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Thread: what is the point of a GCW patch...

soal-farous
Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:44 pm
#14






Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:

a) quit whining, its technilogically impossible in this game to hold that many people in one place (your lucky that a CSR didnt start warping you all away)


b) get a better computer?


c) the GCW is borked, we need the patch (the majority of us who don't get lag will enjoy it)






Actually MOST people could'nt give a damm about the GCW and would like it removed. Its a total waste of time if you ask me NOTHING you EVER do in the gcw MAKES any difference and this patch will make NO difference to that fact.





you cant be seriously thinking this...no one wants it to be removed. the GCW IS this game...its what its all about. its the star wars. its waht all the movies (older movies) are about, not killing monsters and building stuff.if you dont want it then go play everquest.



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Ackew
Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:21 am
#15






soal-farous wrote:





Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:

a) quit whining, its technilogically impossible in this game to hold that many people in one place (your lucky that a CSR didnt start warping you all away)


b) get a better computer?


c) the GCW is borked, we need the patch (the majority of us who don't get lag will enjoy it)






Actually MOST people could'nt give a damm about the GCW and would like it removed. Its a total waste of time if you ask me NOTHING you EVER do in the gcw MAKES any difference and this patch will make NO difference to that fact.





you cant be seriously thinking this...no one wants it to be removed. the GCW IS this game...its what its all about. its the star wars. its waht all the movies (older movies) are about, not killing monsters and building stuff.if you dont want it then go play everquest.






Yes I am seriously thinking this and I want it removed and so doloads of otherpeople i know. NO the gcw IS NOT the game never has been and NEVER will be unless they turn this in to an FPS. What this is all about is a MMORPG. You do know WHAT an RPG is right ?? Its a ROLE PLAYING GAME. While combat has its place in a RPG its not the BE ALL AND END ALL of it. If thats all you want go play HL2 or any other 000's of other lame FPS's There is even a star wars one now called battlefront. This is a game BASEDIN theStar wars universe.not the game OF the films. Might a hard thing to grasp for you FPS players. But there IS a difference




RIP SWG April 27th 2005
Kameckobe
Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:22 am
#16




SWg is getting older and has an amazingly complicated customization system, so the server has to buffer every customization your character has, what they are doing, what they are wearing (and how its customized), what they have equiped, and the list goes on. most games htat cna hold that many people have awsome hardware and the level of customization isnt as high.




Exactly. Thats a reason why CoH never lags. The character bodies are simple, and the costumes are INCREDIBLY customizeable, but they arent stackable, you only get one of each thing or pattern. Where as in SWG, you might have sturdy boots, comfy slacks, a long sleeve shirt, a bandolier, a duster, and a hat.


I'm fairly sure that CoH just wraps the items to make a "skin" like the sims does. This still gives the same effect of high customization but there is never lag, even with 40000 particles flying around.


SWG has to load each thing, and arent "your character" but "on your character" seen in hovering belts...


Correct me if I dont get it but I think thats a basic idea.




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soal-farous
Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:41 pm
#17






Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:





Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:

a) quit whining, its technilogically impossible in this game to hold that many people in one place (your lucky that a CSR didnt start warping you all away)


b) get a better computer?


c) the GCW is borked, we need the patch (the majority of us who don't get lag will enjoy it)






Actually MOST people could'nt give a damm about the GCW and would like it removed. Its a total waste of time if you ask me NOTHING you EVER do in the gcw MAKES any difference and this patch will make NO difference to that fact.





you cant be seriously thinking this...no one wants it to be removed. the GCW IS this game...its what its all about. its the star wars. its waht all the movies (older movies) are about, not killing monsters and building stuff.if you dont want it then go play everquest.






Yes I am seriously thinking this and I want it removed and so doloads of otherpeople i know. NO the gcw IS NOT the game never has been and NEVER will be unless they turn this in to an FPS. What this is all about is a MMORPG. You do know WHAT an RPG is right ?? Its a ROLE PLAYING GAME. While combat has its place in a RPG its not the BE ALL AND END ALL of it. If thats all you want go play HL2 or any other 000's of other lame FPS's There is even a star wars one now called battlefront. This is a game BASEDIN theStar wars universe.not the game OF the films. Might a hard thing to grasp for you FPS players. But there IS a difference







You sir, a just histerically small-minded. It's quitefunny. And your grammer sucks.



