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Thread: PvP guide 1.0.1 *Final revised version*
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Katchiko
Tue May 25, 2004 9:49 am
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This is my edited version of my PVP guide for starters. i have adjusted the BETA version i posted a few weeks ago and included some things people sugested and tested some other things again to be sure etc , anyways ,I want to start of by saying that all that’s included in this guide has been tested byME together with a few friends i used as '' testsubjects ''. I’ve put in allot of effort and time into making this. Please I can take constructive criticism but keep you unconstructive flame and bragging, or I don’t know what to yourself. If you know something better , Well power to you and I am humbled by your awesome uberness... I quiver in reverence.
I hope those who read this will discover new things and remember forgotten things about PVP and mainly I hope you’ll enjoy playing the game more even in its broken state
Finally before you start I like to offer thanks to my helpful friends who assisted me in some of my weird and obscure testing habits.
THANK YOU !!! : Beldaran ( armour & PSG’s ) , Kiriana ( combat ) , Future ( combat & dmg calculations ) , Novocain ( combat & food ) , Vendar ( spelling ) , Iglo ( VK’s & info )
And thanks to all the people I’ve battled I hope I posed a challenge and I’m sure we all enjoyed our time
Now lets start the guide.
Now lets start the guide.
*As a young man trains his battle stances over and over again, an old woman starts her lecture about the mind and hart of combat and warfare*
Ok now, listen carefully young one. All combat is decided with your mind, not your strength or speed. You observe the situation and use it to your advantage. You dictate the ebb and flow of the combat, because if you let your opponent control you, you have already lost.
*A strange expression comes to the face of the young man*
But, sensei, I don’t understand. If you attack, don’t you already control the situation?
*Smiling wisely, the old woman replies with a chuckle*
Let me explain myself. Let’s start at the beginning of all combat, preparation; a successful fighter is a prepared fighter. Put down your sword and listen to my words.
Preparation:
First off, in PVP you need to be prepared; this has many meanings, and I will attempt to touch the subject as broadly as possible.
Buffs: Very important, you will need enhancements to PVP nowadays. If you try without you will end up dead or incapped and laughed at, so be sure to get buffs from your local doctor.
Don’t forget to buff your Mind too! Very important and often overlooked, your mind pool is the main HAM bar most people will aim for, so it’s best that you buff it as much as you can. Musicians and Dancers give wonderful mind buffs. Dancers will double the size of your mind pool, while musicians will double your mind’s secondaries, focus and willpower. Getting both might be very hard these days with all the Afk’ers and hologrinders, but the buffs are very useful if you can.
TIP: To store an extra buff, watch a dancer or musician for 15 minutes (normal buff duration) or 3.4 minutes (speed buff duration using flourish macro), and after you’ve watched do /stoplisten or /stopwatch. Then watch or listen again and ask the dancer or musician to buff you again ,watch or listen him/her again for the duration needed to get 2 hour buffs
Go PvP (or whatever else). DON’T type /stoplisten or /stopwatch until your first mindbuff fades (usually after 2 hours). Then do /stoplisten or /stopwatch and your second mind buff will kick in. You’ll have new mindbuff(s)
Personally I prefer musician buff over the dancer buffs but that’s something everyone needs to figure out on his own (you can, if you are lucky enough to find both professions, have both). In PVP mostly you’ll use your mind HAM when doing specials therefore you want to have your focus buffed, and willpower for regen, a large HAM pool might look better, (dancer buffs) but a good musician buff will do much better in controlling your mind pool HAM use, and regen rate, if you can get both, you have the best of 2 things, and will have a very nice edge in PVP.
Food & Drink: There are various foods that can be used in PVP. I’ll only mention a few I’ve observed other people use a lot and the ones I use. I suggest you looking up a list of all the foods chefs make the on the net. Many sites provide more full detail, but I’ll go over the basics as best I can.
