Items And Loot Archive
Thread: Do you think the missing loot is a BUG or a NERF?
poidogp wrote:
I love how today's patch notes doesn't address any of our concerns. They have a big thread just on the last pub's issues and stuff. Everyone says what is wrong, then they come out with a hotfix today that addresses none of those concerns. But I'm sure the hotfix will include several silent nerfs.
Lack of communications. It's disrespectful to us, the customers that have been sticking by waiting for the game to get better.
Heading to work now, I'll be backtomorrow. Hope they did something right, but don't want to get my hopes up.
Puertoriqueno wrote:
I think it was a bug that became a nerf when the devs decided they didn't like the tone of the community. Wouldn't be the first time they punished us for badgering them.
Lmao, so the nerf is a spanking? That will teach us. I guess the devs think they are the God in the Old Testiment. Giveplayers trials, they complain, kick some ass, repentance and submission, times are good again. Should I start praying to the devs? If the devs are all powerful and all good, then how come there is so much suffering in SWG? Can the devs program a rock so big they can't lift it? How many night sister elders can dance on the head of a pin?
Should I fall in line with mindless faity, or should i just go athiest and stop playing, or join another religion?
<3 Milgram
Puertoriqueno wrote:
Ow. Ok, well I meant that they are just putting it on hold, and the more we complain the farther back it goes on the list. I think they will fix it once the uproar dies down.
If that is their plan, it is seriously flawed. Can you imagine McDonalds doing something like that?
McE'Deez: "Sorry, we forgot to cook you a burger, all you get is bread and cheese. $4.65 please."
Customer: W T F? I want my hamburger to have a hamburger.
McE'Deez: Oh, thats the way your going to be hu? Joe, turn the grill off. We aren't going to start cooking burgers again untill you have calmed down and appologized for yelling at us. You should feel freeking privelaged to eat our food. So when we hand you a bun and cheese and tell you it is an excelent tasting hamburger, you just pay your money, eat your food, and keep your F*^*& comments to yourself!!!
Customer (/mood sad): You are totaly right. I should be grateful for whatever meger morsals you are willing to give me. Thank you McE'Deez for taking time out of your day to collect my money and give me a "hamburger".
McE'Deez: Ahhh, thats OK. We will figure out how to turn the grill back on in a day or two. In the mean time, enjoy the bun and cheese 
.
Now that is a healthy Service Provider/Customer Relationship.
Milgram wrote:
If that is their plan, it is seriously flawed. Can you imagine McDonalds doing something like that?
McE'Deez: "Sorry, we forgot to cook you a burger, all you get is bread and cheese. $4.65 please."
Customer: W T F? I want my hamburger to have a hamburger.
McE'Deez: Oh, thats the way your going to be hu? Joe, turn the grill off. We aren't going to start cooking burgers again untill you have calmed down and appologized for yelling at us. You should feel freeking privelaged to eat our food. So when we hand you a bun and cheese and tell you it is an excelent tasting hamburger, you just pay your money, eat your food, and keep your F*^*& comments to yourself!!!
Customer (/mood sad): You are totaly right. I should be grateful for whatever meger morsals you are willing to give me. Thank you McE'Deez for taking time out of your day to collect my money and give me a "hamburger".
McE'Deez: Ahhh, thats OK. We will figure out how to turn the grill back on in a day or two. In the mean time, enjoy the bun and cheese
Now that is a healthy Service Provider/Customer Relationship.
Ahahahaha! Yup that about says it all!
Message Edited by BobaFettish on 03-04-2005 02:12 AM
Message Edited by BobaFettish on 03-04-2005 02:13 AM
HardwiredXMan wrote:
I don't think it was a nerf.....probably a random /bug due to changing the pearl drops on juvi krayts. When they put that patch live, that's when loot started being bugged. So if that's the case then it will take a little time for them to find out how it actually broke and then fix it....so no patch to fix it right away....give them time.
on the other hand, if there is no word whether it's a bug or intended fix by tuesday, then I guess we can assume it was a nerf.....
However, my reason for thinking it's a bug is because they fixed loot to drop more frequently and a wider variety not long ago and other than crystal and pearl drops being as frequent as they were (which brought prices down on them...not many pearl auctions in that time was there), the loot drops were not out of hand.....but for them to stealth neft loot to the point it is now, it just doesn't make any kind of sense. A loot nerf to me would be seeing less high end loot but still getting any kind of loot every 3 or 4 kills.....but when you kill 15 nightsisters in a row and get nothing but credits (not even a cdef pistol), then that says bug to me, not nerf.....if that's a nerf, then devs have some seriously flawed thinking processes.....cause that doesn't give anyone the incentive to go out and loot anything at all....overall, low drop rates is bad for the game and ultimately customers patience.
Several questions for you. First: Have you ever killed 15 night sisters? Second: Have you ever looted a cdef pistol off one?
Third: Do the devs destroy all record of their code before a patch? Can a DevDave say, "hmmm, loot is broken. I sure know what was changed between 13.0 and 13.1. Oh well, i guess if i have 3 million lines of code to look through, i better get started." No, of course not. I am sure the code for SWG is indeed very long. However, if there is a problem with loot now, when there wasn't before, might it possibly be due to whatthey just changed? Does DevDave say, "Hmmmm, loot is broken, and we changed lines 12000435-440 between 13.0 and 13.1. Well, i guess i'll look at line 397220. Thats where the animation for super battle droids is stored.This part hasn't been toutched for months, ibet the problem is in here."
There is absolutely no way the bug can be that deep rooted. I can testify to the fact that night sisters are droping crappy stuff. Woot, crapy lances and eggs. Storm troopers, sith thugs and rebels are still droping +10 attatchments. Nyax still drops grenades and Light Lightning Cannons. Krayts drop scales, tissues and segments. How is it that only good loot gets nerfed?