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Thread: Is using the /unstick bug to get the DJK missions a bannable offence?

Rancor418
Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:28 am
#14






Kev0r wrote:

IPlaying devil's advocate here; I am sure that the devs wouldn't sit around a table thinking "Ok, here's an idea. We set up the only quest in the game which yields a very high level mob, with great loot drops. Then we make it that the only way to complete the quest is to utilise a technical function of the game, not a gameplay function". Doesn't sound right does it? Imagine if the only way to complete Half Life was to make use of the console to lower the gravity enough to fly over an impassable wall. Again, doesn't sound likely at all.




Sounds just like SOE to me



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WookieOgre
Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:56 pm
#15






Griton wrote:


This quest has been on Dath since the birth of the prison complex, an even pre-CU it was bugged in exactly the same way, an people have been using this 'workaround' to complete this quest since its birth...


-Griton






I was not sure if this was a bug that dated as far back as you mentionedbut I knew this guy was around Pre-CURB because back in Oct of 2003 I think I remember seeing him in the Prison lol. I ignored his mission and concentrated on the missions from inside.


Glad to know this was as I figured, a bug that has been in game and no one notices until you start seeing good loot for sale. A fix should come in to help curb the amount of awesome loot people are getting but in no way is this a bannable offense or exploit to run a quest that has been around for ages.
Griton
Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:06 pm
#16


Heh, aye... It will not get anyone banned, I do however feel sorry for all the CSR tickets opened because people accidentally get stuck inside the cell with Durloc... Its the 'back fire' I mentioned before, you can /unstick IN to the cell, but you can not /unstick (or /eject) out... The only fully fuctional in game prision cell Im aware of


-Griton
DeathIage
Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:35 pm
#17






Rancor418 wrote:
Why put the field up? Would removing the NPC be a better way of fixing this?

Nevermind that would make sense.

I dont think its an exploit..




the force field is up because he's a prisoner....this is just a bug u should be able to talk to him thru hte bars but u cant so u have to use /unstick



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JimtaviusII
Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:40 pm
#18

MY only problem is that it is Imp only. Damn Imps are getting bloody rich selling them tapes on my server. If someone would just say "working as intended" that may be the only faction recruitinggimmickthat would ever turn me Imp. Yes emperor, *pats wallet*, it will be done.



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Randd
Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:08 pm
#19

Just a little history lesson. Back in the day players could heal each other through walls so the devs wanting to stop this they put a patch in. A little side effect of the patch was you could no longer speak through walls to npc(force field= wall in their programming it seems) And guess what? THey never bothered to fix the problem with the npc in the cell.




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vaterg
Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:31 pm
#20

all i know the amount of uber AA and CA popping up on the forums is a joke. How uber are they when 8 of the last 10 posts are for multiple +25 tapes



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JimtaviusII
Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:37 pm
#21

OK you win, I'll go imp so I can go get me some of those tapes too.



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FIX TAILOR!!!! STOP IGNORING CRAFTERS EVERY PUBLISH!!! 2 MORE PUBLISHES BY AUG 15? HAVE YOU FIXED BE CLOTHES? THEN YOUR WORKING ON THE WRONG THING, FIX YOUR MISTAKES BEFORE MAKING NEW ONES!!!!

Jaczon Starhunter(eclipse)-"I been pimpin', since been pimpin', since been pimpin.'"

Jacson Starhunter(eclipse)-"You took too much. You took too much too much!"

Jac Scowling(eclipse)-"You tell them I'm coming, and hell's coming with me!"


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giffordgekko
Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:07 pm
#22

i have preform the unstick in front of a csr and said helloquite clearlyand s/he didnt even mention it
ShannonKnight
Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:39 am
#23

Not being able to talk through the bars is a bug and finding a workaround is not an exploit since you aren't doing something the dev's don't want you to.


Some months ago you could talk through the bars which changed when the introduced the line of sight patch which prevented you from healing/shooting through walls.
Since then you couldn't talk through the bars either.

I bugged this back then several times though it never got fixed nor recognized.

If you do the /unstick you do it on your own risk but I really doubt that it is a bannable offense.
The only thing that might (MIGHT) be bannable is to repeatly redo the quest, although like stated already from a poster here, the retaking of a mission is a valid option and we're even often told to do it to fix a broken quest.



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cahn-a-licious
Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:23 am
#24

and yet not one response from someone that matters....just the trite rants of people either unable to kill the said npc's or jealous they are not the only ones that know how to do this.



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ShannonKnight
Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:55 am
#25

I really doubt that we will get any response from a DEV, here and unless it is posted here that it is an exploit or such I won't stop doing it either.

Sure if a CSR tells me to stop I would too ;-) maybe

Oh btw if someone still has trouble doing this mission just send me a pm.



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"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life."


"I don't suffer from insanity, I am enjoying it."


SmugglerLove
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:17 am
#26


I just wanted to toss in some background on the Imp Prison missions for those who do not know or remember. This quest has been full of bugs ever since my first character did it back in October 2003. In those dayseveryone was trying to figure out how to unlock Jedi and it was rumored thatthis quest might be one of the requirements since it involved killing a DJK and DJM. In any event, back thenone of the biggestbugs with this quest wasMozu being completely invisible. That's right. You could not even see the NPC you had to talk to and thus had no way to converse with him to accept his missions. The only workaround we were ever able to find wastostand by the fence near the back leftbuilding and use the/conv mozu command. It was quite frustrating but player's were able to complete the quest using this workaround and it was never once labeled an exploit.


As far as the guy in the cell, some seem to think that the devs added theforcefield bars to prevent players from doing this quest. Just so you know, those bars haveALWAYS been there, or at least they havebeen there since I did the quest back in2003. Iknow quite a few playerswho also did this quest between Octoberand December 2003 and none of them ever had a problem talking to him through the forcefield. The issue with him not talking to you because he was behind theforcefielddid not occur until the devs introduced the recent LOS changes. That said, using /unstick to continue on with this quest is just another workaround that players have had tocome up with for a quest that has been plagued with bugs for almost 2 years.

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