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Thread: Statmigration

Shadow73
Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:59 am
#1

Las time I wrote my opinion on this messageboard I was flamed. I was not amazed by this as I have seen the bad attitude by many of the people posting here who only tells me that they dont know how to behave in a mature and proper way. This is a forum. In a forum everybody can post their opinions and they should not be personally attacked by it. So please people.. Behave and know that we all should be respected. Afterall we are all just human beings (ok... there are som wookies around...) with different ways of thinking and different opinions.


Now back to my opinions (it is only my humble opinions nothing else.. ):


1. I love the statmigration feature for imagedesigners.. My char became master imagedesigner in january and I have been online playing that char almost every day since then so I have experienced both sides and MY OPINION (dont flame me if you disagree) is that this change was a good one for IDs and the society. Yeah.. I have lots of friends. RL friends and online friends who praise the fact that they now dont have to wait for 6 days to get stats migrated. The 10-15k they have to pay for it is well worth not having to wait that long.


2. Some imagedesigners DO CHARGE to much for the statmigration and they have only themselves to thank if people ract negatively then. I would say that 15k should be the absolute roof on price for a statmigration. I can tell you this.. A doctor would have the same problem if he charged 25k for a buff... and a dancer gets into serious problems with other players if he/she charges 15k for a dance buff.. (Ive seen that happen many times, and I was a dancer for moths buffing people for 3-5kand that took 10 mins aswell and a dancer cant do other things aswell like the ID can do.. like all the other changes that can be done while the stat migration is working).


So to those of you who complains about agressive people.. dont flame the Devs for puttin the Statmigration on you. Dig into yourself and change your prices. Then life will be much easier for you.


Its so boring to watch the UI for 10 mins.. give it a break!!! Try bounty hunter.. and wait for the shuttle all the time... Try dancer and buff without the chance of doing anything else.. try to bea crafter... there are timers there aswell.. We the IDs can chat and do all sorts of changes while that conter runs... So use the time in stead of just complaining.


3. XP DEVS!!! DO SOMETHING.. IT TAKES TO LONG TIME TO WORK THEIR WAY UP. ITS TOTALY UNFAIR TO THEM. I worked under the old system and I soon found out that since there are no mission terminals or anyway to get xp then actually do stuff on rl-chars in the game the only way to be able to master this without sacrifying everything else in Real life was to get help from a friend and GRIND (hate that word..). Now it is totaly impossible to do so.. I know people who are not interested in combat professions (like my girlfriend) who wanted to create a char (finally I got her into a computergame) but she soon gave up because of the XP.


Is it so difficult to go into the database and change the values for XP???? I cant belive it will not be changed in publish 9....


4. STATMIGRATION again.. Master Imagedesigners.. (no one will grind this one just to do it om themselves) should be able to migrate their own stats.. That should be a reward to them for all the work they have spent doing it on others... Docs can buff themselves.. I think everyone who makes it to master in a profession should be rewarded with the posibillity to use their skills on themselves..


and last.. My deepest respects and thanks to KWEE she is doing a fab job for all of us.. even thoug we all havedifferent opinions.. She manages to find themiddle wayand makes all IDs more or less happy!


biwan: shadow



JuJutsu
Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:23 am
#2

Thanks for your input. I'll give it all the consideration it deserves.
Syzygy-Gorath
Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:39 am
#3






Shadow73 wrote:

Las time I wrote my opinion on this messageboard I was flamed. I was not amazed by this as I have seen the bad attitude by many of the people posting here who only tells me that they dont know how to behave in a mature and proper way. This is a forum. In a forum everybody can post their opinions and they should not be personally attacked by it. So please people.. Behave and know that we all should be respected. Afterall we are all just human beings (ok... there are som wookies around...) with different ways of thinking and different opinions.


Now back to my opinions (it is only my humble opinions nothing else.. ):


1. I love the statmigration feature for imagedesigners.. My char became master imagedesigner in january and I have been online playing that char almost every day since then so I have experienced both sides and MY OPINION (dont flame me if you disagree) is that this change was a good one for IDs and the society. Yeah.. I have lots of friends. RL friends and online friends who praise the fact that they now dont have to wait for 6 days to get stats migrated. The 10-15k they have to pay for it is well worth not having to wait that long.


And my opinion, and that of most IDs and most non-IDs, is that the change to stat migration sucks. Don't flame us…like you did in the next point.


2. Some imagedesigners DO CHARGE to much for the statmigration and they have only themselves to thank if people ract negatively then. I would say that 15k should be the absolute roof on price for a statmigration. I can tell you this.. A doctor would have the same problem if he charged 25k for a buff... and a dancer gets into serious problems with other players if he/she charges 15k for a dance buff.. (Ive seen that happen many times, and I was a dancer for moths buffing people for 3-5kand that took 10 mins aswell and a dancer cant do other things aswell like the ID can do.. like all the other changes that can be done while the stat migration is working).


