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Thread: Where is Thunderheart?

OmegusNeo
Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:39 am
#1

he was supposed to talk to us at some point this week and i have yet to see him post anything on the SL forum, has he? or are we going to have to go another week as iggnored as ever?




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Flookmastah
Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:41 am
#2

when did he say he was gonna talk to us? I never saw that...
OmegusNeo
Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:44 am
#3

DEVs chat last week



How do you improve the entire game, and one of the more useless professions at the same time? Well this is a start: Help Support the http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=squad_leader&message.id=10609>Fortification Proposal
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Flookmastah
Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:54 am
#4

the only mention of SL in the dev chat was from a player... the devs didn't mention anything about us (as per their norm)


I did see TH mention in a post last night that he was going to try to get through the "rest" of the professions next week... so perhaps we'll be in that group.

Flookmastah
Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:01 am
#5

here is the only mention of SL I saw in the dev chat:


*TimTheSloth* It has been over a month since the smuggler profession has had a specific developer comment directly or through our correspondent. When will smugglers and other neglected proffessions (SL, DE, Chef etc.) be able to hear specific answers to the issues and known bugs we have to deal with? Is there a program set up for regular reports from developers to correspondents?
(Thunderheart_) I am currently working on a program with the Player Correspondents. The Correspondents gave me their feedback on reporting and we will have something in place by the end of next week. Once we get the process in place I encourage you to work with the Player Correspondents to get all the issues to the forefront.

Felsspat
Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:21 am
#6

I don't know where he is but I doubt any dev ever looks at the SL forum
OmegusNeo
Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:57 am
#7

at the DEVs chat i PMed him about what his plan was for SL and he said it was coming this week



How do you improve the entire game, and one of the more useless professions at the same time? Well this is a start: Help Support the http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=squad_leader&message.id=10609>Fortification Proposal
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OmegusNeo
Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:09 am
#8

where'd he go? he was here a couple days ago, made two posts and then he vanished again?



How do you improve the entire game, and one of the more useless professions at the same time? Well this is a start: Help Support the http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=squad_leader&message.id=10609>Fortification Proposal
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Make us Useful!!!!

CaptainVemnox
Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:58 am
#9

Don't you realize that's all just fluff and froo-froo to make you keep your account active that much longer? I've been told I'm being talked to "next week" for a month and a half. I'm not sure what planet's calendar they use.



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Doremar
Fri Nov 07, 2003 11:22 am
#10

Actually, during a long thread on one of the main boards several weeks ago, Thunderheart promised squad leaders that he'd be posting another thread "later in the week" to collect information on our issues.


I can find it if you really want to see it.


Needless to say, there was no corresponding second thread.


Agreed with Vem, they use this strategy in many of their dealings, but most noticeably with Jedi. The carrot is so big and juicy, but no matter how hard you reach for it, it's always exactly two inches away.


Regarding calendars, a day on Mercury lasts something like 180 Earth-days... that would explain a lot.

TK933
Thu Nov 27, 2003 4:29 pm
#11


started this post on Wednesday but am just now getting it up on the board:


I was very angry off when I logged in today and checked the dev tracker. Thunderheart has posted twice to the Commando Top 5 thread, but we as squad leaders are still ignored. Enraged, I started this post, and then I hit the advanced search engine to gain ammunition for my rant. Here is what I found regarding posts made by Thunderheart on the professions forums, and other forums:


Squad Leader - 4


Commando - 3


Bounty Hunter - 1


Pikeman - 4


Chef - 2


Combat Medic - 2


Swordsman - 3


Smuggler - 1


Armorsmith - 0


Weaponsmith - 2


GCW - 24


SWG Discussion - about 240 (since October, around 420 total)


Dev Forum - about 60


I was shocked! According to the # of posts made, Squad Leaders and Pikemen have gotten the most "love." Thunderheart has posted our to professions 4 whole times! This really deflated my balloon. I kept thinking while I was checking the next profession, surely he has posted a lot on the commando forum, he posted twice today! Bounty Hunter's get all the updates so they must get all the "love." Pikemen are almost as messed up as Squad leaders, let's see how much love they get. And on it went.


What have I learned from this? It's not that Squad leaders are ignored and get no love, it's that ALL the profession boards are ignored and get no love! We actually got the most! There is something fundamentally wrong with this. Everybody is asking to know what is going on, and nobody is getting feedback. Even the two posts to the commando top 5 were about how Thunderheart is a commando and feels their pain. The poor armorsmiths haven't even gotten one post. At least post an acknowledgement that you have received our top 5 and are working on it. Communication goes in two directions and feedback is a vital part of any communication. You wanted to know what our top 5 is, we told you, now you have to acknowledge receipt of that communication, and restate it so that we know you received it. Then you need to say, "This is what is going on." in as specific a way as you can.


Apparently if you want to get feedback from a dev you have to post in the SWG discussion forum. We are told that this profession board is monitored, and it is, the proof is in the locked threads. How about a little positive quality feedback that the good ideas presented here are being heard? The only feedback we receive right now is locked threads. How is this community relations? Well it is community relations, just not good community relations.


This lack of communication is really torqueing people off, just look at the signs, read the posts, understand what it means. Let us know where we stand and what will be looked at to fix the profession.

Toga_Assasin
Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:20 pm
#12

Something else to consider in all of this is that, the devs aren't really monitoring these boards to get proposed fixes etc etc. Remember that our conduit to the devs is our coorispondents. While we may not seem to be getting any response but I don't think that you can accurately gauge that by looking at the prof board posts. The only way to gauge that would be the responsiveness of the devs to out coorispondent.
TheBratman
Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:04 pm
#13


I'm not sure if this is the correct forum, but.....



Where has TH been lately?


He hasn't posted since 2/2 so I guess he could just be on vacation.

Message Edited by TheBratman on 02-08-2005 06:07 PM





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