-Blue milk:
600-ish instant heal to your mind for 30-ish filing not often used but useful in a tight situation where you need that little edge over the opponent. (drink)
600-ish instant heal to your mind for 30-ish filing not often used but useful in a tight situation where you need that little edge over the opponent. (drink)
-Vagnerian Canape:
650-ish on focus and willpower, 33 filling, 9 minutes, a great help if you don’t have musician buffs, and even if you have, the effects can be very beneficial. It has a short duration true, but it also has low filling. Eat three of them on top of a musician buff, and believe me, even those FotM Riflemen will wonder why your mind remains full. (food)
650-ish on focus and willpower, 33 filling, 9 minutes, a great help if you don’t have musician buffs, and even if you have, the effects can be very beneficial. It has a short duration true, but it also has low filling. Eat three of them on top of a musician buff, and believe me, even those FotM Riflemen will wonder why your mind remains full. (food)
-Synthsteak:
43% Damage reduction for 42 attacks, lasts 23 minutes, 29 filling (most likely the effect will have been used up before those 23 minutes are over). This is a food that gives a very nice edge in PVP, especially if you’re facing a hard opponent like a rifleman with an ion rifle or various others that sometimes hit hard for one or another reason. This will reduce 43% of the DMG you take after your armour reduction has fully had its course. My personal favourite PVP food. (food)
43% Damage reduction for 42 attacks, lasts 23 minutes, 29 filling (most likely the effect will have been used up before those 23 minutes are over). This is a food that gives a very nice edge in PVP, especially if you’re facing a hard opponent like a rifleman with an ion rifle or various others that sometimes hit hard for one or another reason. This will reduce 43% of the DMG you take after your armour reduction has fully had its course. My personal favourite PVP food. (food)
-Thakitillo:
This will give something close to + 95 Defense vs. Knockdown for about 12 minutes at the cost of 44 filling. A Fencer or Pistoleer using this food is near impossible to ever knockdown. Posture down attacks will still work, however. (food)
This will give something close to + 95 Defense vs. Knockdown for about 12 minutes at the cost of 44 filling. A Fencer or Pistoleer using this food is near impossible to ever knockdown. Posture down attacks will still work, however. (food)
-Ithorian Mist:
This will give 20 defense vs. Dizzy for 12 minutes and has about 11 filling. Some people swear by it. I myself rarely use it, but it’s a good way to get extra defense against the Dizzy state. (drink)
This will give 20 defense vs. Dizzy for 12 minutes and has about 11 filling. Some people swear by it. I myself rarely use it, but it’s a good way to get extra defense against the Dizzy state. (drink)
-Citroncake:
This will add 40 to accuracy for 20-ish minutes at 28 filling. Most will wonder why to bother with this food. Well, try hitting a fencer with a Center of Being loop macro, and believe me, you’ll be glad you ate this. Basically, this will give you an added bonus of 40 to-hit on the weapon you’re using at that time. In the right situation, a good food. (food)
This will add 40 to accuracy for 20-ish minutes at 28 filling. Most will wonder why to bother with this food. Well, try hitting a fencer with a Center of Being loop macro, and believe me, you’ll be glad you ate this. Basically, this will give you an added bonus of 40 to-hit on the weapon you’re using at that time. In the right situation, a good food. (food)
-Vercupti :
1150 Health/Action/Mind for 7-ish minutes, 60ish filling. A highly unknown food and much underrated, in my opinion. Granted, it has a high filling but it can still be used in combination with synthsteak, making a very nice damage-proof HAM. Adding 1150 to each of your pools isn’t nothing, even on top of your buffs. Vercupti will give a big HAM in the right situation, a good edge. (food)
1150 Health/Action/Mind for 7-ish minutes, 60ish filling. A highly unknown food and much underrated, in my opinion. Granted, it has a high filling but it can still be used in combination with synthsteak, making a very nice damage-proof HAM. Adding 1150 to each of your pools isn’t nothing, even on top of your buffs. Vercupti will give a big HAM in the right situation, a good edge. (food)
-Aircake:
