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Thread: Is 73 Million Force XP the correct amount to force sensitive ? Also other FS questions.
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Jediknight2k1
Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:30 am
#1
I heard that for crafters that it is even higher.
If the conversion rates is only 1/10 for combat then how many quenkers or voritors or rancors do I have kill.
Also the current FS tree to Alakazam(sp) requires skill points.
Does this mean I cant be a FS crafter and FS swordsman ? It would seem that I would have to free up skill points to become jedi armorsmith.
If it is correct then I thought radically changing your character(IE dropping skills) was supposed to a thing of the past ?
Already in my guild people are saying they will quit because of the 73 million xp needed.
Surely that amount must wrong.
realvorda
Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:11 pm
#2
you need 20.950 mill fs xp. and the current ratio for normal weapon xp is 30-1 (and combat xp 3-1)
and indeed, FS skills cost SP.
Message Edited by realvorda on 08-15-2004 10:11 PM
Jediknight2k1
Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:15 pm
#3
Oh great. How many times will SOE make and break promises then ?
The FS tree should be a completey different sets of points.
Kharn_JB
Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:18 pm
#5
And it's currently 100 structure crafting XP for 1 FXP. How's that for being punished for having a particular class? 
StarNick
Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:31 pm
#6
Tier 1: 175k
Tier 2: 250k
Tier 3: 350k
Tier 4: 450k
For all trees...just like the HAR Tree...Novices are 50k, Masters are 620 AP
1,225,000 FS xp PER Tree.... or 4,900,000 per prowress profession
Hence to master each Prowress profession:
620 Ap
4,950,000 Fs Xp
Unknown if Master or Novices count towards Jedi (neither need SP....Novice prolly will count as you need xp)...each Skill box is 1 SP each.
You need 24 Skills total, that means the amount of FS Xp will be different for quite a few ppl....
Scenario:
IF Master/Novices count, and you did Weapons/Combat xp grind:
Prowress profession 1: Master
Master 1 Tree thru Weapons xp, you'll get a 2nd tree through Combat xp...so only 2,475,000FS xp will be needed to grind....or 74,250,000 Weapons Xp
Need to Master: 620 AP -- 4,950,000 FS Xp --> 74,250,000 Weapons Xp + 7,425,000 Combat xp
Prowress Profession 2: get 4-1-0-0 in it
Only Need to get: 1,400,000 FS Xp....Simply Mastering the First tree will give you more than enough to master the last skill box...
For Simplicity sake...lets say you master the First tree solely with Weapons Xp... you'll need 36,750,000 Weapons Xp to do so...so you'll gain 3,675,000 Combat Xp (Yes this is false, as the cap is 300k...you're going to have to use this xp...but can only do so on another 3 or so Skills if you go up the 2nd tree...). You then spend 175k of the 3.675 million CXP...leaving 3.5 million CXP to either use for Jedi initiate or other skills (if you're serious going jedi, you prolly will)
Estimated Total from Scenario: If you do all that grinding...you'll make:
111,000,000 Weapons Xp Total
11,100,000 Combat Xp Total
Combined: 122,100,000 Xp Total...with 3,500,000 Combat Xp Unused
Granted, this is also an impossible scenario as you'll reach the cap with LESS xp (the CXP cap)...so really just minus the 35 million Weapons Xp from 111 million....which is 76 Million...pretty close to 73 (but your 73 million figure was Force Xp, my 76 million figure is regular xp!)..So I guess 76 million is the max you can spend for the bare requirement for jedi...So if you do need FS Xp for Jedi (prolly will heh) you'll have 35 million...or 1,166,666 FS XP left over for other FS skills or jedi itself...
This can be much lower...mainly for crafters, as they have a less of a conversion lost....and you dont have to even master any Tier 3 or Tier 4 Prowress
Edit: Btw this is only for combat....and since the 20 something million was said, for combat....that is incorrect...as you dont have to master any prowress tiers or the profession itself...andnearly anyProfession XP can be converted into any FS xp...so you can get all the low lvl tiers and make out quit (but get no benefits)...on the scenario I provided...6,350,000 Force XP
Message Edited by StarNick on 08-15-2004 07:36 PM
Jediknight2k1
Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:30 am
#7
I heard that for crafters that it is even higher.
If the conversion rates is only 1/10 for combat then how many quenkers or voritors or rancors do I have kill.
Also the current FS tree to Alakazam(sp) requires skill points.
Does this mean I cant be a FS crafter and FS swordsman ? It would seem that I would have to free up skill points to become jedi armorsmith.
If it is correct then I thought radically changing your character(IE dropping skills) was supposed to a thing of the past ?
Already in my guild people are saying they will quit because of the 73 million xp needed.
Surely that amount must wrong.
Crazyguy111
Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:37 am
#8
The current hope is that the values are just for TC so we don't get a taste of what's keeping alot of accounts going and will continue paying for another month. I REALLY hope they drop in down, a lot.
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