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Thread: Defenses and stats only work if your holding a weapon??

da5in
Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:27 pm
#14





"Dodge" food (Air Cake, Pikatta Pie andFizz pudding)is a completely separate issue. Despite the confusing description, these are not a buff to the Dodge skill. It affects the chance of an attack missing you completely, although I'm not sure if it's a separate check, or an increase to the relevent Ranged/Melee defense skill. The Dodge skill has a chance to trigger only after an enemy gets in a "hit".


Hope that made sense.






I'm still confused. I'm a pikeman, and block is my defense. If I eat dodge food - then I have a chance of avoiding the attack - i.e. lowering the chance of a hit. If I get hit, then my block kicks in and reduces the damage taken?


So a fencer with dodge skill can eat dodge food and have 2 chances of avoiding damage all together?


BTW - I tried eating dodge food, and I never once saw a "you successfully dodged an attack" in my combat log. There were lots of blocks tho...


Still wondering...







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sciguyCO
Fri Dec 24, 2004 12:13 am
#15






da5in wrote:



BTW - I tried eating dodge food, and I never once saw a "you successfully dodged an attack" in my combat log. There were lots of blocks tho...




I think Staveeno covered most of it, but to add one more thing:


PIkatta Pie never adds to the chance of getting "successfully dodged an attack" in your combat spam. If you don't have that skill or don't have a pistol or 1-handed melee equipped, you'll never "dodge an attack". That's only from the Pistoleer/Fencer dodge skill. However, those foods should increase the number of "swings/shoots at you but misses" messages for a given number of attacks.


So without food, if you get attacked 200 times they miss 100, have 50 attacks blocked, and hit for normal damage 50 times.


With food, if you get attacked 200 times they miss 150, have 25 blocked, at hit for normal damage 25 times.


The above numbers are pulled completely out of thin air, and would depend on your normal Ranged/melee Defense and block skill. The leading theory is that the "dodge" foods (there really has to be another name to give those...) boost your defense relative to your normal ranged or melee defense.So players with high natural defense (Jedi, especially) appear to get a greater relative benefit.






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NuclearWookiee
Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:32 am
#16



Vidsa, read my first post again. I gave a scenario exactly like what you just asked. If you have +10 def vs xxx from rifles and +20 def vs xxx from pistols, then you have +30 def vs xxx when using a stun baton, scythe, rocket launcher or pickel for that matter. Instead of +10 def vs xxx and +20 def vs xxx, this is +0 def vs kd and +50 def vs kd. Any of the "def vs xxx" skills work constantly, regardless of what weapon you're holding. Melee defense and ranged defense also stack regardless of what weapon you're holding but caps at +125.

Message Edited by NuclearWookiee on 12-23-2004 12:35 PM

da5in
Mon Dec 27, 2004 2:22 pm
#17

Got it - thanks.





Tariv Caflaim ------------> Pikeman, TK, Brawler
Chief Warrant Officer, Storm Squadron Ace
RennTech City, Dantooine
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