40 to the Dodge bonus, 23 minutes, 11 filling, used by Fencers and Pistoleers to make it even harder to hit them. If you’re a Fencer or Pistoleer, I advise you to use it in combo with a Center of Being macro loop. Then watch everyone miss you. (food)
40 to the Dodge bonus, 23 minutes, 11 filling, used by Fencers and Pistoleers to make it even harder to hit them. If you’re a Fencer or Pistoleer, I advise you to use it in combo with a Center of Being macro loop. Then watch everyone miss you. (food)
-Ahrisa:
400 to focus, for about 35-40 minutes, 33-ish filling. It’s a useful food, especially if you happen to use a lot of mind HAM for your special attacks. Frequently one Ahrisa will bump your focus up to the 1500 mark (where no mind is used for specials), even in heavy armors. (food)
400 to focus, for about 35-40 minutes, 33-ish filling. It’s a useful food, especially if you happen to use a lot of mind HAM for your special attacks. Frequently one Ahrisa will bump your focus up to the 1500 mark (where no mind is used for specials), even in heavy armors. (food)
-Vasarian Brandy :
420 to Mind/focus/willpower, 40 minutes, 50 filling. This is a must-use, no matter who you are or what opponent you’re up against. This is the mother of useful drinks. It explains itself in its stat bonuses, and given the fact that the mind pool is the primary PVP target, anyone can see why it’s useful. Not only does it boost you mind pool, but your secondaries, too. It has a lot of filling, true, but 2 can be consumed at the same time giving a powerful buff. (drink)
420 to Mind/focus/willpower, 40 minutes, 50 filling. This is a must-use, no matter who you are or what opponent you’re up against. This is the mother of useful drinks. It explains itself in its stat bonuses, and given the fact that the mind pool is the primary PVP target, anyone can see why it’s useful. Not only does it boost you mind pool, but your secondaries, too. It has a lot of filling, true, but 2 can be consumed at the same time giving a powerful buff. (drink)
These aren’t all of the food or drinks in game, but they are the most widely used ones that I know of from the people I know and have asked. The stats are based on what I just bought from a very good chef. I’ve seen some with better stats, but these are nice enough as it is.
Spice: I add this in case of emergencies. Spice gives you a temporary boost, but it has serious drawbacks. Only to be used in desperate times.
-Muon Gold:
500 to mind, focus and willpower for 10 minutes, Muon Gold is a nice extra help but BEWARE the 5 minute downer following the buff, which reduces your all three affected stats by 500. If you use this, find a spot to sit out the downer in safety
500 to mind, focus and willpower for 10 minutes, Muon Gold is a nice extra help but BEWARE the 5 minute downer following the buff, which reduces your all three affected stats by 500. If you use this, find a spot to sit out the downer in safety
-Neutron Pixie:
1000 Health, 200 Strength, 200 constitution, 500 action, 50 quickness and 0 stamina for 13 minutes. While useful at times, again BEWARE the 5 minute downer that will reduce your stats by the same amount as it increased them before.
1000 Health, 200 Strength, 200 constitution, 500 action, 50 quickness and 0 stamina for 13 minutes. While useful at times, again BEWARE the 5 minute downer that will reduce your stats by the same amount as it increased them before.
Armour : Another very important part of PVP is armour seeing as you want to reduce as much DMG as you can you want the best armour you can get. At this time, in game that’s composite armour.
Advanced composite with stats of 80 kinetic, 80 electric, and 65% base can mostly be made on any server, and by almost any master armoursmith. Now while this armour is good, you will want a smuggler to slice it on it’s effectiveness raising the base stats from 65% up to 90% as the max. Slices are random so unless you find an vendor that sells pre-sliced armour you’ll have a hard time putting a full set together.
Another point in PVP, 80% of the people you’ll encounter will use STUN DMG type. Seeing as composite is vulnerable to stun it will ignore your armour rating and thus inflict allot of DMG upon you. I recommend using stun layer composite, which has the following stats, obtainable by almost any master armour-smith 80 elect, 23 stun, 65%base. (You’ll notice kinetic isn’t high anymore because it will have moved to a base) Stun layered composite will not be vulnerable to stun DMG, and the Armourrating, light (AR-1) will work against some weapons I’ll go into this further down in this manual.
