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Thread: Why cant I hit as hard with my gun compared with people with swords?
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Ojena
Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:36 pm
#1
Just joined.. so a noobie. I go out with really good guns and I am master pistol, but the people with swords just blow me away. Is there something I am doing wrong?
Xanevae
Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:42 pm
#2
Pistols don't do a lot of damage, its just the way the game is, you do attack really fast though. pistoleer also gives some of the best defences from a profession in the game. if not the best, fencer being the other good one, but also has the same low damage problem.
Eventualy you can get some really expencive pistols that require schmatics from the Death Watch Bunker or that use special components. you would be expected to pay over a million credits for a single gun of such quality though.
I've never been a pistoleer, so sorry i can't be more specific or be of any greater help
MackAgp
Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:07 am
#3
It's all a question of balance (or as some would say 'wait for the combat rebalance) .
as a TKM using a VK (180 max dmg - AP1) i can hit for 2400-2600 (sometimes more) with Unarmed 3 (highest special) , or around
as a master pistoleer using a FWG 5 (250 max dmg - AP0) i can hit use HS2 for around 1000-1300 again at speed cap
Now to take down a GDK solo with TKM takes about 13mins (UA3 or HH2 don't matter), but with pistol's I can't touch it, haven't got a pistol with the right damage type, as i refuse to pay millions for a weapon that will be exhausted unless it has a nice DOT on it
A friend with swords outpowers me completely, eg together on a GDK it takes about 3 mins to take it down. - he is hitting for 2800+ a hit (AP2).
From experience, Pistol's seem better at lower level (easier and more damage) and are quicker to gain an elite in, but swords/TKM are much better at the higher level, they just take longer to get there.
Pistol's and TKM (TKM can do more damage than pistol's - definitive) only have AP1 as their max armour pericing, so against V high level mob's, they are really slow - Swords has AP2 as their max, thus slice through these high level mobs with ease.
So No, Your not doing anything wrong, it's just pistoleer is underpowered for anything that has more than about 6k HAM (or armour)
Using a DX2 against Rancors is feasible - I used to solo Rancor lairs (any type) but always used a Pet to keep them busy whilst i picked them off , as a TKM i waltz in and just spin attack a bit, then finish them off with UA3 (cause of the MOB warping bug when they get down to low level - Can't be bothered running 100m in every direction to finish them off - saying that my swordsman mate doesn't have that problem with his area attack, as that does enough damage to finish them off)
So in ending
Swords = Powerful against all
TKM = Powerfull against AP1 or less
Pistoleer = Okay against low level Mob's - don't bother trying to do NS or GDK or Krayt though.
(just a quick point) We are speed capped on all specials (swords/TKM/Pistoleer) so the speed is not relevant (okay swords needed the +12 FS melee speed and a +7 tape)
Message Edited by MackAgp on 09-28-2004 09:09 AM
tsivozi
Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:43 am
#4
I'm the swordsman friend !!! hehe
Sowrdsman is not as powerfull if you only master this prof as the key is speed and master swordsman is only 75 2H speed.
if you are able to speed cap ( around 95 )with a PH ( blast damage) with at least 600 max dmg ( not uber, just a decent Dmg slice on regular PH) you will multiply by at least 4 your Damage per Second.
but anyway, i've been a pistoleer myself and nothing to compare for damage. If you want high damage for range, go rifleman
Tremk_Stryder
Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:49 am
#5
Rifleman's the best dmg output for long range professions, but low defenses
Pistoleer has best defenses, but low dmg
Swordsman as rifleman
Fencer as pistoleer
You need to do combos...and also know if u prefer pvp or pve
Pvp...i was rifleman-tkm and was killing people of with my jawa and my vk...in pve i did good as well...until i got to a sbd which took me 10-20 min to conceal shot with rifles..and tkm would do only 100 dmg against it...and having a 250k ham didnt help either...lol
OckVofad
Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:41 am
#6
Right now melee is king. I was hitting for more damage as a novice swordsman than at Master pistoleer.
But... I'm expecting melee to be nerfed hard with the combat revamp whenever that happens.
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