-Soal-Farous Maccama, Gorath-
-Master Pistoleer, Master Bounty Hunter, Carbineer 0440-
"Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam."
I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head. - Latin Proverb.
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North2Chilastra
Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:37 am
#18

You sir, a just histerically small-minded. It's quite funny. And your grammer sucks.


And your spelling sucks.....HYSTERICALLY.....whats your point?
diepa
Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:00 pm
#19






Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:





Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:

a) quit whining, its technilogically impossible in this game to hold that many people in one place (your lucky that a CSR didnt start warping you all away)


b) get a better computer?


c) the GCW is borked, we need the patch (the majority of us who don't get lag will enjoy it)






Actually MOST people could'nt give a damm about the GCW and would like it removed. Its a total waste of time if you ask me NOTHING you EVER do in the gcw MAKES any difference and this patch will make NO difference to that fact.





you cant be seriously thinking this...no one wants it to be removed. the GCW IS this game...its what its all about. its the star wars. its waht all the movies (older movies) are about, not killing monsters and building stuff.if you dont want it then go play everquest.






Yes I am seriously thinking this and I want it removed and so doloads of otherpeople i know. NO the gcw IS NOT the game never has been and NEVER will be unless they turn this in to an FPS. What this is all about is a MMORPG. You do know WHAT an RPG is right ?? Its a ROLE PLAYING GAME. While combat has its place in a RPG its not the BE ALL AND END ALL of it. If thats all you want go play HL2 or any other 000's of other lame FPS's There is even a star wars one now called battlefront. This is a game BASEDIN theStar wars universe.not the game OF the films. Might a hard thing to grasp for you FPS players. But there IS a difference







You know how to make the GCW go away completely...become neutral. Then you can play in your starwars world without getting involved in the fight. But to suggest that the war be removed from star WARS galaxies is ridiculous


BlockadeRunner11
Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:04 pm
#20

/agree
and might i say: "booyah!" too?
Ackew
Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:16 am
#21






diepa wrote:





Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:





Ackew wrote:





soal-farous wrote:

a) quit whining, its technilogically impossible in this game to hold that many people in one place (your lucky that a CSR didnt start warping you all away)


b) get a better computer?


c) the GCW is borked, we need the patch (the majority of us who don't get lag will enjoy it)






Actually MOST people could'nt give a damm about the GCW and would like it removed. Its a total waste of time if you ask me NOTHING you EVER do in the gcw MAKES any difference and this patch will make NO difference to that fact.





you cant be seriously thinking this...no one wants it to be removed. the GCW IS this game...its what its all about. its the star wars. its waht all the movies (older movies) are about, not killing monsters and building stuff.if you dont want it then go play everquest.






Yes I am seriously thinking this and I want it removed and so doloads of otherpeople i know. NO the gcw IS NOT the game never has been and NEVER will be unless they turn this in to an FPS. What this is all about is a MMORPG. You do know WHAT an RPG is right ?? Its a ROLE PLAYING GAME. While combat has its place in a RPG its not the BE ALL AND END ALL of it. If thats all you want go play HL2 or any other 000's of other lame FPS's There is even a star wars one now called battlefront. This is a game BASEDIN theStar wars universe.not the game OF the films. Might a hard thing to grasp for you FPS players. But there IS a difference







You know how to make the GCW go away completely...become neutral. Then you can play in your starwars world without getting involved in the fight. But to suggest that the war be removed from star WARS galaxies is ridiculous






Actualy whats ridiculos is spendingloads of time and money on a feature that a ONLY asmall amount of people will use. Last astomech stats on how many people where rebel/imp or neturaland I'm sure there even less people than that now. It showed only 22% of people had chosen a faction.Thats leaves the VAST najority78% of peoplewho don't care about the stupidgcw.So why bother fixing something hardly any one uses or cares about. Once again this is a ROLEPLAYING game not an FPS. Why are youlot SOOO fixated on the WAR part. If you want to play WAR go play battlefront and leave US ROLEPLAYERS to OUR game.