Top PVP players will most likely have a full set with stats in the lines of 80% elct / 32% stun / base 80-90 (after they have had it sliced of course).
note : Composite armour condition loss is the remaining dmg after AR and Resists reduction , divided by 10 , Example 500 dmg done AR1 reduces 50% = 250 dmg , base resists 60% reduction = 100 dmg , divided by 10 = 10 condition loss , So the higher the resists the slower it will decay . So short version 10% of the dmg that goes trough your armour will be subtracted from you condition
Decay & Insurance : Very important to remember, is to insure your armour, decay should be removed from game, when you PVP, but you can still get decay, if you are triple incaped, or sometimes by a disease, or fire DoT, or sometimes even none of the above, you just get decay. It’s strange, and has baffled me at times, but best thing to do is insure, so that if you get decay its only 1% and that won’t matter much.
*note : regularly check the condition on your armour be sure to get it repair when it hits 55% of total condition I’ve seen people who totally forgot that and when they finally checked there expensive 40% stun 90% base chest or helmet they noticed that it was down to almost 15% of total condition and when they tried to repair it , It broke and went to 1/1 condition ..
PSG’s : Personal Shield Generators, are an essential part of PVP, these will save you a lot in combat against fencer’s, and pistoleer’s. Fair warning unless you know an Armoursmith , or have a guild armoursmith willing to work for resource cost these PSG’s will cost allot of cash usually .
Go for the Max % resist shields, these can go up to 47% un-sliced, witch is nice, and decreases allot of DMG but most PSG’s have 3k condition, same rule as Armour applies here the higher your resistance the slower they will deteriorate with a slight difference in calculation on condition loss . Example : a Fencer hits you for 270 DMG , your PSG subtracts 199 DMG ( that’s AR1 & 47 % stun resist ) leaving 71 dmg that goes trough . Divide that DMG by 20 and you’ll come to your condition loss . or easier stated 20% of the dmg that goes trough is subtracted from the condition
*Note: I already calculated the PVP DMG reduction with the initial DMG so that’s 270 DMG in PVP*
*Note : PSG’s can be sliced to increase effectiveness if you want *
*Note: I already calculated the PVP DMG reduction with the initial DMG so that’s 270 DMG in PVP*
*Note : PSG’s can be sliced to increase effectiveness if you want *
Tip : click on your combat Tab and pull it to the right upper corner of your screen . this will make you able to monitor the combat spamm and will help you see how much dmg you take and what kind of attacks your opponent is using
Weapons: Your weapons are essential to combat. Know them, understand them, and use them correctly!! This means use the right weapon for your opponent. An energy-damage pistol won’t do much against a composite-armored opponent, but a stun pistol might!
Don’t waste your stun pistol’s condition on someone if the situation doesn’t call for it. If you see your opponent is wearing Ubese armor, pull out your Republic Blaster and let him eat energy damage. Basically, know to adapt to your opponent’s armour and know its flaws. 70% of PVP battles are done with stun weapons.
The other times one combatant has either an exceptionally made weapon that has such high damage that normal resists doesn’t matter or the person has a trick up his sleeve. Mostly, this evaluation is a trial-and-error kind of thing to learn based on experience. After a while you’ll get the hang of it.
Power-ups : there are many different power-up out there ask your local Master artisan to make you some and use em in PvP they’ll give your weapon an extra edge over others . Here are some that you will most comonly find on vendor’s
Ranged : Max / Min
Ranged : Mind / Speed
Ranged : Mind / Max
Melee : Mind / Speed
Melee : Mind / Max
Ranged : Mind / Speed
Ranged : Mind / Max
Melee : Mind / Speed
Melee : Mind / Max
*Note : I put Power-ups on with only 2 stats good artisans will be able to craft some with 3 to even 4 stats but other then 1 primary and 1 secondary stat all other stats ate they get on em are totally random *
Macros: Macros are useful in PVP, and thousands have been made. Some swear by their macros, and claim to have the ultimate macro and so on. Personally, I don’t use any extensive macros in PVP, but I will detail a few to give you an idea on how to make your macro. Your imagination will find ways to use your skills, I’m sure.
