Image Designer Archive

I don't want ID to be more relevant. By adding faction functions or buff yes we would increase customer base but the number of IDers would also increase. I think it would be a net loss.

I don't mind the idea of affecting NPC factional standing with ID—but to be fair for as much negative faction as you'd lose, you's also have to lose positive faction. I do not, howver, want to see ID given a more "relevant" role in the GCW. At least, not with any of the suggestions I've seen. Most, if not all, GCW-related actions incur a TEF. Many, if not most, IDs are sorely lacking in combat skills. So now I've just made you covert, but I've got a TEF and a dozen imps on my butt—real nice. No thank you.

How do you figure that? Some overt strolls in and has tim eto sit there for you while you ID him might be a hint that the coast is clear. TEF's don't last very long you know.

That being said, it' sno skin off my teethc if IDs don't wanna be more relevant, I'm not one and don't wanna be one. Just had a thought, but it is a surprise to me to hear this.

Two things:

1. I hate when I mix metaphors. I meant it's no skin off my NOSE, not teeth.

2. I understand your preference to stay out of the line of fire, but I don't think it should be the case. I think anyone who gets involved in the GCW should besubject to a TEF even if they are defenseless image designers. I don't think it would be all that bad though, because like I said before, theclient would know if there are any hostiles around and you could refuse to help overts unless there were others there to protect you the client would usually be one). You could even pick up a bit of combat skills for self defense if you wanted (granted it doesn't sound like you do, but it may appeal to others).

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Victorine wrote:

2. I understand your preference to stay out of the line of fire, but I don't think it should be the case. I think anyone who gets involved in the GCW should besubject to a TEF even if they are defenseless image designers. I don't think it would be all that bad though, because like I said before, theclient would know if there are any hostiles around and you could refuse to help overts unless there were others there to protect you the client would usually be one). You could even pick up a bit of combat skills for self defense if you wanted (granted it doesn't sound like you do, but it may appeal to others).

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I respectfully disagree. No profession is currently forced into PvP, if this idea were to happen (and it certainly doesn't look like it will), you are not forced into PvP any more than any other profession. You are not obligated to help anyone who is overt. The only way to just ify your philosophy is to remove TEFs altogether, because if you feel that way, then it should apply to all professions. There are many medics and doctors who politely decline to help overts, for example.

That being said, I completely respect and understand your position on not wanting this to happen, I just think your comment about being forced into PvP is off base.

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Victorine wrote:

I respectfully disagree. No profession is currently forced into PvP, if this idea were to happen (and it certainly doesn't look like it will), you are not forced into PvP any more than any other profession. You are not obligated to help anyone who is overt. The only way to just ify your philosophy is to remove TEFs altogether, because if you feel that way, then it should apply to all professions. There are many medics and doctors who politely decline to help overts, for example.

That being said, I completely respect and understand your position on not wanting this to happen, I just think your comment about being forced into PvP is off base.

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Hi again Victorine. There is a difference of opinion among IDs about new content related to the GCW [TEF removal, disguises et cetera]. Some IDs like the sound of those things, others [including me] don't. I won't speak for others but one of the things I like best about my ID is that the role is aesthetic and not 'functional'.

I really enjoy the fact that ID isn't for tanking/crowd control/healing/rezzing/buffing and so on. Bringing ID into the GCW would make it less fun for me. I'd love to see us be able to do more things but I don't really want those things to be functional tools for pixel killers.

Perfectly reasonable position ju.

Victorine, you stated that even if ID's become the method to covert, that we need notbe drawn into danger because all we have to do is refuse to help. Which is true.

But It's my experience that there are just as many whining, complaining twelve-year-olds in PvP as there are mature, respectable players. By making the ID the method of Covertness, you subject those of us who comply with a dangerous and life-threatening TEF status, and those of us who don't comly to the whines, /tells, and general harrassment of those immature players who already bother us enough by DEMANDING we ID them right then and there when they want us to. And honestly, I'd rather the TEF and eventual death over the hell that is a '1337ist'. (Afterall, what's some punk gonna get for DB'ing a Master ID who isn't even aligned? perverse pleasure, if that.)