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The numerical on speed refers to the time in seconds between attacks. Therefore a smaller is prefered.

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Darksaba wrote:

not such a noob question really. I get the same speed out of my 3.0 speed geo blaster as i do out of my 1.7 speedscatter pistol.

Is this because pistol speed caps at 100 and i have 130 odd? If i cap pistol speed on skill does the hardware speed matter?

Thanks

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Ok thars a qvestion I'd like to see answered too. If the skill is speed capped, does the weapon speed even get calculated? Or does it calculate by the weapon speed before adjusting according to skill speed?

Its the same concept but I use 2H weapons, and have +12 Enhanced Melee Speed. (which actually seems to work like a "proc" rather than static speed).

Wokka-wokka

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Wokka wrote:

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Darksaba wrote:

not such a noob question really. I get the same speed out of my 3.0 speed geo blaster as i do out of my 1.7 speed scatter pistol.

Is this because pistol speed caps at 100 and i have 130 odd? If i cap pistol speed on skill does the hardware speed matter?

Thanks

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Ok thars a qvestion I'd like to see answered too. If the skill is speed capped, does the weapon speed even get calculated? Or does it calculate by the weapon speed before adjusting according to skill speed?

Its the same concept but I use 2H weapons, and have +12 Enhanced Melee Speed. (which actually seems to work like a "proc" rather than static speed).

Wokka-wokka

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basicly you're at about 87 speed if you're a master swordsmaan, and with a cant remebr if its 5.4 or 5.6 speed power hammer you max at 96, so you need about 9 more points of speed and without specials you'll swing once per second

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Wokka wrote:

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Darksaba wrote:

not such a noob question really. I get the same speed out of my 3.0 speed geo blaster as i do out of my 1.7 speed scatter pistol.

Is this because pistol speed caps at 100 and i have 130 odd? If i cap pistol speed on skill does the hardware speed matter?

Thanks

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Ok thars a qvestion I'd like to see answered too. If the skill is speed capped, does the weapon speed even get calculated? Or does it calculate by the weapon speed before adjusting according to skill speed?

Its the same concept but I use 2H weapons, and have +12 Enhanced Melee Speed. (which actually seems to work like a "proc" rather than static speed).

Wokka-wokka

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Here is more or less how this works:

You have a weapon, say is speed is 3. You do a move that increases the fireing time by 2x. If you spam this move, you will fire once every 6 seconds. Smaller number is better as it means less delay between shots. You won't notice as much of a difference with pistols as they generally are in the 2-3 second range, but with weapons like t-21s with 5-7 second firing times the difference is very apparent (a 7 second delay t-21 using a 2x time modifier move takes a while to fire at low levels). Now for weapon speed.

Weapon speed is the number by which the delay in your attacks will be reduced when using your weapons. If you use use the above example with a 3 second weapon using a 2x time modifier move, you will shoot once every 6 seconds. Now say you have pistol speed of 50. The weapon speed stat will be calculated after the weapon time and special move time has been calculated, and reduce the delay be a percent equal to the speed stat. Your pistol move delay will be reduced by 50% from 6 seconds to 3 seconds. The minimum delay for any attack is 1 second, so if you had your 6 second special move and a pistol speed stat of 100, you theortically would fire instantiously but are capped at firing once per second. The weapon speed and the special move time cost are always calculated, but high weapon speed stats can effectvely eliminate the delay. Only a few classes actually get to 100 speed with their weapons, TK and fencer being two that do in on their own, but with skill tapes other classes can also achieve high enough weapon speeds to lower their firing delay to 1 second. 100 means 100 percent off the delay of the weapon, any other that is useless as you are already hitting the speed cap.

The force sensitive speed bonuses work slightly differently. They are a percent of your weapon speed stat, not a stat bonus in themselves. So if you had 12% ranged speed from the force sensitive line and a pistol speed of 50 regularly, you in effect have a pistol speed of 56. So instead of taking 50% of your firing delay, you get 56% off. Its not a hard number, rather a percentate added to what you already have. It allows some of the slower classes to catch up with the faster ones, but isn't useful for the already speed capped classes.

hope this helps, if you have other questions or don't understand my post then ask and I will try to clerify.

I searched for the post I was remembering from about the FS speed, but I can't fnid it. Bah, stupid broken search function. The problem is that the difference between a flat 12 to a speed stat or 12% isn't very great, and its hard to do percise tests when the system only has second increments. Frankly it isn't really important, the FS speed lines make you faster, and faster is better.

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Staveeno wrote:

PS. If your speed rating is +100, weapon speed doesn't matter at all, even if your weapons speed is 100, although, I think 10 is the slowest speed in the game for a looted T21

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The force sensitive speed bonuses work slightly differently. They are a percent of your weapon speed stat, not a stat bonus in themselves. So if you had 12% ranged speed from the force sensitive line and a pistol speed of 50 regularly, you in effect have a pistol speed of 56. So instead of taking 50% of your firing delay, you get 56% off. Its not a hard number, rather a percentate added to what you already have. It allows some of the slower classes to catch up with the faster ones, but isn't useful for the already speed capped classes.

hope this helps, if you have other questions or don't understand my post then ask and I will try to clerify.

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Message Edited by Staveeno on 10-08-2004 02:02 PM