-CoB: Center of Being is a melee profession skill. Using it will increase your chance to dodge/block/counter-attack etc., plus raise your melee and ranged defences a little. A frequently used macro by all that have melee profession is to loop CoB.
You get this skill at novice brawler, and it will become better and longer as you progress into the elite melee professions. Here is how to make one:
Macro name : CoB
/ui action clearCombatqueue;
/CenterofBeing;
/pause XX (this is found by looking at your CoB duration skill and adding +1 to it for example 36 + 1 would make for a 37 pause)
/macro CoB (this will loop to the macro named CoB)
/ui action clearCombatqueue;
/CenterofBeing;
/pause XX (this is found by looking at your CoB duration skill and adding +1 to it for example 36 + 1 would make for a 37 pause)
/macro CoB (this will loop to the macro named CoB)
If you have a slow video card or connection and have regular difficulties with lag, you may have to switch the CoB macro to CoB duration + 3 to cope with the delay.
-Intimidate: is also a very useful skill in PVP, and I use this macro to use it.
Macro name: intimidate
/ui action clearCombatQueue;
/intimidate
/ui action clearCombatQueue;
/intimidate
Basically this clears the combat queue immediately, making sure you don’t have to wait until all your spammed attacks have cycled until you can intimidate.
-Bleeds: are also useful in PVP. Not so much for the bleed damage, but because 40% of the people will try to stop the bleeding or panic. Here’s what I use as a bleed macro.
Macro name: bleed
/ui action clearCombatQueue;
/healtshot1;
/healtshot2;
/ui action clearCombatQueue;
/healtshot1;
/healtshot2;
Yes, bleeds do still stack! I’ve confirmed this on several people and on Mobs. Bleeds will still stack. They were nerved on damage-per-tick, not on stacking, contrary to common belief. Also, bleeds now have powerful initial-strike damage. Healthshot2, for example, is a better attack than Bodyshot3.
-Deathblow : Furthermore in PVP, I don’t use any macros except that I make a macro for every special I can do and add the line /deathblow to it. Basically this works as a normal attack, but if you can deathblow your target, it will instantly, preventing the use of Force of Will or healing.
Macro name : Headhit3
/melee2hHeadhit3;
/deathblow;
/melee2hHeadhit3;
/deathblow;
Seconds are precious in PVP so DON’T waste them using the radial menu to deathblow a person!
-Warcry: Useful is a warcry macro this will buy you time to heal yourself, or if you see your opponent run from you to try and kite, you can delay him and run your own direction, making him come to you.
Macro name : warcry
/warcry1 (or 2)
/peace (very important or you’ll attack and your warcry will fail)
/warcry1 (or 2)
/peace (very important or you’ll attack and your warcry will fail)
Katchiko
Tue May 25, 2004 9:50 am
#2
ToolbarPane : Very important in PVP, is to know your toolbarslot by hart. Make it organised with everything you need on 1 toolbarpane if you need extra room for food and spice, or dismount, burst run etc. don’t put them in your main toolbarpane. Rather make a macro that switches to the next toolbarpane and use the toolbarslot there, then switch back. I’ll give an example.
The slots are numbers from 00-23 like this
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
And the toolbar Pane’s are the number on the top left of the slots ranging from 1 to 6 , each pane will give you a new set of toolbarslots from 00-23
[1] = 00
[2] = 01
[3] = 02
[4] = 03
[5] = 04
[6] = 05
[2] = 01
[3] = 02
[4] = 03
[5] = 04
[6] = 05
On toolbarpane00, toolbarslot 00- 22 are used by me with attacks and macro’s, 23 is a macro that switches me to toolbapane01. On toolbarpane01, my toolbarslot 00-22 are used for food, emotes and other non essential things on 23 there’s a macro that switches me back to toolbarpane00
Macro name : switch
/ui action toolbarPane01;
/ui action toolbarPane01;
Macro name : back
/ui action toolbarPane00;
/ui action toolbarPane00;
It is easy, and fast, and will free space used in your main toolbarpane by non-essential things.
