be nerfed...because if they were..guess who would whine? And we cant have whining jedi...it´s better to just give them what they want so they can run around playing gods...
Do I sound bitter? Disillusioned? Wanna flame me?
Go ahead...the way this galaxy is heading, I dont know if I´ll care...
dud thats sooooo much of a bs, all trade boards are full of crystal sellers ... powergamers can easily claim 5-10
Danto1 wrote:
agree with eggshen, any player with money can purchase 3 or 4 of these things easy enough and run around overpowered in game because of them.
not sure I agree with 200, but 2000 is too high (in my opinion)
I tried to point out what was happening with these a few weeks back, but got shouted down as a jealous noob 
The guys with the cash to buy masses of them can use them to stay mroe or less permanently at 5k HAM. Also, with the house "bug" it would be easily possible to have an entire PVP group with 5k HAMs.
It's always nice to have high end kit as a reward, but when they unbalance the game to the extent of almost doubling somebodies stats, then it should be seriously looked at.
CeDara wrote:
Hey just an observation, I am not trying to flame or start anything but everyone is either complaining about things that other players have earned or bought that are concidered uber... So some say Take the Uber out of the game... I see this leading to one direction...
Everyone when maxed out makes X amount of damage, Everyone has same armor stats, everyone goes out and quests for a crackerjack prize that does squat...
If you nerf all the uber items because someone can go out and buy a ton of them up what does that leave for content... Rich people are going to buy anything up that is good.... so what are you going to do take all the good stuff out of the game....(By the way those rich people Made there money the same way anyone else can)
So then whats left... oh yea Player vs Player..... Ok I shoot you for 1800 Damage... You shoot me for 1800 damage.... ect ect... then the results of the battle end up being determined by race....And all of the sudden you have people saying make all the races equal in stats....
End result... Everyone has same health same items same stats, does same damage, and there is no point to the game what so ever... Talk about attack of the Clones
No matter what your enemies have for buffs/skill upgrades/FS Powers or anything else for that matter... Nothing beats player skill... If you know that person is mega tough.. bring a friend or 2...
Nuf Said
Ce'Dara
Outstanding! Logic and truthareso very rarein these forums. Nicely said.
This isnt about your right to be uber. The logic of .. "hey everything else got nerfed. so why not let us have something that still makes us overpowered" doesn't fly. If everything else got nerfed then logic would dictate that thesewill be too (beacuse it only makes sense).
CeDara wrote:
Hey just an observation, I am not trying to flame or start anything but everyone is either complaining about things that other players have earned or bought that are concidered uber... So some say Take the Uber out of the game... I see this leading to one direction...
Everyone when maxed out makes X amount of damage, Everyone has same armor stats, everyone goes out and quests for a crackerjack prize that does squat...
If you nerf all the uber items because someone can go out and buy a ton of them up what does that leave for content... Rich people are going to buy anything up that is good.... so what are you going to do take all the good stuff out of the game....(By the way those rich people Made there money the same way anyone else can)
So then whats left... oh yea Player vs Player..... Ok I shoot you for 1800 Damage... You shoot me for 1800 damage.... ect ect... then the results of the battle end up being determined by race....And all of the sudden you have people saying make all the races equal in stats....
End result... Everyone has same health same items same stats, does same damage, and there is no point to the game what so ever... Talk about attack of the Clones
No matter what your enemies have for buffs/skill upgrades/FS Powers or anything else for that matter... Nothing beats player skill... If you know that person is mega tough.. bring a friend or 2...
Nuf Said
Ce'Dara
"newcomer" pwns
If you feel you must lobby for change, lobby for one that doesn't hurt the average joe. Making these non-tradeable, one per player, would solve most complaints I've seen. Lowering the potency will just lead to the rich people walking around with a static 500 health buff.
Just for the record, I do not own one of these, but look forward to the day I might get one. The way you guys are going, there will be nothing to look forward to.
EggShenn wrote:
Should be +200 bonus, not +2000.
10% of the original value seems a little extreme to me, unless they were to make the old mind buff crystal useful. Perhaps make that into a health crystal aswell that buffs for 500-1000 and put the original health crystals buff value to 250-750. Either that or give them the same buff values (500-1000), but different duration timers. For example one could last for 2 hours while the other would last for 4 hours and both would take 3 days to recharge and they couldpossibly stack somehow, although i imagine not many would favour them being stackable.
As another poster said the mind crystalwas certainly the hardest item to get from the village. Seems a shame to leave it useless, especially if the nerf does come to the health crystal.
