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Thread: Space xp converted to Force xp
Kniol
Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:50 am
#14
Ducimus wrote:
Marzuk147 wrote:
There is no reason for it NOT to be done IMO.
acutally there is.
Pilot XP is ridculously easy to get and stockpile on. The amount of XP Jedi's would be getting is sick, and would only further aggrivate how common jedi are at all skill levels.
Okay, and combat xp isn't easy to get and stockpile on, with an inventory and backpack full of grenades? Not a good argument, friend.
What about the person like "moi", who is Master Artisan, Master Droid Engineer, and Master Shipwright? That's 203 sps right there. Add 15 just so I can heal my sorry little toosh when I get attacked by durnies and gnorts running harvies.. 218. Then the rest goes into Merchant, to TRY and sell some of the droids and ships and ship components to people!
There's not enough points to be able to get master merchant, even if I drop Novice Medic, so will always be limited on number of vendors, amount of items on vendors, etc.
But that's neither here nor there....... the point is, how do I get FS points? I've done the crafting mastery Novice now, and opened one box there........ but am not skilled enough (make that not skilled AT ALL) in any combat roles to do anything else. So getting a few thousand fs points off of piloting advancement would be welcome to me.
And a lot of others in my same or similar situation, I'm sure.
But that's just my opinion, and Hey! I could be wrong! -- Dennis Miller
Redondo
Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:35 am
#15
I think it would be reasonable to convert space xp, I mean it is not free. However, not giving up skillpoints for pilot makes it a bit easier. But I think being a pilot meshes well with being a jedi. Most of the jedi in the movies were great pilots, at least integrate them someway other than I have a jedi and JTL. As far as being restrictive because everyone doesnt own JTL, well not everyone is combat or crafting or medical, so you are limited in the types of XP you can convert anyway. As far as stockpiling it, just make the conversion rate high or cap the xp. That is a travesty you cant convert SW xp, is that true?
amiller44
Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:39 am
#16
CaileSathinor wrote:
People like me (with over 10 mil prestiege) would be able to do whole trees at onceThat's why.
-Caile
Then make conversion 200:1 or something like that. Anything would be better than nothing
Ducimus
Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:24 pm
#17
Kniol wrote:
Ducimus wrote:
Marzuk147 wrote:
There is no reason for it NOT to be done IMO.
acutally there is.
Pilot XP is ridculously easy to get and stockpile on. The amount of XP Jedi's would be getting is sick, and would only further aggrivate how common jedi are at all skill levels.Okay, and combat xp isn't easy to get and stockpile on, with an inventory and backpack full of grenades? Not a good argument, friend.
Have you spent much time in space? Master a pilot profession yet? You have any idea how fast pilot XP and/or prestigue exp is obtained? Once you master, Its in the millions, and thats just playing casually.
Message Edited by Ducimus on 12-21-2004 11:25 AM
Redondo
Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:53 pm
#18
Spac xp is fast, I saw the 4 mill xp I needed for tier 4 and thought that would take me forever, well I was wrong, it why by pretty quick. I dont think people are looking for an easy way to get FS xp just another type of xp to convert to fit their play style. If space XP is easy to get then make the conversion factor reflect that, maybe 1000:1 or something.
Just because jedi is the ground game doesnt mean the jedi are only on the ground. It would be cool to see jedi skills for space, in the Corellian trilogy Luke and Leia used the force to sense enemy ships around them as well identify friendly ships, Luke used the force in ANH to aim his proton torpedos to destroy the death star, I mean that was a pretty big part of that movie, especially before the other two came out. As Yoda said, the force is all around us, in everything, that tree, that rock, in you and me...(probably butchered that quote)
I dont even have a jedi, but I think "the force" should be integrated with space. Which means giving jedi force abilities in space as well as allowing space xp to be converted to Force Sensitive XP.
