Image Designer Archive
Thread: Some ideas I had for IDs from a Non-ID
Barfalomue wrote:
Um...paintings are made from looted schematics.
FuschiaD wrote:
Yes... by architects.
Looted schematics are still profession-specific. It's not like anyone who picks one up can make them.
I'm sure your intention was honorable, if misguided... but let's face it, you're not going to get a favorable reaction from ANYONE by waltzing into their forums, announcing "I've never tried your profession" and then telling us that we are useless (or seemingly useless) and declaring that you have the answers to make us 'fun'. No, we don't appreciate it. No, your post was not welcome. As I said before... you need to TRY a profession before you declare it invalid. You'd be surprised how much fun we have, I think. I was a master doctor and dropped it to go back to being an image designer. And right now, it's pretty much the only thing still holding me in the game.
Now then, I suggest you do exactly as you previously proposed, and go elsewhere with this type of post. Not that I think you'll be any more welcome there.
This is a big reason why this game is lacking in quality content. Everytime an outsider comes in and though may have stated something in error, but has good intentions, they are pushed away by that community. So I said some things that were not all Care Beary...is it one line that decides your approval of an individual? If you judge people by one or two things they may say which you don't like, then you are small and close minded. Individuals who can not get passed one statement are bound for failure in whatever it is they are doing. And so what if I didn't try your profession?? This game is a co-player supported game. Wouldn't it be better for the outside community to come in and say: "This is how your profession could help me." In the DE forum, I welcome outsiders with open arms. I enjoy seeing people come in and put forth their support for our profession. I enjoy getting ideas on what my customers may want. I am a DE. I have no idea what good I could plausibly be to a TKA. So, they come in and say things that could possibly make them better using our droids and giving ideas for tasks that our droids could perform to suppliment their profession.
As far as the schematics...Well, I have looted painting schematics and have been able to stick them in my factory and make them. I am not an architect. Perhaps it is a bug. But I figured because of this it was usable by anyone. Or perhaps it is useable by Artisans, I am an Artisan also.
One of your profession's members came to the DE forum. Because of that, the DEVs are talking about making a module for Image Designers which would show kind of a holographic or similar type of thing showing the finished product of your styling before the customer actually accepts it. That was not a DE idea. That was originated from an ID.
Anyway, good luck with your profession.
HI Barfalomue
Just to let you know a little forum history that may help you understand where some of the posters are coming from. Not that long ago Runesabre, Lead Designer Star Wars Galaxies posted
1) What critical function can Image Designers perform in SWG?
its not that you came and said it it is how you came and said it
if i came over to the de boards and said;
"hey since you guys can only make crappy droids that are way worse that ch and be creatures and thus are useless i think you guys should have droids that dance in a cantina so that i dont have to always find a dancer because they are also useless"
while i dont believe a letter of what i just said its about the same as you put which is basicaly;
"your prof sucks so lets steal the skills of another prof and give them to you so that you guys suck less and are less usefull because my play style is the only correct playstyle and if you dont make my gaming experieince alot better you are garbage"
and we are judging you by our replies you may be a very nice, if misguided, individual. we were judging the poor way in which your ideas were put forth.
dont take it too hard it is just how it is
you come to a prof board clueless and say your piece in an objectional and hurtful manner you invite this sort of response.
-Biana
that is exactly why i 1stared ya
for coming here clueless and badmouthing a profession i love
if you said "hey i got an idea to make image design even better.... tell me what you think"
i would not have starred ya
and if it was a good thought that hasnt been said 80times i would have even 5stared ya
dont worry bout the 1star it doesnt realy do much
just take it as a "be more considerate next time award"
-Biana
1) We are not useless, and we do not appreciate being told that we are. And, it doesn't matter if it was "only one line." You still told us we're a useless profession, and that's not going to endear you to anyone.
FuschiaD wrote:
It might be an artisan thing. At any rate, it's not just anyone, I know that much. Looted schematics are profession-specific.
I'm getting increasingly frustrated at your inability to comprehend our point of view here. We don't have a problem with someone making a respectful post, something along the lines of "I would enjoy seeing this implemented" or whatever. In fact, when I saw the title of your thread I was excited, because we always enjoy getting feedback from potential customers. But your actual post was a slap in the face to all serious image designers. I mean, it boils down to this: you don't want to be bothered with actually TRYING the profession we love so much and work so hard on, but you're still arrogant enough to assume that you don't HAVE to try our profession to think you know all the answers.
I'll recap, in case I haven't made myself crystal-clear:
1) We are not useless, and we do not appreciate being told that we are. And, it doesn't matter if it was "only one line." You still told us we're a useless profession, and that's not going to endear you to anyone.
2) If you have not taken the time to try our profession, do not deign to come into OUR forum and tell us what's wrong with it and how YOU have all the answers for making it 'fun'.
3) We do not want to take away from any other profession, which is why the idea of ID's doing paintings and such has always been shot down. We HAVE professions already in the game who can do this kind of thing. We don't like to step on anyone's toes.
4) We would prefer to see our primary functions fleshed out and realized before we attempt to add any other functions to being an Image Designer.
fuschia is my new best friend)
couldnt get logged in and you hit all my points exactly)
-Biana
Ok, so refining my ideas.
How about customizable guild crests turned into tatoos? These would be customizable by the guild leader and could be retrieved from the guild terminal by guild members. They retrieve a schemtic of sorts from the guild terminal. Then they go to an Image Designer who then tatoos it on a shoulder, chest or back.