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Thread: Brainstorm: Jump to Lightspeed

Drygo
Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:28 pm
#14






Syzygy-Gorath wrote:

Okay…I see a lot of people talking about what Image Designers are and aren't. I used to be one of the pack that said "we make people pretty, end of story." But I think it's abundantly clear that we're not going to be amking people any prettier than we can right now for a very, very long time. With that in mind, let's open ourselves up to other similarly artistic pursuits.


I say give us nose art! Let us color anything and everything we can get our grubby little paws on. Rotation? All for it! In other words: I'm desperate. I'll take any aesthetic content I can get, and to HELL with stat migrations.







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I still have to respectfully disagree. I completely understand where you're coming from. I definitely understand the desire for new hairstyles and whatnot and how it looks like it may very well be an extremely long time until we get that.


Having said that, I'm extraordinarily concerned that the design ideas for ships are severely stepping on the toes of those professions who logically and rightfully deserve them...the crafters, artisans, and shipwrights. If for some odd reason these professions didn't exist, then I would 100% agree with you and say the next logical step would be Image Designers. But, that's not the case.


I'm all for trying to figure out new and exciting ways to add to our profession in the expansion, but I don't want to step on the toes of the crafters in the process. Tattoos for pilots of a specific rank is a great idea to that end. A military haircut that only pilots of a specific rank can wear is another suggestion. How about playing off the idea of holoemotes and be able to create certain projections for disguises of people? I've always liked the spy role idea that various entertainers talk about from time to time. Being able to make people blend in with various alien races. Perhaps there'll be quests of some sort where we have to talk to people over the com's in space. Disguising our voices, translator modules for alien languages, that type of thing. These are all just off the top of my head here. But, I think there are a lot of neat ideas some of us can probably come up with in regards to identity and disguise. Granted, they're probably lofty ideas that won't ever get implemented, LOL. But, nonetheless, even though the devs even seem keen to the idea of us designing ship art, I really kind of think that belongs with other professions, and I hate to see them miss out because it was given to us instead.




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Sir_Voor
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:05 am
#15






Electro wrote:

My personal view of Image Design is that we are the artists and stylists of SWG. As such, we focus on the external appearance of things. In the base game, this means how players look. In the expansion, you won'tsee players very much, you'll see SHIPS.As such, I think it is entirely appropriate that we use our artistic skills to decorate/design the look of ships.


After all, it is *not* the manufacturer ofa plane that decorates it historically, it is the pilots, crew andground crews that add personal touches such as nose art on fighters, tail art on bombers, etc. I think this would be a great thing for us to be able to do in JtLS.






I agree with you BUT I feel the devs would not give us anything that we can be artistic with. Despite the overwhleming proof the MMORPG players love to be able to have unique looks. The current dev leadership would be very happy if we looked like clones. Player will has some ablity to give their ship a unique look via adding weapons and shields, and maybe a limited color pallette like speeder have. but nothing that would give a true artistic feel. So I have to say NO to being a ship artist

Message Edited by Sir_Voor on 06-16-2004 08:09 AM







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RyadhiMakkar
Thu Jun 17, 2004 7:58 am
#16

While the original concept of ID was to strictly limit us to redesign avatars there is no reason why we couldn't extend our craft into other realms (of course these abilities shouldn't hinder the artisans).


Along with the potential of nose art, how about kill marks? A pilot could earn kill mark points and a sticker could be applied to the starcraftby an ID... Just a thought.



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Neige
Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:11 am
#17

i dont get it.



Could you give me the rationale why plastic surgeons would paint stuff on starships ? Wouldn't it be more logical to allow us to useour skills on every living creatures (pets, npc vendors, faction followers) ?


And i'll repeat it until it gets into some higher up skull : turn ID into an advanced medic profession, you'll have coherence, content, and a clearer concept for the profession.



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Areli
Fri Jun 18, 2004 12:07 am
#18






Neige wrote:

i dont get it.



Could you give me the rationale why plastic surgeons would paint stuff on starships ? Wouldn't it be more logical to allow us to useour skills on every living creatures (pets, npc vendors, faction followers) ?


And i'll repeat it until it gets into some higher up skull : turn ID into an advanced medic profession, you'll have coherence, content, and a clearer concept for the profession.






I don't know what the lay of the land is here, but as a new ID I have absolutely no desire to be a medic. That just furthers the excuses to give us more abilities like stat migration that we have no desire to fulfil (at least I don't).


I could see us getting ship decals, but only under one condition... if we also got player tattoos. Then it would actually make sense; it's not that far a leap from doing an elaborate tattoo to doing an elaborate nose design, and in WW2 they were usually done by amateur, tattoo parlour-style artists, not professional industrial painters. However, doing the principle colour schemes on an entire starfighter doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense. One doesn't have to be a trained professional to grab a can of spraypaint... I think that's the idea behind droid and vehicle customisation kits, and it would be inconsistent and silly to change that for starships.


On a totally unrelated note, i want to be able to give guys lip and maybe eyeshadow colours. Lips at least. Down with SWG sex discrimination!!



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Plagvreugd
Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:37 am
#19

Applying lipstick and doing people's hair has very little to do with the medical profession (trust me, I'm a doctor in RL, so I know what I'm talking abou :smileywink


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Reiella
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:54 am
#20



Plagvreugd wrote:
Applying lipstick and doing people's hair has very little to do with the medical profession (trust me, I'm a doctor in RL, so I know what I'm talking abou :smileywink
Thewt





Very true, but that's hardly the extent of ID skills.

Not that I necessarily agree that it should be a medical profession, just stating .

Look under some of the body changes [Height, Torso] and alot of the face changes [rhinoplasty, chin/jaw/cheek changes].



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Plagvreugd
Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:58 am
#21






Reiella wrote:

Very true, but that's hardly the extent of ID skills.

Not that I necessarily agree that it should be a medical profession, just stating .

Look under some of the body changes [Height, Torso] and alot of the face changes [rhinoplasty, chin/jaw/cheek changes].



Earlier today I've made what I think is a rather strong case for why ID should not be a medical skill. Here's the link:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=image_designer&message.id=21780


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Edit: sorry, I really need to be more concise in my posting...

Message Edited by Plagvreugd on 06-18-2004 07:05 PM

Vorpaks
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:46 am
#22

ID terminal in cantina ships? (What a Flying Circus that would be! )



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Plagvreugd
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:49 am
#23

Ooh I like that!
CM_Ronin
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:55 pm
#24

Well despite the fact that recently Plasic Surgeon became the new Title for one of the ID Boxes. I initially thought ID was going to be exactly what it said in context would be.


Example:


Bob: "Hey Did you hear some new Star Wars Game is coming out its called Star Wars Galaxies"


Jim: "Yeah I want to be an Image Designer"


This makes me think that there is going to be some "image designing" and im not just talking about people's 'image' in a style sense. For a quick sumup read my idea in my signature.



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Fade2Blaccke
Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:24 pm
#25

with all the money I am making I am planning tou buy a YT-1300 and turn it in to a flying beauty salon and spa
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