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Thread: Nyax and Sif no longer spawning?
DankMohda
Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:16 pm
#14
Zalana wrote:
DankMohda wrote:
My theory on how looting should work. Everyone gets a chance, so if you have 3 people all engage the same mob then all three at the time of the mobs death get a "roll" at looting. 1 person may get an SEA, the other may get a crappy belt and the other may get nothing, but at least ALL had the chance to loot it.
I disagree, thats rewarding someone for losing, the current system works well and rewards the winner.
Complain about what exactly also? Its their toon to do with as they please, and if killing nyax ever 3:40min is what they want to do so be it.
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its you isnt it!? 
AEK
Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:09 pm
#15
You could always bring a doctor and give the other guy the WORST buffs possible before the other one does, find the worst resources, crafting station, etc... Might create a market for negative/low stat items 
Rubicon49BC
Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:15 pm
#16
Or you get a group together and outdamage them. Not too difficult I think?
WolfeTCK
Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:17 pm
#17
crappy buffs can just be buffed over
just out damage the guy, eventually he'll get the point and give it a rest
Dusk
Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:00 am
#18
Whats even worse?
This morning, as I'm making my way down to Lord Nyax himself, a Jedi runs in, aggros everything to the bottom, and proceeds to take out Lord Nyax (and everything else with area attack moves) in a matter of seconds. He then forceruns away.
And is there anything I can do? nope ....
NJ_Ragman
Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:29 am
#19
the worst part of this: don't expect a CSR to touch this complaint.
They will not do anything about afk combat macro looters, saying it's currently not against the AUP.
They just advise you to go elsewhere to find a static spawn etc.
So since this is basically the same thing, they're not gonna do nowt either i reckon. It's a sahm,e but unfortunately i think we're stuck until they realise that certain selfish players will ruin these things for everyone else.
Nyax and such other indoor places should all be instanced, to allow everyone a chance at it, and only make Nyax spawn if you get a specific mission to make him spawn. And then se the mission on a random timer from 1 hour to 1 day, so you can't time how long it'll be before you can get the mission again, etc.
They will not do anything about afk combat macro looters, saying it's currently not against the AUP.
They just advise you to go elsewhere to find a static spawn etc.
So since this is basically the same thing, they're not gonna do nowt either i reckon. It's a sahm,e but unfortunately i think we're stuck until they realise that certain selfish players will ruin these things for everyone else.
Nyax and such other indoor places should all be instanced, to allow everyone a chance at it, and only make Nyax spawn if you get a specific mission to make him spawn. And then se the mission on a random timer from 1 hour to 1 day, so you can't time how long it'll be before you can get the mission again, etc.
DankMohda
Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:56 am
#20
My theory on how looting should work. Everyone gets a chance, so if you have 3 people all engage the same mob then all three at the time of the mobs death get a "roll" at looting. 1 person may get an SEA, the other may get a crappy belt and the other may get nothing, but at least ALL had the chance to loot it.
Djena
Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:08 am
#21
Just make sure you are down there 2 minutes before Nyax spawns, maybe you'll have a chance then
BountysFear
Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:42 am
#22
DankMohda wrote:Here is the scoop on my server with Nyax. He respawns to the minute, exactly every 3 hours and 40 minutes. After constantly going there and him never being there, I set my toon there to see when he spawned, and sure enough, spawn time ended up being 3 hrs, 40 minutes. But what I noticed at the time i was waiting, is someone logged on got bufed and shortly after, he spawned, they ran down and killed him and then immediately logged of after exiting the compound. I found this be interesting, so I added this person to my friends listYou know what I found out? This person, literally, everyday for 1 week, was logging in everyday from server start to server shut down, EVERY 3 HOURS AND 40 MINUTES.This really began to piss me off, i would be out on dath and see him log on and then about 5-10 minutes later log off, every 3 hours and 40 minutes exactly. So, one saturday I decided im gonna ruin this guys day, because i did not feel what he was doing was fair. I woke up bright and early one saturday morning, the night prior i had logged myself and my Doc alt there, and proceeded to buff myself immediately, while i was buffing, sure enough, this guy logs in. I rush down there and killed him before he could. i set my egg tiemr for 3 hours 40 minutes and proceeded to go back each time throughout the day and outdamaged him for the kill. this guy wouldnt even hardly respond to tells, I think i pissed him off. I hoped I had proved a point and maybe he would stop, but no, for the nextfollowing days he began doing the same.Mind you this person is on my friendslist and this is the ONLY time he ever logs this particular character onA few days later, i stopped by there one evening and noticed a new person log in right before spawn time. So, out of curiosity, I added her as well. Sure enough, now both these two were logging on adn of every 3 hours and 40 minutes. So I decided, I would try and do the same thing to her as I did to the other guy in an attempt to discourage them from doing this.One problem.....She is a Master riflemen, who can shoot with Advanced Strafe, ONCE VERY FOOKIN SECION FOR AROUND 4500!!!I was not able to outdamage her..So for the past two weeks, Ive watched as these two log on and of every damn day from server start to to server shutdown, essentially ruining anyone else my servers chance of killing him.Something needs to be done about this......
