Image Designer Archive
Thread: Overt to Covert, good or bad idea.
I personally do not like the idea. For one, if the Image Designer the player is seeking is unavailable, or unwilling, to give them covert status, it could lead to serious griefing of the ID. People do NOT like to die, especially when another player could have prevented it. For another, it will unwillingly involve a lot of ID's in the GCW when I know many of them play neutral characters and have no interest in being involved in the war.
Cons:
3. Image designer is an artistic and social profession, and TEF removalis notartisticnor social.
Message Edited by Gyopi on 03-08-2004 02:01 PM
Gyopi wrote:
Its a bad idea. First of all the developers would never go for this idea anyway. There is a reason why it takes an hour to go covert. Its not just to be annoying. There is serious potential for griefing if you can go covert quickly. Image someone a master doctor with an image designer along with them going into the cantina of a stronghold of the opposite faction, diseasing everyone and then instantly going covert so they can sit there and mock everyone. It would make it almost impossible for people to take a base if the defenders could change between overt and covert at will (or so I imagine. I have never raided a base). Anyway, aside from the fact that this is completely different from the playstyle that most of us like, it would hurt the balance of the game.
Right now it's impossible for Imperials to take a Rebel base anyway, because there's bug with Rebel player bases that allows them to reset the countdown terminal. 
But that's neither here nor there. You brought up some EXCELLENT points. Yeah... this will never happen.
hmm alot of people seem to be looking at this idea as removeing TEF's and while agree that that shouldnt happen I dont see why the idea in the title (I know the body says TEF) couldnt be done. Changeing an over to a covert is a compleatly different beast compaired to instant removeing a TEF. With the proper balances in it to prevent the griefing options I could see it working. how bout this for the idea
1 ID can change an overt to covert status imidatly (you look different and the enemy cant recognize you)
2when the change happens both players recive a TEF to the enemy faction of the now covert player (for covert they saw an overt walk in and a different person walk out so anybody nearby suspects you, for the ID they know an overt went to you and then disapeard you are suspect just like your costomer) Neutral ID's would be alowed to make the change but they would also recieve the TEF for engageing in an activity related to the GCW.
3 ID can NOT remove a TEF. (well I guess they could try just like the overt options but both get TEF'd agian anyway)
looks like that would alow for the option while removeing the major concerns. you can just instant vanish because your still attackable as a TEF for the nest 5 minutes and there is some risk to the ID for suplying a GCW related service. The option for neutrals to participate is left in so you can play the plastic sergeon that will change someones identity for a price no mater who they are although its still risky. Could make it an ability at master ID, sure someone could master the prof in less than an hour but they still have to take the points out of something else first wich I can garentee will take longer than an hour to get back.
Merendel wrote:
2when the change happens both players recive a TEF to the enemy faction of the now covert player (for covert they saw an overt walk in and a different person walk out so anybody nearby suspects you, for the ID they know an overt went to you and then disapeard you are suspect just like your costomer) Neutral ID's would be alowed to make the change but they would also recieve the TEF for engageing in an activity related to the GCW.
Umm...... no. This would do nothing for the Image Designer community as most Image Designers I know are non-combat people. You think I would make someone overt so i can get shot at/punched by the people chasing him? No I wouldnt.
The only people that would benefit from this would be people who would go out and master ID as fast as they could to do just this very thing. While i dont fight at all in the GCW, I think that if you go Overt you should play the game as its meant to be played and deal with being Overt.
/agree Marinha
There are plenty of ID's that aren't involved in the GCW and want to keep it that way. I'm sure not going to Covert someone and get a TEF, because I've PvPed enough to know that overts will shoot at anything they can target. And as an entertainer, I have practically zero combat skills. So... no, thank you. 