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Thread: Join me in a master level boycott of the Image Design Profession

Just_Bri
Fri May 21, 2004 2:18 pm
#14


"Minority, myfoot.I'm pretty sure China is the SOLE person I've seen who not only thinks the current xp gain is just fine, but would actually like to see it made even HARDER. China, if you really think that, I encourage you to drop and remaster ID under the current xp gain, and THEN tell us what you think. "


China claims to have dropped a box or two already and regained them. She says she enjoyed it. But I am willing to bet she did it in her own "neck of the woods", which happens to be a Player Community named after her. She also most likelyhas an established clientelle, so I think she got off light. I personally finally got the ID exp nessissary for Novice ID this morning with the help of a player that was willing to wait the few hours of grinding untill I was able to migrate her stats.


Number of satisfied and paying customers pre-novice Image designer = 1


Number of Non-stat migration customers post-novice ID = zero


The profession needs help in a way that giving it stat migration dosen't provide.




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"V E E L A" S A I D - Retired Master Smuggler, cancelled 7/27/2005. SOE, think about every non-Jedi "cancelled" signature you've seen, and remember that there will be more as you forget the communities that makes this game's heart and soul. Entertainers, Crafters, Hybrids, Non-Jedi Combats, and Smugglers. When you are closing shop on SWG, remember that you ignored the REAL community to cater to an alpha class that assured this game would never be "balanced."

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Danzen
Fri May 21, 2004 10:35 pm
#15

I mean ID should NOT take longer than BH to master heh...
amber33
Sat May 22, 2004 4:38 pm
#16

I actually find it amusing that people are complaining about how fast it previously was for ID's to master. Sure I have sympathy for those that truly want to be ID's having a near impossible time at it now.



However, one of the problems with the profession before was that most people thought of it as a complete joke. Many, many only doingtrying IDbecause they were hologring. ID was aprofession you could master in 2 hours with a good script , fool around with for a bit and drop because quite frankily it didn't have many advantages for keeping it to anyone that didn't just have fun with it.


Now that they've change it, and there is a moderate amount of appeal to the profession, people are complaining that those of us who did it for the love of it and held onto our ID master while the rest of you just threw it away got off easy.



funny if you ask me.



As an aside, I think it would be great if ID masters could buy/rent or make a tent so that we could put them up in our various towns around the galaxy.



Helloise





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tawess
Sat May 22, 2004 8:06 pm
#17

Cool... I like cuba is being boycotted... Well... I macroed my way to 4444 just before the patch... Why...? 'casuse no one would have me practising on them if i did not... And for some reason i do NOT pay 14-15 a month for a singel-player (read sitting ID my self) game. So... I made master earlier today... On my macroed skills... But you know what... I pull my straw to... I help out ppl working their way up under the new system as good as i can... i try to be a good ID... And for that i should be boycotted... My rearcheeks i should... So life is not fair... Live with it... Oh and by the way... If you happen to stop by infinty drop by the Coronet ID tent and we can talk this out face to face...



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Just_Bri
Sat May 22, 2004 8:17 pm
#18

He was not calling for a boycot on the use of ID, we was calling for all Masters to stop praising the changes. Which isn't really a boycot. I don't know why he used that term.



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"V E E L A" S A I D - Retired Master Smuggler, cancelled 7/27/2005. SOE, think about every non-Jedi "cancelled" signature you've seen, and remember that there will be more as you forget the communities that makes this game's heart and soul. Entertainers, Crafters, Hybrids, Non-Jedi Combats, and Smugglers. When you are closing shop on SWG, remember that you ignored the REAL community to cater to an alpha class that assured this game would never be "balanced."

*Veela encourages you to adopt this sig
tawess
Sat May 22, 2004 8:47 pm
#19

True... But he took a half-winged swing at those who had not worked fortheir skills "for real". Anyhow... it is 5 in the morning here and i'm going to bed... Just want to add i like the first 1 or 2 stats i do... by the 5 or 6 i just want to scream... But i guess that it is our burden to cary... Oh and by the way.. do we not all look forward to when all the peeps out there will migrate their chars to fit the NEW jedi system... Oh the joy.. =P I still have faith in the developers to find a good solution to our current plight(sp)


'nite all...


Ps. I just want to say hi to the brave soliders in the Coronet ID Tent... Keep up the good work. Ds.



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Reiella
Sun May 23, 2004 11:51 am
#20



ToppDog wrote:

Danzen,

If anyone is flaming you, it is more with a Bic lighter than a blowtorch. Everyone (except for China or whatever) agrees with you more than they disagree with you. Many of us don't like the timer & xp problem any more than you do. Andeven thougha lot of us are masters already, we'restill concerned about what is happening to those on their way.

Many of us who are masters already hide that fact so we're not harassed with nonstop tells. Wewant more novices to make it just as much as you do so there are more of us to share the load. I've done my share of 8 hour ID shifts with lines of customers crossing the cantina floor, & I really don't want that to get even worse for existing masters any more than you want to spend the endless mindnumbing hours grinding out ID boxes & falling asleep at the keyboard from boredom.