Tip : have a macro going to a toolbarPane with IDENTICAL settings to your main PvP pane . because sometimes in all the action you’ll click on the toolbarslots to fast and they’ll act like you dragged 1 slot to another . If this happens hit the button that brings you to the reserve PvP toolbar pane and you’ll be al right instead of adjusting your toolbarPane during combat
Skills & Defenses: Skills and defenses are very important and should be known by heart, especially those you can use with your profession. Also know generally what other professions have. This will give you an insight into what profession you’re duelling when you see him using a certain attack on you, thereby giving you a chance to adjust your tactics.
I will go over some common defenses, because in SWG defense is king. In PVP (and PVE) all defenses are capped at 125 from skills! (It is possible to go over this cap with SEAs (for a total of 150 per skill maximum)}
-Melee & ranged defense: These determine if you are hit or not. The higher you have these, the more likely your opponent is to miss you. These are the first defenses that kicks in, and, in my opinion, the most important ones you have. As you can figure out, ranged works for ranged attacks, melee works for melee attacks.
-Melee & ranged mitigation : Damage mitigation takes the maximum damage of the weapon you are facing and reduces it by a percentage. There are three levels of mitigation for both ranged and melee attacks. Here's the breakdown of levels:
Level 1 damage mitigation limits damage to 80% of the range (20% reduction)
Level 2 damage mitigation limits damage to 60% of the range (40% reduction)
Level 3 damage mitigation limits damage to 40% of the range (60% reduction)
Level 2 damage mitigation limits damage to 60% of the range (40% reduction)
Level 3 damage mitigation limits damage to 40% of the range (60% reduction)
Damage mitigation works in both PvE *and* PvP, and it's a passive ability -- you don't have to activate it.
How does it work, specifically? Let's take two hypothetical examples, to make it clear using ranged mitigation
SR Combat: 80-140 damage range
Uber Krayt FWG5: 45-425 damage range
Uber Krayt FWG5: 45-425 damage range
The SR's range is 60 (140 minus 80 = 60), and Ranged Damage Mitigation 3 reduces this by 60%, to 24. The minimum damage is NOT effected, just the range, so the range is now 80-104.
The Krayt's range is 380 (425 minus 45 = 380), and Ranged Damage Mitigation 3 reduces this by 60%, to 142. The minimum damage is NOT effected, just the range, so the range is now 45-197.
What you should notice, from these examples, is that weapons with a large spread in between their minimum and maximum damage are the hardest hit. Weapons with a very high minimum damage aren't "mitigated" as much as weapons with a big spread between minimum and maximum damage.
In this example, for instance, the Krayt is hit a lot harder than the SR. Before the Damage Mitigation, the average damage of the Krayt was 235, which is around 214 percent higher than the SR. After the Damage Mitigation the average damage of the Krayt is 121 and the average damage of the SR is 92. The Krayt is now only 31 percent stronger than the SR, because the Damage Mitigation reduces its damage far more than it reduces the SR's damage.
Laser Carbine; 38-264 Damage (151 average) AFTER MITIGATION 3 = 38-128 (83 average),
a 45.0 PERCENT DECREASE
a 45.0 PERCENT DECREASE
T21 Rifle : 118-333 Damage (225.5 average) AFTER MITIGATION 3 = 118-204 (161 average),
a 28.6 PERCENT DECREASE
a 28.6 PERCENT DECREASE
Vibroknucker: 38-148 (93 average) AFTERMITIGATION 3 = 38-82 (60 average) ,
35 PERCENT DECREASE
* However : damage stats are increased by the Unarmed Damage modifier. In the hands of a TKM, damage is increased 250-250, which isn't affected by mitigation, leaving a 288-332 (310 average) weapon. Mitigation, in this case, gives only a 10% reduction in damage. This is the ONLY exception no other profession has this benefit
-Dodge/Block/Counterattack: These defences will kick in after your melee or ranged defences has failed, and your opponent hits you. They give a chance to avoid damage. They only work if you equip a weapon that is from the profession that gives the skill. For example you will only dodge if you’re holding a pistol or one-hand melee weapon, or block using a pole-arm or rifle, or counterattack using a carbine or two-hand melee weapon.
