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Thread: I got disconnected waiting on the Timer...

ToppDog
Wed May 19, 2004 6:21 pm
#1

...four times last night. I find it very silly that I might have to run an afk macro just so the server still thinks I'm doing something when in reality I'm not because I did a one second adjustment & now i'm sitting around for several minutes until the timer runs out.
Kwee
Wed May 19, 2004 7:11 pm
#2

Yikes that's bad news. Has this happened to anyone else?




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RamhornSWG
Wed May 19, 2004 8:04 pm
#3

I decided to load up a character on a server I dont play as much.



I stood at the image design tent for 2 HOURS. Not a Image Designer of any level anywhere on the planet.



Is there a work around for stat migration? I really need this characters stats changed to make him playable.



If you stand in the tent for 2 HOURS and no Image Designer walks in, should the player have access to the terminal?




Lunah
Thu May 20, 2004 4:46 am
#4






Kwee wrote:

Yikes that's bad news. Has this happened to anyone else?







If you only click and don't move around you get a boot from the server. It got me so annoyed I wrote myself an antiboot macro. very simply, but its idiocy that I had to write one to prevent getting the boot.


antiboot macro:


/si;


/pause 600;


/st;


/pause 600;


/macro antiboot


o.O (i am not even afk, i am right there sitting clicking screens, no macro's, no third party programs, thoi know of plenty who do).




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Kwee
Thu May 20, 2004 7:03 am
#5

Is this happening with the 2 min timer too, or just 5 min?




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& Kwee-kwee ~ Master Image Designer
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Ivory & Topaz of TC ~ Elder Dancers, IDs, Musicians

ToppDog
Thu May 20, 2004 8:10 pm
#6

When it happened to me, it was running the 5 min timer. I know that it has to do with player activity, but normally I would be done with my job & on my way, thus being active. But with the timers you really have no choice but to not do anything at all until you are done...because of several reasons:


If you switch off from mouselook like you normally would to toggle between your screens & such, the ID UI screen resets itself & cancels out all the changes you just made, & you have to do them all over again.


In order to see your customer well, you need to make the UI screen as big as possible to see them up close...& as I found earlier, adjusting the size of the screen will offset your number of blocks in all your sliders & screw up your count now that the numbersare gone. So once you have the UI as big as you can make it, you really can't resize it.


So we have the combined problems of:


1. needing the UI as large as possible to allow for good close-up views of our customers


2. not being able to shrink it or it will screw up our sliders.....&


3. not being able to toggle the UI screen without having to redo everything


This leaves us with the only options of running a non-afk macro to fake the game into thinking we're active, or taking the risk & hoping we get done in time.
Reiella
Thu May 20, 2004 10:59 pm
#7



ToppDog wrote:
When it happened to me, it was running the 5 min timer. I know that it has to do with player activity, but normally I would be done with my job & on my way, thus being active. But with the timers you really have no choice but to not do anything at all until you are done...because of several reasons:
If you switch off from mouselook like you normally would to toggle between your screens & such, the ID UI screen resets itself & cancels out all the changes you just made, & you have to do them all over again.
In order to see your customer well, you need to make the UI screen as big as possible to see them up close...& as I found earlier, adjusting the size of the screen will offset your number of blocks in all your sliders & screw up your count now that the numbersare gone. So once you have the UI as big as you can make it, you really can't resize it.
So we have the combined problems of:
1. needing the UI as large as possible to allow for good close-up views of our customers
2. not being able to shrink it or it will screw up our sliders.....&
3. not being able to toggle the UI screen without having to redo everything
This leaves us with the only options of running a non-afk macro to fake the game into thinking we're active, or taking the risk & hoping we get done in time.





Hmm, actually I hadn't noticed the mouse-look causing the display to reset at all. Was doing a number of image-design changes "On The Run" too,,, Hmm maybe I just failed to notice it, anyway .

I don't really see much need to resize the UI for appearance checks myself, but I can see how some folks would want to. Except for the face, which autozooms.



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Lunah
Fri May 21, 2004 12:29 am
#8

Its just how the server responds to player activity. If you do nothing else but simply click, the server will eventually register you as inactive and boot you. It doesn't matter what timer, its simply the fact that you only click the screen every so often without any other interactivity.


And yes, I have had this happen a few times.





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Syzygy-Gorath
Fri May 21, 2004 12:37 am
#9






Lunah wrote:

Its just how the server responds to player activity. If you do nothing else but simply click, the server will eventually register you as inactive and boot you. It doesn't matter what timer, its simply the fact that you only click the screen every so often without any other interactivity.


And yes, I have had this happen a few times.



It will also boot you if you sit still and only talk via tells/channels…I used to have to run a title-changing macro when I got into deep RP




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Maisland
Fri May 21, 2004 11:52 am
#10




While I haven't been logged out myself, I have had customers and my Alt (who I use to practice on) get logged out. This is really frustrating. Especially since if my Client gets booted and I don't realize it (which I usually don't as I can't see them through the ID Screen) and click on the confirm button I have to log out myself to get out of being in an ID Session state. I had to make a macro to keep my Alt online while I practice on her. Last night I had a customer who kept getting logged out. This is yet another reason why these timers are a BAD IDEA.



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Electro
Fri May 21, 2004 2:27 pm
#11

This has happened forever... it happens to me on a moderately regular basis, mostly when I am heavily roleplaying in conversation. I forget to move around, /examine something, etc. and get logged out. It hasn't happened to me during an ID session, but I can see how it might.
Nouva
Fri May 21, 2004 2:59 pm
#12

I wouldn't worry about it Kwee,


This is a SOCIAL profession. The time-out is set by the devs and Im sure they are aware. If you actually talk and role-play in spatial like this profession is supposed to do while waiting on the timer (instead of trying tomindlessly grind it out), they wont time out.





Oh, and fix the entertainer profession....

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Vicotnik
Fri May 21, 2004 4:38 pm
#13






Reiella wrote:

Hmm, actually I hadn't noticed the mouse-look causing the display to reset at all. Was doing a number of image-design changes "On The Run" too,,, Hmm maybe I just failed to notice it, anyway .

I don't really see much need to resize the UI for appearance checks myself, but I can see how some folks would want to. Except for the face, which autozooms.




All selections you have made seem to reset, though they will still go through when you commit. Or that has been my experience, anyway.


I think the need to resize the UI is tied into things such as resolution, graphical detail and monitor size. I find that I have to resize the window to work on facial details, actually. They are just too darn small if I don't.





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