So basically i say make the mind crystal a health crystal aswell, but give it better stats than the original health crystal once the nerf comes.
SidlandianTrufor wrote:
I just find this thread.... REDICULOUS.... Nerf this nerf that because he has what I have not or more of it....boo hoo
The people that are writing this game or developing spend more time NERFING it than CORRECTING the BUGS because people like the guy who started this thread and support his NERFING vendetta spend more time whining about haves and have nots rather than focussing the efforts and activists stance on fixing the BUGS that are RAMPANT out there. Odds on probablyevery third or fourth mission out there is bugged. PVE is royally lacking etc etc Mounts and vehicles not working properly, system crashes, BUGGED MISSIONS.... hey did I mention BUGGED MISSIONS.......
Why not simply limit certain items to be NON tradeable OR playerslimited to a certain number of HIGH END items.. stop whining NERF NERF NERF....
FORCE BIO LINKING on all Specialty (OR UBER to use a worn out abused adjective) on Weapons, Armours, Loot,Crystals, Pearls Vehicles.......
BOTTOM LINE THIS WHOLE FRIGGIN CU is WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.... I suppot the idealogy of CU and the game was in need of a fusion of newer approaches to compete in the market place etc etc BUT DAMMITIT IS NOT READY!
Not a question of whether one can cope and survive etc etc etc BLA BLA BLA in this CU anyone with tenacity and effort could survive on the streets if they were forced to live there... Black and White CU is NOT READY!
Maybe what SOE should have done or do .... lol indirectly did in someways ..... SIMPLY BANTHE OLDER PLAYERS AND START A COMPLETELY NEW GAME targeted at EQIQs....... IN WITH THE NEW! S c r e w the past.......
These days you have all these so called Truly Experienced players turning on each other because CU is so NOT READY! We're all upset and pissed off whether we show it or deal with it on forums or not! The problem is the anger is directed at the players that bear arms with you in the game we all supposedly love?!
If you want to give SOE and the Devs some real FRUITFUL advice tell them to SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN until it is ALL balanced and neat and tidy!
Don't go drumming up rediculous complaints like this....."Health Crystals need to be Nerfed!" Holy RIP! THERE ARE A BILLION things that need fixing before that.... WOW?!
I support a CU that FIXES things BEFORE THEY NERF THEM!
amen to that,
There are so many small bugs in this game. i see them fixing stupid crap that can wait and leaving things like quests, missions, and all kinds of stuff that should be done first. i really enjoy this CU, it will balance it out when they get everything done in it, but with everyone crying nerf this nerf that, they will never get to that cuz they will be nerfing everything and not fixing a dam thing. As for the health crystal (i do not have one) i say make it untradeable or bio link it or whatever but it should be one per toon. Plus they should make the mind crystal not a health crystal but doing something kinda like a PSG with it, it could give a bonus to armor across the board for like 2 hours or something, that way it helps everyone and doesnt over power anyone player, it would just come down to the armor you have and where you got it.
Thats just my 2 cents worth, flame or whatever i dont care.
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The issue isn't nerfing everybody down to low level, it's ensuring that the PVP side of the game isn't made impossible for anyone who doesn't have millions of credits. Ironically, the OP is probably one of the richest people on the server and is well known for buying masses of rare and high value items to resell. Yet he understand the value of having a more level and fairplaying field for PVP.
I'll try to put it in a clearer way. Imagine you enjoy a nice game of Counterstrike now and again, having a laugh with your friends and improving your skills. Now imagine you are forced to play on one server, and on that server is a player who spends all the hours god sends on playing and amassing cash. There is no more $16000 limit, and he keeps all the cash he earns when he logs out. You are now faced with the fact that there is a player who can join a game and instantly have full armour, the best sniper rifles, all the grenades, and the highest damage pistol. Would'nt be much fun to everyone else stuck in the pistol round with $800, would it?
A balance has to be found between improving your character to compete, and making youre character so overpowered that nobody else can get a look in. PVP will be reduced to everybody hacking down the 5k HAM player, taking some time to recovre, while the dead guy runs back from the cloner with 5k HAM again and again. It will imbalance PVP, and therefore imbalance the GCW, and therefore imbalance the server. I pity the FRS knights who don't have at LEAST 10 health crystals in their packs when the FRS comes back again. Because unless they have, they will never be able to progress....
Message Edited by Kev0r on 06-02-2005 12:54 PM