RIP SWG April 27th 2005
diepa
Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:01 am
#22






Ackew wrote:



Actualy whats ridiculos is spendingloads of time and money on a feature that a ONLY asmall amount of people will use. Last astomech stats on how many people where rebel/imp or neturaland I'm sure there even less people than that now. It showed only 22% of people had chosen a faction.Thats leaves the VAST najority78% of peoplewho don't care about the stupidgcw.So why bother fixing something hardly any one uses or cares about. Once again this is a ROLEPLAYING game not an FPS. Why are youlot SOOO fixated on the WAR part. If you want to play WAR go play battlefront and leave US ROLEPLAYERS to OUR game.






Do you ever get tired of typing the same thing? This game is star wars, the war is part of it. Without the war the game or movies dont exist. Where did you pull that 22% stat? From a year ago? Was that on your server only? I know that about 80% of the active players on Lowca have chosen a side, mostly rebel but that is not the point. No one is telling you that you cant roleplay, but as a roleplayer how do you tell other players in a STAR WARS game that they should not be able to participate in the war as a rebel or an imperial.


But this is all about you, what is it that the developers should have been working on for you when they wasted all their time on this patch.


Ackew
Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:58 am
#23






diepa wrote:





Ackew wrote:



Actualy whats ridiculos is spendingloads of time and money on a feature that a ONLY asmall amount of people will use. Last astomech stats on how many people where rebel/imp or neturaland I'm sure there even less people than that now. It showed only 22% of people had chosen a faction.Thats leaves the VAST najority78% of peoplewho don't care about the stupidgcw.So why bother fixing something hardly any one uses or cares about. Once again this is a ROLEPLAYING game not an FPS. Why are youlot SOOO fixated on the WAR part. If you want to play WAR go play battlefront and leave US ROLEPLAYERS to OUR game.






Do you ever get tired of typing the same thing? This game is star wars, the war is part of it. Without the war the game or movies dont exist. Where did you pull that 22% stat? From a year ago? Was that on your server only? I know that about 80% of the active players on Lowca have chosen a side, mostly rebel but that is not the point. No one is telling you that you cant roleplay, but as a roleplayer how do you tell other players in a STAR WARS game that they should not be able to participate in the war as a rebel or an imperial.


But this is all about you, what is it that the developers should have been working on for you when they wasted all their time on this patch.







DoYOU ever get tired of typeing the same thing ?


The 22% stat was from the last astomech stats that showed who played what side and was for ALL servers. Have you asked EVERYONE on lowca if they have chosen a side. I think you will find most people are STILL netural. If not thats only ONE server out of 30 is it now?


Ifa load of pvp/gcw players can tell me if i don't pvp/gcw i should go play another game. I'm sure as hellcan do the same.


What should they of done instead of wasteing time on the gcw well how about the smugglers revamp or fixing any of the many broken profssions. Like carbiner.


This is NOT for me its for the VAST majority of people who ARE netural and don't care about the GCW or this forum because of people LIKE YOU and others who flame everyone who does'nt agree with them or that this game should be ONLY about the gcw when its only a SMALL partof it.


Actually if you want to get technical at the point in time of this game there IS no civil war. There is only an upriseing by a small group of people oppsed to the empire that is NOT a civil war. Now the war in ATOC/ROTS was a civil war this is not.


Message Edited by Ackew on 02-25-2005 06:02 PM



RIP SWG April 27th 2005
diepa
Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:23 pm
#24






Ackew wrote:






diepa wrote:





Ackew wrote:



Actualy whats ridiculos is spendingloads of time and money on a feature that a ONLY asmall amount of people will use. Last astomech stats on how many people where rebel/imp or neturaland I'm sure there even less people than that now. It showed only 22% of people had chosen a faction.Thats leaves the VAST najority78% of peoplewho don't care about the stupidgcw.So why bother fixing something hardly any one uses or cares about. Once again this is a ROLEPLAYING game not an FPS. Why are youlot SOOO fixated on the WAR part. If you want to play WAR go play battlefront and leave US ROLEPLAYERS to OUR game.






Do you ever get tired of typing the same thing? This game is star wars, the war is part of it. Without the war the game or movies dont exist. Where did you pull that 22% stat? From a year ago? Was that on your server only? I know that about 80% of the active players on Lowca have chosen a side, mostly rebel but that is not the point. No one is telling you that you cant roleplay, but as a roleplayer how do you tell other players in a STAR WARS game that they should not be able to participate in the war as a rebel or an imperial.


But this is all about you, what is it that the developers should have been working on for you when they wasted all their time on this patch.







