Image Designer Archive
Thread: Where Image Design and the GCW can stand
I was wondering if it was already in the following was in the game or not.
Can image designers rid players of their TEF (temporary enemy flag). If this isn't in the game, it totally should be. I also think with the up coming death penalties people would much rather tip an image designer to spend X amount of time getting worked on rather than dying to rid themselves of a TEF. Some players may still want to sit and wait for 20 minutes for their TEF to wear off.. not this one.
your thoughts?
Not to be rude to you,,but that possibility is so far down the list ,,we didnt even get a pass in the latest development post on suggestions that have been made months ago,,
Image Design might actually be on the bottom of the list,,
The idea of IDs being able to rid a player of his TEF comes up on our board about once every two or three weeks. I've been waiting for you to post this suggestion, actually. 
The TEF was put into the game so you can't commit war atrocities and then click 'covert.' Ha ha, I'm covert now, you can't touch me, nyah, nyah, etc. Then click 'overt' and run up and shoot someone, click 'covert' again and laugh. Ha ha, I pwnd j00, now I'm covert, ha ha, ad nauseum.
During development, the PvPers very vocally demanded that this kind of childish griefing and hiding behind covert status was not allowed. The TEF was invented.
So my question for you (and everyone else) is this: although it's possible to give IDs this skill, what's wrong with a TEF? What's so horrible about it that you want to avoid having one? Why is a TEF so unfair -- allowing your victims their just revenge -- why is a TEF so unfair that you have to hide from it? And who do you think will be happy about being shot only to find that you'recowering behind a hairstylist?
Escia
I agree with FishWan. The TEF is there for a reason, and implementing an option to do away with it would make griefing very easy. Maybe they could let image designers cover up NPC faction somehow though, that would be extremely handy for some quests, and I can't think of any way in which this would be insanely unbalancing. Just as example, my creature handler has -5000 Borvo faction. Which means I am unable to do the Borvo quests, because every time I am given a message, the Borvo toons at the location will aggro me. Now, if an IDer could temporarily adjust my faction to 0, I could do the quests. I'd still be penalized for the faction messing cause I'd likelylose opposing faction (the faction I've worked up, think Trade Federation and something else for Borvo faction) every time I'm killing some mob for a Borvo quest.
Obviously though, this wouldn't be too powerful for us IDers either, as no one would bother with getting a faction disabled unless they want to run quests.
FishWan wrote:
The idea of IDs being able to rid a player of his TEF comes up on our board about once every two or three weeks. I've been waiting for you to post this suggestion, actually.
The TEF was put into the game so you can't commit war atrocities and then click 'covert.' Ha ha, I'm covert now, you can't touch me, nyah, nyah, etc. Then click 'overt' and run up and shoot someone, click 'covert' again and laugh. Ha ha, I pwnd j00, now I'm covert, ha ha, ad nauseum.
During development, the PvPers very vocally demanded that this kind of childish griefing and hiding behind covert status was not allowed. The TEF was invented.
So my question for you (and everyone else) is this: although it's possible to give IDs this skill, what's wrong with a TEF? What's so horrible about it that you want to avoid having one? Why is a TEF so unfair -- allowing your victims their just revenge -- why is a TEF so unfair that you have to hide from it? And who do you think will be happy about being shot only to find that you'recowering behind a hairstylist?
Escia
Good points, and good questions. If you re-read my post I think you will notice I also indicated that there would be a set time for the image designer to complete the task. I think I indicated that by variable "X" So it isn't really a click of a button 
. Just a lower time sink if you are wanting to travel through star ports and such. And no, it will not promote griefing. Rather profession dependency.
TEF is a great system and I have no beef with it at all. I just thought Image designers can ease the time sink while working on a person over X time.
Make sense now?
I'm really not too into the idea of affecting TEF's. There is one idea I've heard before that I thought was a pretty good way to involve ID's in the GCW. (I'm using way too many acronyms in this post) If going from overt status to covert required getting a certain amount changed by an ID, then I think that would be a good way to get us involved without screwing too much with the actual combat systems.
Accordingly..the ID would be TEF'd by this heroic action..so basically it would be a sacrifice move to protect an important operative.
Csin wrote:
Accordingly..the ID would be TEF'd by this heroic action..so basically it would be a sacrifice move to protect an important operative.
Ah, I begin to see the light. You want someone to take a bullet for you.
You want someone to face the firing squad on your tail while you run away laughing, free from facing the responsibility of the heinous war crimes you've committed.
Um, that doesn't sound heroic to me, it sounds, um, STUPID? What makes you think, Csin, that peoplechose the Image Design profession so we could die for your cause? People have chosen to play an ID because it is a) safe, b) social, c) creative, d) non-confrontational, and/or e) friendly.
And if we get a TEF for getting rid of your own TEF, that means your hairdresser has to declare a faction. How stupid is that? "It would be unwise to do this client's lipstick." Do you think with as few Image Designers as there are in the game that we're itching to declare factions and cut our business in half just so we can die for you? What's in it for us, huh?
Obviously, Csin, you haven't thought this out very well from the ID's standpoint. I have. There's nothing in this proposition for an Image Designer, just for you. So nothanks.
Your homework for the day is to comb through the ID boards and count how many times an Image Designer has proposed the stupid TEF idea. Off the cuff, I'd guess IDs had proposed roundabout, oh, none of the time.
Escia