The fact is these changesare bad for ID's on both sides of the master tag, & we all need to realize how it affects those on the other end & pull together instead of letting our frustration get the better of us.






[ Joke ]
With as much as we hide, maybe some ID Visibility counter should implemented, and we can show up on BH terminals. Not to kill of course, just to get service done.
[ /Joke ]

It's quite true that alot of Master ID hide their title and function. For exactly what ToppDogg said.

We want the other IDs to be asked for whatever help they can provide. It's also largely the reason Stat Migration is available at Novice I believe. Gives the non-Masters a chance to "hook" customers, and tell them what changes they can do and generally increase awareness!! Of course, that's far too optimistic .



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ToppDog
Sun May 23, 2004 12:12 pm
#21

Danzen,


If anyone is flaming you, it is more with a Bic lighter than a blowtorch. Everyone (except for China or whatever) agrees with you more than they disagree with you. Many of us don't like the timer & xp problem any more than you do. Andeven thougha lot of us are masters already, we'restill concerned about what is happening to those on their way.


Many of us who are masters already hide that fact so we're not harassed with nonstop tells. Wewant more novices to make it just as much as you do so there are more of us to share the load. I've done my share of 8 hour ID shifts with lines of customers crossing the cantina floor, & I really don't want that to get even worse for existing masters any more than you want to spend the endless mindnumbing hours grinding out ID boxes & falling asleep at the keyboard from boredom.


The fact is these changesare bad for ID's on both sides of the master tag, & we all need to realize how it affects those on the other end & pull together instead of letting our frustration get the better of us.


Danzen
Sun May 23, 2004 5:21 pm
#22

Actually Bri, Iwas in factthinking boycott. Unpopular thought I guess, but my idea was that the masters, being masters and prolly vets in the game could survive a little less buiz, the novice ID's would reap the benefit of a little more buiz, and perhaps the devs might notice if not a reduction in overal ID action, might notice if the few masters that seem keen on the new system might mention on one of these forums that it was hurting their buiz, and their enjoyment of the game. Perhaps rude to suggest griefing players, that was not my sole intent, if only partialy intending grief isany better I intended the thread to give us another post to discuss our feelings on it, and hoped to create one with more novices chiming in, and fewer masters singing praise to the devs and doom to the holo grinders out there.


I of course also fostered hope that real change could be seen in the time before the jedi revamp changes the path to jedi, as my fourth holo was ID. Of course I now think SOE will prolly hot fix it after they change the jedi system, I am content now to move on with the trades I wanted to play when I got back into this game, perhaps then gimping ID xp was a good thing then, for my enjoyment. But still I think unfair to those still trying to master, but that was a post from an earlier day )


Just_Bri
Sun May 23, 2004 5:29 pm
#23






Danzen wrote:

Actually Bri, Iwas in factthinking boycott. Unpopular thought I guess, but my idea was that the masters, being masters and prolly vets in the game could survive a little less buiz, the novice ID's would reap the benefit of a little more buiz, and perhaps the devs might notice if not a reduction in overal ID action, might notice if the few masters that seem keen on the new system might mention on one of these forums that it was hurting their buiz, and their enjoyment of the game. Perhaps rude to suggest griefing players, that was not my sole intent, if only partialy intending grief isany better I intended the thread to give us another post to discuss our feelings on it, and hoped to create one with more novices chiming in, and fewer masters singing praise to the devs and doom to the holo grinders out there.


I of course also fostered hope that real change could be seen in the time before the jedi revamp changes the path to jedi, as my fourth holo was ID. Of course I now think SOE will prolly hot fix it after they change the jedi system, I am content now to move on with the trades I wanted to play when I got back into this game, perhaps then gimping ID xp was a good thing then, for my enjoyment. But still I think unfair to those still trying to master, but that was a post from an earlier day )








I do not advocate boycotting anyone. The game has enough problems without intentionally giving other players a hard time.



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"V E E L A" S A I D - Retired Master Smuggler, cancelled 7/27/2005. SOE, think about every non-Jedi "cancelled" signature you've seen, and remember that there will be more as you forget the communities that makes this game's heart and soul. Entertainers, Crafters, Hybrids, Non-Jedi Combats, and Smugglers. When you are closing shop on SWG, remember that you ignored the REAL community to cater to an alpha class that assured this game would never be "balanced."

*Veela encourages you to adopt this sig
FuschiaD
Sun May 23, 2004 6:57 pm
#24






Just_Bri wrote:


I do not advocate boycotting anyone. The game has enough problems without intentionally giving other players a hard time.





QFE.


I'm all about sending them to a player who needs the xp if they need something a non-master can do. But these days, that's not much.




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Vicotnik
Sun May 23, 2004 7:09 pm
#25

Just because you are angry with SOE, there is no point in taking it out on players through a boycott. That's just... Wrong.


And it won't result in anything at all, really.





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