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Thread: Stat Migration For Comp Armor

Bartmann
Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:27 am
#1


Hi, this is my first post on the forum for help and probably not my last.I've been saving for about 2 months to get some Composite Armor 80% Kin/80% Elec/69% Base because I heard that its the best armor.Well I was so happy to reach the sale amount but then quickly dismayed to find that I can't wear all of it? My question is how can I change the stat migration enough so that I can wear all the armor at once.I've gone to the stat screen and slid the bars back and forth to try to get what I need but it still wasn't enough.Any help on this problem would be greatly appreciated.Thanks.
wpnzwolverine
Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:39 am
#2

To equip a full set of Comp armor you will need either buffs or food. I am not saying it cannot be equiped I am sure there is some out there that can be, but 99.9% of the time you will need buffs or food enhancements. On the armor it has a HAM requirement, that applies to your secondary stats. Also when adjusting your stats, you need an Image Designer to apply the changes you make,


Hope this helped you.



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Armafied
Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:43 am
#3

Well, you need an Image Designer to change your stats. Regardless, most ppl are unable to wear a full suit of Comp Armor w/o doctor buffs. If you were dead set on wearing your suit w/o buffs, you would need to get all of the pieces sliced by a smuggler and hope for encumberance slices. This can drastically lower the encumberance of the suit. Encumberance is also known as the weight of the suit or how much of a penalty it puts on your secondary stats. Anyways, after you get the armor sliced, you MIGHT be able to wear it if you had your Strength and Constitution changed to 700, your Stamina and Quickness to 600 and your Focus and Willpower to 700. This is assuming good encumberance slices for the major pieces (helmet, chest, pants) and a low beginning encumberance to begin with. Whatever you do, I'd recommend getting doctor buffs, as this is how the vast majority of ppl are able to wear their full suit of armor. If you are a human...you might think about migrating all of your stats into your Mind/Focus/Willpower and leaving the rest at 400. After your buffs for the remaining six stats, you should be able to wear ur full suit no problem. I hope this makes sense. If not, please let me know.



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RDX1
Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:51 am
#4

Not to mention if you are able to wear it without buffs, you will likely kill yourself using specials.



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certifiedandrew
Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:30 am
#5

You only need to wear 4 pieces: Helm, Chest, Gloves, and Boots. You will receive full protection from these. This is not an exploit, as all the decay that normally goes to your pants and arm armor is distributed amongst these 4 parts more quickly.



*edited by admin*
plonger
Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:30 am
#6

First, get the whole suit sliced by a master smuggler. You will either end up with better resists or lighter pieces depending on the slice you get (its random). Once you get this, add up the encumbrance shown for health, action and mind for each pieceand this will give you the minimum your secondary stats must be to wear that set of armor.


For example, if you add up all the mind encumbrances after the suit is sliced and they equal 505, then your mind secondary stats must be 505 or higher to wear the suit without buffs.
TitanTen
Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:03 am
#7






certifiedandrew wrote:
You only need to wear 4 pieces: Helm, Chest, Gloves, and Boots. You will receive full protection from these. This is not an exploit, as all the decay that normally goes to your pants and arm armor is distributed amongst these 4 parts more quickly.





This isnt true all the time. Try fighting an nightsister wearing that.



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-Anonymous-
Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:46 pm
#8

Before you get all stoked about wearing armor and saving your ass off for it... You only technically NEED 4 pieces:

Helmet
Chest
Boots OR Pants
Gloves

The other pieces aren't really needed because all it creates is 9 chances for a specific piece of armor to be hit. You will go through more armor faster with the 4 Pieces equipped but you can save a horde of credits if you buy individual pieces. And welcome to the Forums



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droid327
Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:38 pm
#9






TitanTen wrote:





certifiedandrew wrote:
You only need to wear 4 pieces: Helm, Chest, Gloves, and Boots. You will receive full protection from these. This is not an exploit, as all the decay that normally goes to your pants and arm armor is distributed amongst these 4 parts more quickly.





This isnt true all the time. Try fighting an nightsister wearing that.






Yeah some NPCs can find the armor holes; I noticed this when I was in the warren with my 4 piece comp suit, the cyborgs there were getting through on some attacks.



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Lil_T
Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:56 am
#10







TitanTen wrote:





certifiedandrew wrote:
You only need to wear 4 pieces: Helm, Chest, Gloves, and Boots. You will receive full protection from these. This is not an exploit, as all the decay that normally goes to your pants and arm armor is distributed amongst these 4 parts more quickly.





This isnt true all the time. Try fighting an nightsister wearing that.




I do. I fight all Nightsisters, includingsoloing Elders, wearing the four piece suit. WithElders I only have to watch out forthe bleeds and the damned stun batons (also power hammers, but thats just because I can't afford high base armour )


Having said this there are armour holes in the four piece suit, but asa Twi'lek with low mind secondaries I have to save as much encumbrance as I can, I'll takethe occasionalHealth and Action hit I can heal if necessary. Also I can and do wear my four piece suit unbuffed (when I havean encumbrance sliced helmet) and fight in it, I just don't use specials, strictly talking mid to low mobs for this though.

