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Thread: Equality for factions / not getting ripped off in a quest

Kharn_JB
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:15 am
#14

Switch around the loot tables, make them purchasable for both sides for faction points, whatever. I don't care, I just want an Imperial banner that I've waited an excruciatingly long time to get and deserve for beign a loyal Imperial.
Alristico
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:21 am
#15






Limbonik wrote:





Kalandra wrote:

OK... lets talk about faction equality. To name a few cool things:



Imps Get

1. Imp prototype PSG (On par with standard PSGs)

2. Endor Painting (worthless)

3. Lytus Family Artifact (neat. Completely worthless)

4. Stormtrooper armour (canon)

5. AT-AT suit (with HELMET)(canon)

6. TIE suit (with HELMET)(canon)

7. AT-ST (worthless)

8. Imp Banner (virtually impossible to obtain in a election that allows Rebels and Neutrals to vote)

9. Imp Command Hat(yes I know they took it out, but people still have them on display) (worthless)


Rebs Get

1. Rebel Banner (Themepark perk. Imperials can't offset and prevent you from getting yours.)

2. Wierd (non-canon)armour that SPYNET OPS AND MEATLUMPSWEAR!!!!!!! (It is canon, it is Mon Calamari armour worn in RotJ)

3. B-wing flightsuit (NO HELMET!) (Who wants to bet it will be in the space expansion?)

4. X-wing Flightsuit(Craftable, but NO HELMET!) (Who wants to bet it will be in the space expansion?)

5. NO REBEL ENSIGN HELMET (Who wants to bet it will be in the space expansion?)


Please don't knock our banner... its all we got!


If you think this is a flame, then it is. However, your argument isn't pointing out all the aspects of the equality problem.



Rebels and Imperial Aliens do not get equality. Rebels are terrorists with limited funding and we'd rather use our Imperial aliens as workers/slaves/gun fodder.







worthless? try buying those things. And im pretty sure you can use the at to group with and get 30k missions all by yourself. But that would be tricky. Also imp psg's have like 3-4x the hitpoints dont they?



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Limbonik
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:34 am
#16






Alristico wrote:

worthless? try buying those things. And im pretty sure you can use the at to group with and get 30k missions all by yourself. But that would be tricky. Also imp psg's have like 3-4x the hitpoints dont they?




I wouldn't try buying any of those things...they're just worthless junk. AT-STs can bump up missions but you also run the risk of losing it everytime you decide to take more missions. And I can't speak for all IPSGs out there, but mine doesn't have 3-4x the HPs...and it still "shifts" when I cross server boundries more often than not.





Kharn_JB wrote:


Switch around the loot tables, make them purchasable for both sides for faction points, whatever. I don't care, I just want an Imperial banner that I've waited an excruciatingly long time to get and deserve for beign a loyal Imperial.



Hey, I'm in total agreement with you about the Imperial Banner. I've been asking Thunderheart ever since this stupid election-based reward system was put into the game to make both Banners a factional-cost item available from your local recruiter. He said it was in the loot table and would see about getting it fixed almost 6 months ago. Even now, I still ask about it in random "red name" threads or send him PMs on the boards about it and have hear nothing.



I say if you want the Imperial Banner, send Thunderheart a private message. I say if you both Banner available at your recruiter, send Thunderheart a private message. Let him know this is an issue that people feel strongly about. If we all start asking him, he may realize just how much we want it. In-game protests got Wookiees their armours and we can no longer protest in-game...so send him a mail instead.

Message Edited by Limbonik on 09-18-2004 11:35 AM



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Kharn_JB
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:34 am
#17


AT-ST are only good for getting high level missions solo. But, you have to be overt to have one out which means risk of getting killed by the opposing faction. Also you can lose you AT-ST if it's not hidden in a private building. It's still a lot easier and safer to just find and join a solo group.


Also as for the imperial flight suits, I've heard from a little birdie that Imperial pilots get them for free, so they're going to be a pretty worthless reward anyways.

Message Edited by Kharn_JB on 09-18-2004 02:38 PM

mrbleepbleep
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:39 am
#18






SharkBoy007 wrote:



The problem is, you don't have Imperials and neutrals preventing you from getting your banner. If you want to get technical, the rebel banner should be harder to get than the Imperial banner, simply because no rebel in their right mind would ever display their faction loyalty in such a bold way, as it would bring unwanted attention from the Empire.


