Image Designer Archive

Ki'lari Kess
Don't let the Master Image Designer tag fool you.
The only constant is change.

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BlueMilk wrote:
I realized the answer to my question shortly after I posted. In the case of hairstyles, tatoos, and the like, the slider resizing would not be a problem. The changes are discrete, finite. You eiter have one tattoo or the next.

In the case of facial and body structure, however, the slider changes are continuous and indistinct- you're adjusting values along an indiscrete continuum, not chosing separate options from a list. So in this case, a single click adjusts the value by a certain amount. If the slider increments are different, a single click adjusts by a different value.

You could still work it out, though. Use the character creation interface as the standard and describe the values as percentages. So if the mouth width slider has 10 clicks in the creation interface, you know that a single click is 10%. As an ID, you would always adjust your slider window to the same size, and determine where along your slider the different percentage values fall. For instance, you always open your window so that the mouth size slider has 20 clicks. So you'd know that a mouth width of 10% is two clicks.

It sounds like a lot of work, but as long as you know the # of increments in the creation interface, you could still work it out pretty quickly on the fly. If your client wanted a value of 25%, it would be very easy to see where 50% is on your slider, and then halve that to get to 25%.

Message Edited by BlueMilk on 06-06-2004 06:57 PM

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Knowing the number of incrementsis the problem. We can get approximatepercentages based on a quick examination in the ID screen using methods similar to what you described. But your original question was how to create an "exact copy" fromone serverto another. There are a couple of ways to achieve this that I have used on my 11 sets of twin characters. This may seem relatively easy for you & others here also, but I figured I'd post it anyway in case anyone finds it useful.

Obviously the first methodwould requirea playerto have remembered to write down exactly how many blocks/clicksthey used when creating their first char, & as long as they're using the same monitor & screen resolution,they can use thosefigures in making the new one. This would of course also only work ifthere haven'tbeen any body or face sizing modications onthe originalchar after it joined it's server.

If howeverthey have no clue to the exact settingsthey used, as most players wouldn't, or have had face or body sizing modifications, thenthey need to get ID's involved on both servers. Without numbers attached to the sliders it will still be a bittime consumingto make exact copies, but not impossible.

First of all you're going to have to have the ID's not count the blocks or increments seen on the sliders because they are unreliable as a measuring tool due to the following reasons:

1. The character creation screen & the UI screen in-game are not exact copies of each other & the number of blocks/increments seen are not necessarily the same.

2. The resolution used or the resizing of the UI byan IDmay even further affect the variation in the number of blocks/increments seen in the sliders.

But, the actual number of total mouseclicks from zero to max on the sliders is still the same in the ingame UI regardless of the screen size or resolution(& is what the lost slider numbers were based on btw), so what the ID's need to do is count total mouseclicks & ignore counting the visible blocks/increments they see on the screen for making their settings. Here's what each ID has to do:

First ID:

This ID is the one that willexamine the existing settings, convert these settings to total mouseclick counts, finalize thesetting to the original char to make sure the counts are dead on, & give you the recorded information to give to thesecond ID on the new server, so tip well, hehe. His or her steps are:

1. Establish the current settings by counting & recording how many blocks are seen in the slider, & then by counting & recording how many additional mouseclicks it takes tomove the block/increment countup or downby "one". NowthisID should be able to figure out how many blocks & mouseclicks it takes to get to your current setting according to his or her UI setup.

3. Convert the current block/increment count&the plus or minus mouseclick count of the original settings into a"total mouseclick count" by setting the slider to zero & clicking (count all clicks plus or minus) until you reach the exact original setting. Now the ID should have the exact number of clicks it takes from zero to get youroriginal setting.

4. Repeat & record mouseclick totals for each slider that is used for face& body sizing.

5. Accept these final settings to ensure the settings are dead on.

Now you're off to see the second ID with your new char & the figures given from the first ID.

Second ID:

1. Use the given mouseclick totals & start from zero adding in the exact number of total mouseclicks for each face & body size modification as needed.

Obviously any face or body sliders thatwere originallycompletely maxed or at zero will not require this, but anything in between willrequire this process to get exact copies.

Now people can see why having the numbers attached to each slider was so useful.