Dodge/counterattack : will prevent 100% of dmg but status attacks will still come trough
Block : will prevent 50% of dmg and status attacks will come trough
Block : will prevent 50% of dmg and status attacks will come trough
Important to know you can stack these up to 125 by using there melee or ranged clones i.e. pistoleer dodge stacks with fencer dodge, pikeman block stacks with rifleman block, swordsman counterattack stacks with carbine counterattack. TKM, with defensive acuity, has the short straw as that skill is working but doesn’t do anything after some essential parts where removed from TKM during beta. It works, but it does nothing. Yay! 
-Melee toughness: This is a damage-reducing skill only melee professions get, and it only applies when a melee fighter fights another melee fighter. The amount of toughness you get is the amount your skill with your weapon of that type gives you. Toughness is a straight % reduction of damage done to you in combat. The drawback is this only applies to attacks from other melee professions.
Most ranged fighters will “kite” melees. However, as you become more experienced, it will be more difficult to kite you. A good melee can keep ranged people close by.
-Defence vs dizzy, stun, blind, etc.: These are useful defences and the higher you have them the more difficult it is for your opponent to make a successful status attack on you. Fencer/Pistoleer templates are notorious for their incredibly high status defences. If you don’t have these, an experienced PVP’er will have a huge edge in combat over you. Be warned.
-Combat Equilibrium: This is a skill Teras Kasi and Fencers get that will automatically restore you to standing after a posture-down without flopping you on your back if you’re dizzy. If you have this high, anyone trying to dizzy/lunge to KD will be frustrated because you’ll get up every time laughing.
-Defense Vs posture change: There are 2 kinds, posture change up, or posture change down; most commonly used (99.9% of the time) is posture change down. Therefore, I recommend getting that posture change (down) defense high. Only Riflemen use posture change (up), and it’s only a defence against other Riflemen who are prone. As such, posture-up moves will hardly ever be used on you. They don’t matter.
-HAM specific attack skills: These are the ones you have to use in PVP. Why? Simple: HAM specific moves will concentrate your attack on one of his HAM bars, instead of all three, giving him less chance to regenerate, and letting you kill him faster.Mostly used, are attacks that target mind-pool like headshot3, headhit3, and the infamous eyeshot, but not uncommon are bodyshot2 or bodyhit3.
Some use random attacks to good effect, it mostly depends on your template, and your style. I know people using random hits like scatterhit or fanshot who can still be very effective in PVP. It all depends on how you play. Experience will teach you what to do.
-Accuracy:This will determine if you hit your opponent, it’s based on your accuracy vs. his melee or ranged defense. After that another factor involved is his special dodge/block/counterattack (I don’t know the exact formula but the general rule applies, the higher the better).
-Speed:In PVP, you will want to have your speed as high as possible because it will affect how fast you’ll do your special attacks. For example, a pistol with a 3.4 speed, with a skill of 40 on pistol speed won’t shoot at the speed cap of 1 second, instead being closer to 2 seconds.
The formula for weapons speed is (Weapon Speed x (100 – Speed skill)/100) x Shot delay. The shot delay information for special attacks is available on weapon forums.
*The young man woke up, grass still sticking to his face. He had fallen asleep during his sensei’s lecture and was now looking around, his senses startled by something*
I see you are awake, young one. Was my lecture so boring? Oh well, no use in repeating myself. If you seem so set on fighting, let me teach it to you the hard way.
*He had heard that his sensei was a warrior to be reckoned with, but that was 20 years ago. Now all he saw was an old woman past her prime standing with her walking-cane in hand like a sword*
But, sensei, surely I can’t attack you. If you got hurt, I mean, I am grateful you’re willing to teach me but I can’t fight you.
*A smile blossomed on her face*
*A smile blossomed on her face*
So, you think me weak and old, not capable of fighting now, do you? Has your short lifetime thought you all you need to know to judge your opponents? Has it, now? Hum, very impressive. Let me put it this way: if you don’t take your sword to your hand and attack me, you can go home now for I have nothing further to teach you!