I'm fine with rebels in game having a fairly easy way of getting their banner, but the Imperials should also have a farily easy way to get their banner. And I'm all for them adding helmets to the flightsuits and adding a rebel ensign helmet, as well. So, maybe we can strike a collective bargain: You rebels push for Imps to get our banners, and us Imps will push for you rebels to get your helmets. Deal?





Speaking as a Rebel, I'd be more than happy with that. BTW, I agree that it would make sense for the Imperial bannerto be more common ... butthis is the same game where it's impossible to make an ordinaryrug without having to slaughter a number of people equivalent to the population of Belgium to lootbits of threadand glue off their corpses (*pant* rant over).



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Alristico
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:46 am
#19

imp psg's last much longer than regular psg's


endor painting can be sold easily for half a mil


lytus family artifact is a favorite among collectors, especially cause not many people seem to know about it.


I dont care what you've heard, the both the at suit and tie suit can be sold for more than a 100k if not much more.


the at-st is worthless on crowded servers but is priceless on unpopulated servers. As you mentioned, you can just hide it in a private structure to prevent from losing it.



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Kharn_JB
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:56 am
#20

Anyone can use the IMPPSG can't they? Don't the rebels get a tool kit schematic in their theme park? It's a moot point.


I don't care about any other rewards really. A banner is a banner. If rebels get it in there themepark, Imperials should get it in their themepark. There's no feasible reason that Imperial banners should be so extremely rare when rebels are swimming in there's.
Alristico
Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:59 am
#21

you dont have to care about how much things are worth. The point is they aren't nearly worthless.


I see now. Your saying that since they are worthless to you it is unfair to you. So its all about you huh. selfish.



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zRhyno
Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:04 pm
#22

At least your server got victor to win, this was chilastras 4th or 5th, and sean has won every one so far.






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RoboFish
Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:30 pm
#23



zRhyno wrote:
At least your server got victor to win, this was chilastras 4th or 5th, and sean has won every one so far.




It was supper hard, I /telled dozens of people to get them to vote for Victor and had them tell others. WE worked hard for this and I hope that I get my banner or I am so launching a formal protest with SOE.



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Kharn_JB
Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:03 pm
#24

How about this...


There's rebels on Starsider who got the Imperial banner for votingfor victor and are auction them for millions of credits


How's that for fair?
Alristico
Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:18 pm
#25






Kharn_JB wrote:

How about this...


There's rebels on Starsider who got the Imperial banner for votingfor victor and are auction them for millions of credits


How's that for fair?







ya you already said that. Imps do the same thing. stop comparing cause it instigates the wrong argument.


you should only be arguing about continuity. Why would you ever want to start a "but you get this, and i want that" argument.


if you think imps should have easy access to their flags then say so, and say why. Dont, however, say you should have easy access to your flag just because rebs have easy access to theirs. That just instigates, especially because of all the unmeasurable perks to both sides.

Message Edited by Alristico on 09-18-2004 04:18 PM



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Kharn_JB
Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:40 pm
#26






Alristico wrote:






Kharn_JB wrote:

How about this...


There's rebels on Starsider who got the Imperial banner for votingfor victor and are auction them for millions of credits


How's that for fair?







ya you already said that. Imps do the same thing. stop comparing cause it instigates the wrong argument.


you should only be arguing about continuity. Why would you ever want to start a "but you get this, and i want that" argument.


if you think imps should have easy access to their flags then say so, and say why. Dont, however, say you should have easy access to your flag just because rebs have easy access to theirs. That just instigates, especially because of all the unmeasurable perks to both sides.


Message Edited by Alristico on 09-18-2004 04:18 PM






Imperials should have easy access to the Imperial banner, because the Empire would want to promote itself and want it's soldiers and officers to have and display their banners proudly to keep up morale and loyalty to their organization. As an Imperial, one would likely want to hang their banner proudly to show their proudness of their offiliation, which the Empire would want. The Empire would also want their banner displayed as much as possible as it would act as propaganda to show how far spread it's influence throughout the galaxy is.


However on the flip side, Rebels may be proud of their faction, but displaying it so freely is almost like signing your own death warrant. The rebels are suppose to be in hiding and be covert, not showing off who they support and where they are. Leia Organa denied being rebelsupporter for some time when she was captured, to avoid being tortured and forced to release important Rebel tactical information. Simply put, a rebel should be weary of displaying their faction's banner as it is considered treason to the Empire and grounds for imprisonment or worse by the Empire if it is found in possesion of something showing their support for the Rebel faction.

Message Edited by Kharn_JB on 09-18-2004 04:41 PM

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