Image Designer Archive

I'm not an image designer, but I get my appearance changed when I can.

I think it would be interesting if an image designer could give faction combatants a TEF by changing their appearance. Think about it. If you're fighting someone in and about the city (or are on the run), what better way to avoid the enemy than to change your appearance?

Just a thought!

Juzza

Flurry Server

Actually, the idea of being able to disguise someone has come up before. No one's said anything about it too recently, so I'll take the opportunity to once again put in my vote for such an addition.

Lol, here i thought i had that brilliant idea the other day while making some food, i was like "oh yeah, wait til the public hears THIS idea!!"

Hehehe, you beat me to it (obviously this idea has come up already as well) I think it would be a great idea and would increase the need of other classes etc, great idea!!

I think that's just a way for IDs to pick up a TEF for aiding and abetting the enemy. I don't want to get shot styling hair. It's hard enough being neutral, not being able to heal anyone, not being able to trade. Don't make me join a faction so I can style hair!

Don't think for a minute that the PvP people would let us get away without a TEF for giving a clear advantage to a PvP enemy! And for the large number of us who are neutral, we don't want to get shot (or lose customers) because the TEF is too much of a hassle for you. The TEF is your problem. Don't pass it to me.

The only combat advantage I think IDs should get is Alertness +25.

many image designers PvP with their non-entertainer skill points and wouldn't mind a TEF (was the original suggestion to HIDE or remove a TEF by making the target look like someone else?).

I think that at minimum, an image designer should be able to mess with the appearance of an incapped player before DBing them. not for faction points, just for spite and to let them know they were had by an ARTIST!

If you were able to change the appearance of an Incapped person it would really upset that person but would bring great business potential to ID's.

You say "many image designers PvP" with 92 points tied up in non-lethal combat skills? I doubt it. It's probably the same as the number of Master Dancers (who spend 106 points on non-combat). You'll notice that your response on the Image Designer Forum hasn't been exactly glowing. The IDs aren't leaping forward to say, Gee, get shot, what a great idea.

Some do. I know a few IDs who are factioned. I don't know many who rush out into the regular raids on faction towns, though. I know... mmm... one.

Your idea isn't exactly new to this forum, either. Count the 3000 threads in our forum and check the number of them that ask for IDs to have the ability to remove TEFs. Then count the number of those threads started by IDs. Tell me if you consider that overwhelming support for your idea.

And giving someone a makeover while he's incap'd provides business for IDs? No, that's extortion. Here, I'll make you short and fat and balding and you pay me 60,000 credits to fix you. Make that 100,000 credits and be my slave for a day. Legitimate business or crime syndicate? You be the judge.

Nope, sorry. This Image Designer doesn't want any part of your PvP battle except for one possible thing: disguise kits. If we could manufacture a disguise kit and sell it over a bazaar, we wouldn't get TEFd for doing our job, and you'd have some way to bypass the dreaded TEF. The extent of my combat skills is pistol specialist and an FWG5. There's no way I'd stand a chance in PvP and on the basis of my military incompetence I don't want to be dragged into your war. I don't want to be TEFd or shot while trying to give you a wartime benefit. What's my benefit? I get shot and cloned, you get to run around in safety. For what? So you can stiff me on the tip? Um, no thanks.

I'm also a doctor, and no, I won't heal your combat medic mind poison for the same reason.

is it extortion to make someone you fought fat? well, only if it's extortion to make someone you fought have WOUNDS. it's leaving you with some "damage" that can only be repaired by someone with the proper skills. if it's too terrifying a concept, perhaps limit aggressive image design to merely the novice entertainer modifications. then they could be REPAIRED by a novice entertainer.

you don't have to be a MASTER ID to be an ID. however, you could still master image design and also master a good PvP combat profession such as teras kasi.

if there is a PvP-useful skill for ID, a designer who doesn't PvP doesn't have to use it and thus doesn't have to be shot for doing it. Similarly, a master commando who doesn't PvP doesn't have to be shot for using his flamethrower.

there really isn't any reason to put down image designers who want to PvP, or assume image designers are incapable of it.

if others want to participate in the civil war, FishWan, please don't assume it would affect those who don't want to. if there have been many threads on the topic, perhaps it's because it's a popular one.

Um, yes, it's extortion.

Damage = goes away over time. Skill points to fix = 0.

Wounds = healable by anyone with Novice Medic and no woundpacks. Skill points to fix = 15. Wounds will also go away by themselves if you sit in a hospital. Skill points to fix = 0.

Fire = temporary, goes away. Skill points to make it go away = 0. Produces Wounds, see above.

Poison = temporary, goes away. Skill points to make it go away = 0.

Disease = temporary, goes away. Skill points to make it go away = 0. Produces Wounds, see above.

Bleed = temporary, goes away. Skill points to make it go away = 0. May produce Wounds, see above.

Blind, Dizzy, Stun, Intimidate = temporary, goes away. Skill points to make it go away = 0.

Weight = permanent.Changeable only by elite-class Novice ID with at least two boxes in Body Modifications. Skill points to makeit go away= minimum of 44 (15 for Novice Entertainer, 14 points for ID line, 6 for Novice ID,9 for first two boxes in Body Mod). That's just weight. If you changed someone's master-level hairstyle into a newbie style (like the combover balding one) then to fix it back it's 48 points. If you change someone's height, weight, and hair that's 60 points. If you changed someone's skin color, that's 92 points to return him to normal.

Do you really not see the difference? Wounds and damage will heal automatically over time without the intervention of another player. Image Design doesn't revert and fixing it requires the intervention of another Image Designer.

That's all beside the point. The whole idea of making IDs take away TEFs is ludicrous anyway. The idea behind the TEF, and follow along here with your finger, if you attack orkill someone, or assist someone who is attacking or killing,you can't hide from the consequences. The PvP community asked for the TEF so you couldnotgo Overt, commit atrocities in another city, then flip on the Covert switch and be immuneto the inevitable retaliation. The TEF is there to make sure you can't hide from the consequences of your actions. The developers will never implement a system that will allow players toturn off their TEF at will. By asking for this feature to be available in the game, you're obviously asking to do just this, for exactly the reasons the PvPers don't want you to.

No thanks.