Message Edited by Lil_T on 02-08-2005 04:04 PM



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DeQuosaek
Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:47 am
#11







certifiedandrew wrote:
You only need to wear 4 pieces: Helm, Chest, Gloves, and Boots. You will receive full protection from these. This is not an exploit, as all the decay that normally goes to your pants and arm armor is distributed amongst these 4 parts more quickly.




Oh, I thought this included bracers, so I've been wearing those too... Hmm, maybe I'll try without them.



To the original poster, if he reads this again...


Armor has something called Encumbrance. It is based on how heavy the armor is and how much it slows you down or hinders your ability. Composite can be made stronger than other kinds of armor and is very heavy.

Encumbrance is taken directly from your Secondary Stats equally.
Health Action and Mind (sometimes referred to as HAM) are the Main Stats.
Strength and Constitution are your Secondary Health stats.
Strength affects how much Health your specials cost when you use them.
Constitution affects how quickly your Health regenerates.
TheAction and Mind Secondarieswork the same way. The 2nd stat affects how much your specials cost and the 3rd stat affects your regeration rate.


If your armor has a combined total of 700 Health Encumbrance, that means you need to have at least 700 Strength and Constitution since those are the Health stats the Encumbrance subtracts from. So lets say you have exactly 700 Strength and700 Constitution and your full suit of armor has a combined Health encumbrance of 700. In this example it would take 700 points away fromboth your Strength and your Constitution. That would leave you with zero of each. So having zero Strength will make your specials cost a lot more Health and having zero Constitution will make it regenerate much slower - hardly at all.


You can get buffs from Doctors for all of yourHealth and Action stats. They usually costbetween 10 - 15k to boost allthose stats at least +2000 points higher for about 3 hours or more. You can usually find a Doctor in the Coronet starport on Corellia or in Theed on Naboo or in Bestine on Tatooine. It's not a bad deal since you can take on much tougher missions and make more money than you could without them. With a high regeneration rate your main HAM stats usually regenerate very quickly and with a high specials cost reduction stat your specials hardly cost anything. Just be warned... they can be habit forming.


You can only boost your Mind stats by getting mind buffs from an Entertainer in a Cantina. You can usually find one in the same cities that have the Doctors, but they are in the Cantinas. Dancers can buff your Main Mind stat. Musicians can buff your Secondary Mind stats. You must be in a group with them and watch them dance or listen to them for at least 3.5 (or 4) minutes and then you must target them and type /stopwatching if you are watching or /stoplistening if you are listening for the buff to take effect.


And to migrate your stats, just adjust the sliders how you'd like them and then go to a player Image Designer and ask them toadjust your stats for you. They may charge a small fee and there might be a line. I've seensome charge up to 10k credits. It takes about 10 minutes for them to do this. You can usually find one in the Salon in Coronet, Theed and maybe Bestine. I usually go to the one in Coronet. To find the Salon, just exit the starport and keep running straight out from it and head right a little and straight again. Open your CTRL-M map and look for "Salon", or you can probably even type
/find salon
and just go to the waypoint it creates. You can also get some cosmetic changes to your character if you want while you're there like hair color, hairstyle, eye color, etc.


If you have any other question, just post 'em.

Message Edited by DeQuosaek on 02-08-2005 10:54 AM




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Flucka
Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:46 am
#12

One point that no one has mentioned is that you only need the buffs to actually put the armour on - once it is on it will remain on even after the buffs are gone.

You will have to deal with the awful encumbrance as people have mentioned but at least you don't have to mess about equiping & unequiping each time.



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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY
Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:18 pm
#13






Lil_T wrote:







TitanTen wrote:





certifiedandrew wrote:
You only need to wear 4 pieces: Helm, Chest, Gloves, and Boots. You will receive full protection from these. This is not an exploit, as all the decay that normally goes to your pants and arm armor is distributed amongst these 4 parts more quickly.





This isnt true all the time. Try fighting an nightsister wearing that.




I do. I fight all Nightsisters, includingsoloing Elders, wearing the four piece suit. WithElders I only have to watch out forthe bleeds and the damned stun batons (also power hammers, but thats just because I can't afford high base armour )


Having said this there are armour holes in the four piece suit, but asa Twi'lek with low mind secondaries I have to save as much encumbrance as I can, I'll takethe occasionalHealth and Action hit I can heal if necessary. Also I can and do wear my four piece suit unbuffed (when I havean encumbrance sliced helmet) and fight in it, I just don't use specials, strictly talking mid to low mobs for this though.

Message Edited by Lil_T on 02-08-2005 04:04 PM





what? The 4 pieces only work in PvP, where the people will be hitting specific mind/health/action pools. I have been grinding constantly for a long time, and always have to wear the FULL suit to get the full protection from creatures. But to answer the original post, as most people have said, its hard to wear a full suit without having to take some mind drinks and 2ndary foods. Best way to wear a full suit is to just bring down all primary stats to the lowest they can do, and distruibute the remaining points evenly to the 2ndary stats



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