Wow, someone does it for a week on another server and people start taking notice. Whatever server you're from, I advise you keep an eye out for behavior like this. Someone has been doing this for months now on Flurry, and it's been nearly impossible for anyone , including groups of 20 with 2 jedi, to outdamage this persons group. Nyax is dead to the flurry server.
Kharrissa
Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:30 am
#23
"Nyax and such other indoor places should all be instanced, to allow everyone a chance at it, and only make Nyax spawn if you get a specific mission to make him spawn. And then se the mission on a random timer from 1 hour to 1 day, so you can't time how long it'll be before you can get the mission again, etc."
These are good suggestions.
Why do the developers prefer the exploit-prone design?
Ryche_Mykola
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:13 am
#24
They should make Nyax drop nothing but melons for a month. See if that keeps people from camping the POI.
Yes what they are doing is against the TOS, but they login, kill Nyax, loot him, and logoff so quick there is nothing a CSR could really do about it unless they camp the spot also. Which is highly doubtful.
He drops the best loot in the game, period. Of course this spot will be highly camped. They need to up the level of his minions in the POI also.
DankMohda
Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:52 am
#25
according to CSR's in game, this perfectly condonable behavior and violates TOS in no way shape or form. Another crappy system, that players are abusing and that SOE doesnt give two sh*ts about
Ryche_Mykola wrote:
They should make Nyax drop nothing but melons for a month. See if that keeps people from camping the POI.
Yes what they are doing is against the TOS, but they login, kill Nyax, loot him, and logoff so quick there is nothing a CSR could really do about it unless they camp the spot also. Which is highly doubtful.
He drops the best loot in the game, period. Of course this spot will be highly camped. They need to up the level of his minions in the POI also.
kandee
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:17 am
#26
DankMohda wrote:
according to CSR's in game, this perfectly condonable behavior and violates TOS in no way shape or form. Another crappy system, that players are abusing and that SOE doesnt give two sh*ts about
Ryche_Mykola wrote:
They should make Nyax drop nothing but melons for a month. See if that keeps people from camping the POI.
Yes what they are doing is against the TOS, but they login, kill Nyax, loot him, and logoff so quick there is nothing a CSR could really do about it unless they camp the spot also. Which is highly doubtful.
He drops the best loot in the game, period. Of course this spot will be highly camped. They need to up the level of his minions in the POI also.
Unfortunately you are correct, the CSR's will tell you they are doing nothing wrong. If you check the flurry forums you will see we have had this problem for over 2 months on our server of one person camping nyax, this person even has the attitude that they will do us a favor and let us have 1 spawn perday if we behave nd dont flame them on the forums. After weeks and weeks of people complaining and threads being deleted, we finally did get a CSR to respond and go check it out, but the camper knew this and adjusted their tactics accordingly so as to not be found in violation... they continue to camp, they continue to sell the +25 tapes for millions and to sell on ebay and there is nothing we can do about it =( Best of luck to the other servers on this issue.