DoYOU ever get tired of typeing the same thing ?


The 22% stat was from the last astomech stats that showed who played what side and was for ALL servers. Have you asked EVERYONE on lowca if they have chosen a side. I think you will find most people are STILL netural. If not thats only ONE server out of 30 is it now?


Ifa load of pvp/gcw players can tell me if i don't pvp/gcw i should go play another game. I'm sure as hellcan do the same.


What should they of done instead of wasteing time on the gcw well how about the smugglers revamp or fixing any of the many broken profssions. Like carbiner.


This is NOT for me its for the VAST majority of people who ARE netural and don't care about the GCW or this forum because of people LIKE YOU and others who flame everyone who does'nt agree with them or that this game should be ONLY about the gcw when its only a SMALL partof it.


Actually if you want to get technical at the point in time of this game there IS no civil war. There is only an upriseing by a small group of people oppsed to the empire that is NOT a civil war. Now the war in ATOC/ROTS was a civil war this is not.



Message Edited by Ackew on 02-25-2005 06:02 PM





Could you post a link to the last astromech stats you are refering to, not that I think you are making up that number, just want to see the official post. Even if this number is real(which I doubt..definetly not current) it will not be an accurate assesment because there are many players that have done lot trades(I dont have to explain a lot trade do I?). The characters that are created usually dont have any skills and have never been played accept to drop houses/factories and harvestors. Then you have the people that just decided that they didnt like the game after a month and quit, technically they are still players who are most likely neutral.


As for asking everyone on Lowca, of course not. Do I personally know 50-100 rebel players, yes. Do I know 20-30 imperial players, yes. Are there over 400 bases on Lowca as of last night, yes. This implies to me that there are people playing that have picked sides. I also see all the members of my faction(they show up purple not blue on map) and there are certainly alot of them.


I have another character on Flurry who just joined an imperial guild with 100 members. Theres a few that picked a side on another server. Bria is known as a PvP server...must be all the neutrals dueling.


As for fixing broken professions, those are all being combined with the CU, I am sure you have read a post or 2 about it.


Just because you dont want to roleplay being a rebel or imperial, and you dont want to PvP does not mean that "a VAST" number of players do not. I would bet if I put your post on the farStar forum you would find others that disagree that 80% of the players in the game are neutral. I just looked at some of the posts on your server, some praising the new changes, some recruiting imperials to fight against the rebels who have them way outgunned. I also found a player city post here is the link

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=FarStar_Euro&message.id=203457

there seem to be a few factioned cities.


For the record, I did not tell you to play another game. I just said if you didnt want to participate in the war go neutral. What I will tell you now is you can stop speaking for the silent majority because you do not represent their opinions.


Ok, I am done, I will not post on this topic again.

Message Edited by diepa on 02-25-2005 11:46 AM

Cdapolito
Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:30 pm
#25






Ackew wrote:


Actualy whats ridiculos is spendingloads of time and money on a feature that a ONLY asmall amount of people will use. Last astomech stats on how many people where rebel/imp or neturaland I'm sure there even less people than that now. It showed only 22% of people had chosen a faction.Thats leaves the VAST najority78% of peoplewho don't care about the stupidgcw.So why bother fixing something hardly any one uses or cares about. Once again this is a ROLEPLAYING game not an FPS. Why are youlot SOOO fixated on the WAR part. If you want to play WAR go play battlefront and leave US ROLEPLAYERS to OUR game.




Those Astromech stats are A.) old and B.) counted EVERY character created, all those characters that got made on another server to do lot swaps/trades with and then forgotten? They got counted.


I bought this game to ROLEPLAY in the GALACTIC CIVIL WAR, which I am pretty sure most others did too.


Now PvP is a small portion of the population, and that may have been what you were infering... but you did a poor job of it.






Itolia Rapo
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(I'm just a glutton for punishment)


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Zeon_Zaku
Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:35 pm
#26

What annoys me most about this patch is if you're a Rebel or Imperial and you're trying to do missions, it's really difficult. I was trying to get the Corvette ticket today (the instanced mission) as a Rebel, and of course the NPCs wouldn't talk to me unless I was a "combatent". So I went combatent, tehy talked to me, but of course I got attacked by every Imperial NPC in sight. I couldn't even get to the starport without fighting to Stormtroopers, then had to fight more before I could use the starship terminals.




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