So to those of you who complains about agressive people.. dont flame the Devs for puttin the Statmigration on you. Dig into yourself and change your prices. Then life will be much easier for you.


Its so boring to watch the UI for 10 mins.. give it a break!!! Try bounty hunter.. and wait for the shuttle all the time... Try dancer and buff without the chance of doing anything else.. try to bea crafter... there are timers there aswell.. We the IDs can chat and do all sorts of changes while that conter runs... So use the time in stead of just complaining.


I am a crafter. And dancers can chat as well. Many stat migration clients don't want other changes. Your whole point is self-contradictory and insulting. You have no right to tell me what my time is worth.


3. XP DEVS!!! DO SOMETHING.. IT TAKES TO LONG TIME TO WORK THEIR WAY UP. ITS TOTALY UNFAIR TO THEM. I worked under the old system and I soon found out that since there are no mission terminals or anyway to get xp then actually do stuff on rl-chars in the game the only way to be able to master this without sacrifying everything else in Real life was to get help from a friend and GRIND (hate that word..). Now it is totaly impossible to do so.. I know people who are not interested in combat professions (like my girlfriend) who wanted to create a char (finally I got her into a computergame) but she soon gave up because of the XP.


Is it so difficult to go into the database and change the values for XP???? I cant belive it will not be changed in publish 9....


I agree on this one.


4. STATMIGRATION again.. Master Imagedesigners.. (no one will grind this one just to do it om themselves) should be able to migrate their own stats.. That should be a reward to them for all the work they have spent doing it on others... Docs can buff themselves.. I think everyone who makes it to master in a profession should be rewarded with the posibillity to use their skills on themselves..


I agree on this one, too, although I don't see it being a huge benefit. I'd be more inclined to push for a fix to musician/dancer buff XP systems so that they can buff themselves.


and last.. My deepest respects and thanks to KWEE she is doing a fab job for all of us.. even thoug we all havedifferent opinions.. She manages to find themiddle wayand makes all IDs more or less happy!


Unfortunately, it's not up to Kwee what happens. She works her butt off for us, but when the devs ignore what she tells them we end up with systems like what we have now and no one is happy.


biwan: shadow












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Sir_Voor
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:00 am
#4



For someone that is asking not to be flame (repeatly) you come very close to flaming everyone else



1. I love the statmigration feature for imagedesigners..


MY OPINION is that in its current form it is very bad for IDing, I would like it IF player had their choice to have it done in 6 days or pay an IDer to do it, and also if had some reasoning on how and why we can do it. As I recommended Months ago when critical function was first being talk about, an Hot-tub or Steam-room would be great for doing stat migration becuase it would bring customers to our salons and promote a social setting.




2. Some imagedesigners DO CHARGE


Just the other day I put two luck-containers for sale at 5k each and they sold in about an hour, so next time I'll sell them for 6k. It's called supply and demand..... So like wise when I log-in and get 4 /tells asking for stats I would charge more then if I get 1 every hour or so. I would prefer if customers was not forced to see an IDer but hopefully that will change




3. XP DEVS!!! DO SOMETHING..


Now that is a flame and I agree the system need a revamp to make it faster AND FUN!




4. STATMIGRATION again.. Master Imagedesigners.. (no one will grind this one just to do it om themselves) should be able to migrate their own stats..


/Agree


Message Edited by Sir_Voor on 06-03-2004 10:11 AM







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Maisland
Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:08 pm
#5









Shadow73 wrote:


2. Some imagedesigners DO CHARGE to much for the statmigration and they have only themselves to thank if people ract negatively then. I would say that 15k should be the absolute roof on price for a statmigration. I can tell you this.. A doctor would have the same problem if he charged 25k for a buff... and a dancer gets into serious problems with other players if he/she charges 15k for a dance buff.. (Ive seen that happen many times, and I was a dancer for moths buffing people for 3-5kand that took 10 mins aswell and a dancer cant do other things aswell like the ID can do.. like all the other changes that can be done while the stat migration is working).


So to those of you who complains about agressive people.. dont flame the Devs for puttin the Statmigration on you. Dig into yourself and change your prices. Then life will be much easier for you.







Unfortunately, there are people out there who think 10k is too much. I had one guy try to get me to accept 3k. I feel that my time is worth more than that. Personally, if they aren't willing to pay me at least 10k, I'm not willing to do the Stat Migration.



I survived the CU


I can not survive the NGE


yosGalen
Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:55 pm
#6

Can't compare it to crafting timers because we can use multiple craftingtools, no waiting at all.


Anara
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