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Thread: A Non-Jedi's Guide to Crystals and Pearls From the Getting to the Selling
HardwiredXMan wrote:
Milgram wrote:
Once a Jedi gets the roundy, he or she can tune it. Tuning is a one time event and is totaly random. It is like slicing (accept with less exploits). The only thing is,once a roundy is tuned, it can ONLY BE USED BY THE JEDI THAT TUNED IT. So if aJedi tells youhehaschangedhis mind about buying the roundy, and would like to give it back for a refund, refuse. The crystal is basically a house decoration atthis point. Ifhe complains about getting bad tunes and demands some money back, tellhim to go read the smuggler's forums, and he can see some real bad luck.
First of all, I don't agree with anyone asking for money back for something when it doesn't turn out like they want. It's a risk you take with everything you buy regardless of what it is. However, I also don't agree with the above highlighted statement. It serves no real purpose but to agitate the jedi and thus hurting your reputation with them. I'm not saying that you should give them money back at all....no don't do that....but I am saying that you can politely tell them before the sell that regardless of how it tunes, there is no refund and that they are taking a risk with the amount they are paying for the crystal/pearl. Nothing more needs to be discussed then.
The main reason I don't agree with telling them to go look at the smuggler forums is that tuning crystals and slicing don't compare in risk or cost at all. you go get a weapon or suit of armor sliced and pay between 3k - 10k depending on the smuggler. EVen if you get a whole suit of armor sliced, you never spend more than 100k unless you keep buying armor and getting it sliced looking for a particular slice.
Tuning crystals/pearls is completely different.....the process is the same but the cost is very different. You buy a crystal for a few million and get a bad tune.....that is not bad luck compared to slicing as a smuggler that's down right ridiculous.....5k for a speed slice on a krayt weapon is disappointing or was back in the days(I know, I just got a 30% speed slice on a krayt dxr6 rifle 2 days ago and I'm a speed capped rifleman...I paid 3k per 10% and so ended up paying 9k for the slice)....but with thespawn rate of krayts and the amount of tissues you can get in a buff session completely takes the dagger out of your chest from getting a bad slice on a krayt weapon. When you have enought tissues to just go make another one, it lessons the blow....especially because tissues are so easy to get now (just go hunt juvi's all day and you'll get nothing but tissues and scales..they don't drop pearls anymore).
However, getting a bad tune on a premium crystal that you paid 3 million for is far worse than any kind of smuggler slice there is. You can go run 1 mission to pay for possibly 2 slices from a smuggler......it can take you days to weeks to months to make enough millions to either out bid someone for a crystal or make enough to buy one from someonedepending on how much you play the game each day.....even then, with such bad tuning process, you may need to buy 10, 20 or more crystals/pearls. Although, with the krayt spawns, it's bringing the prices down, they still are100 times higher than what it cost toslice a weapon or armor.
So making a reference to tuning crystals/pearls with that of slicing just does not do anything but agitate jedi against those non-jedi who are selling crystals and pearls and have no idea what a jedi goes through just to get a decent tune. A jedi can easily spend 50 million before they getenough crystals tunedproperly to be truely useful,they need to lower their force cost enough so that they don't run out of force in pvp and die and lose 200k or more xp.....but a bad sliced weapon or armor will not cost any player even 1% of what it cost a jedi with badly tuned crystals or pearls, nor will they suffer such a negative penalty....so it is unfair to jedi and smugglers to put them both in the same boat when talking about tuning and slicing. Yes! the process is the same, but everything else is worlds apart.
Other than this little descrepancy, you have a nice little guide for beginners though.
I actually had a jedi buyout two premium crystal auctions for 5 million (buyout, folks, buyout. He paid 5 million each because he chose to. The min bid was 500k). He tuned both, and got very bad tunes. He told me that due to the dumb tuning system, premiums don't tune very well, and asked for half his money back. I said no, and he started talking about how bad his luck sucked, and could I give him a break. No. I was very professional, and told him that it isn't fair to ask the weaponsmith for a refund because the weapon sliced bad, so it wasn't right to ask me to do the same. So, to get even, he started bidding up a 25 million credit auction I was bidding on, even though he was 5 million in debt to a friend for the crystals he had bought from me. You can deal with most jedivery professional manner. A fiew though, they will take advantage of you however they can, because George Lucas appeared to them in a dream, and told them to be the server's mostest l33test player, no matter what. Just be aware of it, and be prepared to defend yourselfas the occasion may demand.
As for my remark about going to the smuggler's forums, if you want to see bad luck, that is the place to go. When people get a string of good slices, they boast on the combat profession forums. If they get bad slices, one after another, they complain on the smuggler's forums. The Jedi forums are about 50/50, with some boasting, and others complaining. You are right,asking your money back from the smuggler is dumb. It is not what i meant. The analogy I had in mind is asking for your money back from the weaponsmith who sold you the weapon, or the guy who sold you the 150/200 acklay bones.
Mythrindir wrote:
rumours are true that they go down to 700. ive got a white from a tusken condition 714, so i imagine it goes all the way down to 700.
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