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Thread: .::Petition: Please remove the player inertia changes::.

DrunkJeedEye
Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:34 pm
#14


Agreed. But for those that have legitimate motion sickness issues, it would be nice it they made it optional.





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aries_liak
Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:09 am
#15






Bugboy321 wrote:


I too am experiencing headaches and dizziness, and I have flown in helicopters for a living and have never experienced motion sickness. It's simply not an option to play under these circumstances, and though I have chronic sinus headaches, they don't prevent me from playing like this has potential to do now.


I think the biggest thing is how it causes me to completely lose immersion in the game every time I start moving. It reminds me that it's a game every timemy toonso glaringly defies the laws of physics. This is also probably why it causes motion sickness in some individuals, because what your eye sees is not what your inner ear detects for motion and there's a window of response that the current game physics is outside off to avoid inner ear response.


Walking isn't an option since itis too slow to really be effective, especially when dealing with combat.And as if my close relationship to my ALT key isn't bad enough, I'd rathernot haveto keep my SHIFT key on a first name basis. I could try the non-alt keymaps they recently introduced, but they mess with my cruise control using my extra mouse thumb button.


I'll put some effort into trying to adapt to it this weekend but I'm not encouraged by the reports of illness.

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 03-11-2005 09:27 AM



I dont believe you at all.




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Bugboy321
Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:26 am
#16






aries_liak wrote:


I dont believe you at all.




You don't believe me at all? What part don't you believe? That I get dizzy? That I get headaches? It doesn't matter what you believe, Tiggs has already stated in the focus thread they are looking into the reports of illness due to this. Just because YOU aren't experiencing it doesn't mean nobody else is. As a matter of fact I chalked the headeache and dizziness off on my own chronic sinus problems until I read so many others having the same problems. Now I know why I haven't wanted to play all week when I usually can't wait to get home to do so.

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 03-11-2005 01:31 PM



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aries_liak
Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:32 am
#17

I think you dislike the new movement and are making it up. I think its absurd that in a game that has warping 360% degree camera switches and jerky movements in coronet that this new movement system would inspire physical discomfort.


Pretty much I think you are a liar.



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Bugboy321
Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:39 am
#18


It doesn't matter what you think because Tiggs has already stated they are looking into the reports of illness.


I guess you couldn't read the italics above, maybe bold will help. If you got 1654 posts calling people liars I feel sorry for you and you need to get a life. I can deal with the motion changes. Without the physical effects.


Where did you get your degree in neurology anyway?


P.S. here's theURLto Tigg's post about the reports, perhaps you can go there and call her a liar.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_live&message.id=54451

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 03-11-2005 01:47 PM



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aries_liak
Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:22 pm
#19

I don't believe you. I don't believe anyone who reports a feeling of sickness playing a video game.


I got my medical degree atGeorge Washingtonin 1997 in nuerology and did my internship at St John's hospital out of Detroit.


I also am a licensed pilot and flew jets for the military grade fighter pilot while attending medical school on a government grant.


I spent the last 2 years fighting Iraqi insurgency forces as medic for the green beret's. We where stationed out of Kirkuk working with the Kurds.


I speak arabic, english, and a bit of chinese.




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I8TheWorm
Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:26 pm
#20



Kryonastus wrote:
I hated it also, but dont count on them going and changing it. They are really proud of that stinky little turd of a development.





Have you considered they might have needed to make the change for a reason?



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aries_liak
Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:31 pm
#21






Bugboy321 wrote:

@aries_liak: Now it's me that thinks YOU are lying. What kind of doctor are you (neurologist at that) who would call a patient reporting ill effects of avideo game a liarwhen almost all video games have warnings on them about seizures, etc? Or are all those warnings prompted by liars too?


The refuge of a coward is to claim that everyone is either a liar or a cheat. Why don't you contact Tiggs and give your professional opinion on the matter? Are you saying I'm lying about flying in helicopters too? And what the heck does your alleged military service andlanguageshave to do with anything other than as afeeble attempt to impress someone?


And once again, you didn't notice the BOLD PRINT.


Besides which, did you notice I said I was going to give it a try this weekend and see if I can get used to it, am I lying about that too?


Please, someone lock this thread.





You are calling me a liar? How dare you? I did fly jets and was a combat medic and I am also a doctor!


Come onthese are rediculous statement and the warning is for people with epolepsy who suffer seizures due to rapidly blinking lights. I know its factually impossible for this change to cause people not already prone to the aforementioned disease to develop symptoms related to it. 99% of the people claiming sickness is being caused by the games new movement are liars and using peoples real problems to mask there real intention of reverted movement to a style they personally preferred.The game has always been jerky. I have personally lagged so bad in c'net on multiple occassions it looked as if I was skipping through the city. The camera swings and pivots at 360's and can be jerk, flashy and annoying at times. Yet through all this 1000's of people could play previously and now suffer physical illness, dizzyness and siezures?


Its called Popycock and frankly I won't sit here and listen to someone use epolepsy as a cover for there true cause of not liking the games new movement.





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Bugboy321
Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:12 am
#22

@aries_liak: Now it's me that thinks YOU are lying. What kind of doctor are you (neurologist at that) who would call a patient reporting ill effects of avideo game a liarwhen almost all video games have warnings on them about seizures, etc? Or are all those warnings prompted by liars too?


The refuge of a coward is to claim that everyone is either a liar or a cheat. Why don't you contact Tiggs and give your professional opinion on the matter? Are you saying I'm lying about flying in helicopters too? And what the heck does your alleged military service andlanguageshave to do with anything other than as afeeble attempt to impress someone?


And once again, you didn't notice the BOLD PRINT.


Besides which, did you notice I said I was going to give it a try this weekend and see if I can get used to it, am I lying about that too?


Please, someone lock this thread.



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Bugboy321
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:10 am
#23





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Ack, why bother.

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 03-17-2005 12:32 PM



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PixellJ
Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:01 am
#24

I like it too. I can't say it's any less realistic than clipping through most 'solid' objects and creatures in the world.



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I8TheWorm
Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:06 am
#25



PixellJ wrote:
I like it too. I can't say it's any less realistic than clipping through most 'solid' objects and creatures in the world.





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DeQuosaek
Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:51 am
#26

The devlopers have stated repeatedly that they do not respond to petitions. This is a waste of time.




Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

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