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Thread: A big thank you to the dev team

kilokat
Sat May 15, 2004 6:38 am
#1
/sarcastic off


As a hologrinder ( I know that I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I freely admit I WANNA BE A JEDI!!!) and as a functioning member of the Gorath economy (I buy a lot of stuff, I provide services gathering creature resources, adn I've even taken a few grinding breaks to bea smuggler and a DE for a while) I gotta say that this new ID system just confounds me. The game is fun, and I love it, but anyone and I mean anyone would have to agree with me that this universe is litterally bursting with timesinks. Why oh why would they add yet another one? I must admit that I was planning on blowing through ID and dropping it, but now I'm barely gonna be able to muster up the strenght to get through entertainer, forget mastering ID. If that happens to be my silent, oh well, I'm going back to master sword/master rifle, and you better bet that I'm gonna take out every little last bit of aggression I can every stinking krayt I can find. What really gets me about the timer is what the heck were they thinking? I can understand how the former 2 hour from nothing to master grind was a little short, but why not just nerf the xp a little?


Before I dig myself any deeper, let me say that I think that ID was due for some nice changes. I like the new colors very much (can't wait to get my whole wookiee body blue and red if I can) and I think that the ID stat migration was a stroke of genius. I also think that the pricing thingy in the window was a nifty trick. Anyway, basically, I'm just another angry gamer who wishes that the devs weren't quite so nerf-frenzied.


In my humble opinion I believe that the timer should be killed completely, except on stat migration. I also think that a little bit of nerfage on the xp would be in order to keep being a master ID a little more elite. With that said, I think that the timer is gonna kill the profession almost entirely. I'm sure that a number of master ID's from pre patch will wanna move on to other stuff, and with the upcoming changes to the jedi system most ppl will just blow off ID entirely, like me. This means that basically we'll have a very very few remaining MID's from before the update ( and don't try to fool anyone that you're hardcore guys, cause you didn't put in the 12 straight days of grinding to get, and if you did, strike my last and kudos, you're a lot tougher than I am) who will basically have a strangle hold on the stat migration market. All I can see this doing is driving more and more ppl away from the profession. This whole timer thing needs to be seriously re-thought.



XXX - KALLAWARR - XXX - FILET O'FISH - XXX - FINGERLICKIN' GOOD - XXX
Kwee
Sat May 15, 2004 6:56 am
#2




kilokat wrote:

( and don't try to fool anyone that you're hardcore guys, cause you didn't put in the 12 straight days of grinding to get, and if you did, strike my last and kudos, you're a lot tougher than I am)


I enjoyed reading your hologrinder perspective. Very honestand respectful to the profession. The above will make many Master ID's upset however and I wanted to comment on it b/c the very reason that makes this statement untrue for many of us is the reason we are so symphathetic about how long the grind is now going to take. There were two very large groups of current masters who did not master the profession in under three hours.


1/ Those of us who mastered at launch didn't have the benefit of dancer/musician buffs (they didnt' exist), macros (the commands were known by very few people, I was one of those who knew about them but didn't use them, they were exploitable in various ways back then), spices and food were hard to locate and their usefulness in ID was not widespread knowledge. My friends who worked on grinding ID every single day took about a month to master. I hated grinding and took two months, but only because I had my ID friends to practice on and it was fun hanging out with them, otherwise I would have taken much longer. It was a click fest of drool-inducing boredom and carpal-tunnel-causing pain. We've been ID's for a very very long time and it was a hard road. When we mastered it very much felt like an achievement, but it was hard earned.


2/ This group has my utmost respect and adulation. Some ID's did not grind at all or very little, and got their exp from real customers. The first of these started mastering five, six, seven months post launch. They hated grinding so much they never or rarely did it. I partially took this path with my Tailor who mastered 7 1/2 months post launch (did some grinding towards the end).


And of course there is a third group who whether they got to MID fast or slow are concerned with the new exp method slowing or stoppingthe growth of the profession (that is, new people coming in).


Message Edited by Kwee on 05-15-2004 10:03 AM




Kwee Glitterwing of Starsider
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& Kwee-kwee ~ Master Image Designer
Gamer Girl Columnist ~ swg.warcry.com
Ivory & Topaz of TC ~ Elder Dancers, IDs, Musicians

Myzia
Sat May 15, 2004 7:30 am
#3

Well said, Kwee!


I am one of those that hates to grind, and I got all my exp from real customers. I began playing SWG back in September last year and started working towards Image Design almost right away. I mastered it literally 2 months ago - it took me 6 months to get there! I also was one of those who didn't understand macros at first, and I didn't know much about food or spice either ( and was too poor to buy much, anyway). So it bothers me when customers complain about my prices, and assume that I'm just another hologrinder out to get a fast buck.Not all of us treat this profession like fluff! And I'm personally glad the devs made it so hard to get through it now.


Just my 2 cents.



Myzia Zydian


Master Image Designer


Starsider


Just_Bri
Sat May 15, 2004 8:13 am
#4
I don't like to grind.


I don't want to grind.


However, I can't get anyone to even let me practice on them because I don't have anything that anyone wants as a novice entertainer working towards ID. I don't want to take up a rifle and do combat missions to pay the maintence on my house ( which was donated ). Do you have any recomendations for one so new to the profession that they don't have alternate means of fund-raising? Right now I have about 3K to my name.



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kilokat
Sat May 15, 2004 9:24 am
#5
Ok, like I said, kudos to those of you that actually play the profession, although I am a hologrinder I really like to see other ppl that do take up a certain profession because they enjoy it. My comment was aimed at those (and I know that there are some out there cause I saw thier little chat bubbles floating around after the pub was announced) that took up ID and did do the macro grind just so that they could capitolize on selling stat migration. These are the ones that have already started trying to charge 100k (haven't seen it personally, but I've heard many accounts of astronomically high fees) for stat migration. I can tell you that personally I went and got ID'd this morning for 17k, but I got a full body makeover for that with lots of demos and effort put in. I had no compunctions about handing over the cash since I probably spent 25-30 min going through all different sorts of looks. I was mostly venting anger and frustration at the devs and the players who saught to capitolize on this latest fiasco. My sincerest appologies to any true ID's that I've insulted.



XXX - KALLAWARR - XXX - FILET O'FISH - XXX - FINGERLICKIN' GOOD - XXX
Nouva
Sat May 15, 2004 1:25 pm
#6


kilokat wrote:

( and don't try to fool anyone that you're hardcore guys, cause you didn't put in the 12 straight days of grinding to get, and if you did, strike my last and kudos, you're a lot tougher than I am)





You are so correct... Took me a month...



Oh, and fix the entertainer profession....

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Crimelord of Bestine, Leader of the ORCA
The Galaxy’s First Master Image Designer
Entertainer Extraordinaire 
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