Ducimus
Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:55 pm
#19
>>I dont even have a jedi, but I think "the force" should be integrated with space. Which means giving jedi force abilities in space
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Words alone do not fully describe how strongly i disagree with this.
The most beautiful thing about JTL is how successful you are, depends on YOUR skill, You the pilot, you the guy with one hand on the joystick.
If one want's to feel "the force" in space, i suggest you look inward to find that moment of pure concentration that allows you to suceed when you might otherwise fail.
Skill JTL, is not and should not EVER be determined by who ground the most professions for the j3d3y3 insta win buttons.
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Words alone do not fully describe how strongly i disagree with this.
The most beautiful thing about JTL is how successful you are, depends on YOUR skill, You the pilot, you the guy with one hand on the joystick.
If one want's to feel "the force" in space, i suggest you look inward to find that moment of pure concentration that allows you to suceed when you might otherwise fail.
Skill JTL, is not and should not EVER be determined by who ground the most professions for the j3d3y3 insta win buttons.
ASHRID
Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:57 am
#21
MikeMonger1 wrote:
ASHRID wrote:
Someone hasnt read the FAQ in the Force Sensitive forum have they!.....
No you cant convert Pilot (or Shipwright for that matter) xp into any force xp
No one ever asked if you could or not. We all already know you can't.
The point of this thread is, "Gee, wouldn't it be nice if you could?"
Thanks for answering a question that was never asked, though....
Ok then how about this....
Because it would be unfair to those that did not have JTL (since that seems to be comment of the moment regarding the 75K cash payout to JTL players)
Lysheny
Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:54 am
#22
I'd love that. Space is fun. Currently, cause I want Jedi some day, I have to go to the ground again and get xp there. Wasn't the main reason for the Jedi Revamp that you can get to Jedi by playing? But if I want Jedi I can't play JtL. Being able to convert prestige points would fit perfectly with what has been done before and with the Star Wars theme in my opinion.
Everyone who says it's too easy... with the right conversion rate it wouldn't be easier than ground XP conversion. I even wouldn't mind it being slower, everything is better than nothing as someone else already said.
Everyone who says it would be unfair to those who don't have JtL... it wouldn't cause you can either be in space or on the ground, you can gather prestige points or ground xp during a given time, not both.
It would just be another way of getting closer to Jedi, not the way, nor easier.
I don't see a valid point against it.
Everyone who says it's too easy... with the right conversion rate it wouldn't be easier than ground XP conversion. I even wouldn't mind it being slower, everything is better than nothing as someone else already said.
Everyone who says it would be unfair to those who don't have JtL... it wouldn't cause you can either be in space or on the ground, you can gather prestige points or ground xp during a given time, not both.
It would just be another way of getting closer to Jedi, not the way, nor easier.
I don't see a valid point against it.
Korlan
Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:03 am
#23
if they did do this..... It would only make sense if it was 35:1 or 40:1 ratios (something like that)..... as the xp caps pretty high I hear.
Lysheny
Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:14 am
#24
Even higher would be okay with me, ie. 100:1 - that would mean 1 mil prestige points = just 10.000 FS xp = 30.000 ground Combat XP = 1 lair with grenades! And I'd say you need more time to get 1 mil prestige points than you need for one lair).
KabaI
Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:11 am
#25
Marzuk147 wrote:
There is no reason for it NOT to be done IMO.
Actually, there is. One of the points to having only ground combat xp be transfered to FS xp is that the end result (jedi) is a ground only profession (not in that they cannot fly, but up there, they are no better than anyone else). How are you going to learn how to survive on the ground (in fact, how are you even going to complete your missions), if you've never spent any time in a proper combat profession?
Rissen
Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:31 pm
#26
Yeah i am sure luke would see it that way, the force is for your on the ground fights like in the first movie episode 4.
KabaI wrote:
One of the points to having only ground combat xp be transfered to FS xp is that the end result (jedi) is a ground only profession (not in that they cannot fly, but up there, they are no better than anyone else).
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