*Hesitantly, the young man took his sword in hand and walked across to his sensei, figuring that if he would feint left and reverse, he could hit her walking-cane, spinning her on the floor. That would be enough and wouldn’t hurt her too much*
Ok, sensei, it’s your choice...
*They position themselves across from each other, each in battle stance, the young man with his sword in a frontal down position, and the old woman with her cane across her hip, in line with her other leg. They stand for seconds that feel like hours*
Here I come...!
*The young man shouts at her, lunges forward, and just as he faints left he sees a smile on his sensei’s face. She spins around out of the way, faster then he can follow. As he feels the pain of the cane hitting his back, he suddenly realises he did exactly what she had wanted him to do. He had lost the moment he had attacked*
And so we come to the next chapter Combat. I thank you all for reading this far, and I hope it was useful and helpful. The next section brings insights and common knowledge about combat.
Katchiko
Tue May 25, 2004 1:41 pm
#4
caddelite wrote:
This is all BS advice. The only important information for PVP you need to know:
Be either Master Doc/Rifle or Master Doc/CM.
When you get into the big battles, everything you posted goes out the door if you can't cure your own poison.
O look , what a wonderfull helpfull and apreciating reply . I meen you can see the time he had to think about his reply had to be long ..
let me do you the honnor to respond ..
1 : you dont need the ability to cure your poison . usualy if you do batles you'll have group members .. its your own responsebilety to take a Doc along , and protect him . the people who take CM as PvPtemplate in my opinion are the ones that usualy shout haha i woned you majorly . after they cloned 3 times . my solution to a CM is easy .get close whack the hell out of his mind . meditate ..sure in large battles that wont work but o look your suposed to bring Doc's along in large batle's..
2 : decides anyone will agree CMare overpowerd in PvPat this time .. they DON'T suffer the PvPdmg reduction everyone else sufforst .. some packs can be crafter with up to 96M range ( a rifleman only has max 60M range ) and whats the fun in trowing a poison getign killed clone run back out to trow a new poison on the person that killed you .. ?
3: dont know about you , but true .. if i wanted easy PvP i woudl probably have gone CM / rifleman or CM /something .but there NO challenge in beeing a CM most real PvP'ers apreciate a little challenge in combat ..I myself and alot of other PvP'ers on my server don't have CM in our template cause we all agree CM is a template used by Lame player , noobs or grievers . feel free to pick your own catagorie in wich you belong .also read the fist few sentences of the post i beleve you'll see i spesificly asked that if you realy wanted to be a smart ass you coudl send me a PM instead of posting .
in conclusion please get yourself a bucket , fill it with water and drown yourself . this was ment to help people not so you could get off by trying to prove your superior intelect .
bye and may you have fun playing the game ,
Centinela
Tue May 25, 2004 1:48 pm
#5
Dear Katchiko:
I just have one word for your entire post:
Thanks 
Even that i am not Combat player oriented (i am Master Artisan, wannabe WS), I am novice pistoleer. Maybe i will never win against a Doc/rifleman/CM, but this can help me alot to survive against those elite PVP in difficult moments.
I hope yo do not mind if i copy and paste all the info into my books... it is tons of info, and i am from Mexico City, so my english is not good enough to understand all clear, and i should need to read it many times and translate some words in spanish.
Great Effort, it deserves to be sticked.
Thx again
Regards,
Katchiko
Tue May 25, 2004 2:22 pm
#6
Centinela wrote:
Dear Katchiko:
I just have one word for your entire post:
Thanks
Even that i am not Combat player oriented (i am Master Artisan, wannabe WS), I am novice pistoleer. Maybe i will never win against a Doc/rifleman/CM, but this can help me alot to survive against those elite PVP in difficult moments.
I hope yo do not mind if i copy and paste all the info into my books... it is tons of info, and i am from Mexico City, so my english is not good enough to understand all clear, and i should need to read it many times and translate some words in spanish.
Great Effort, it deserves to be sticked.
Thx again
Regards,
see now this is why i worked hard to make this and the reson why i posted this guide ..
im glad i could help ..
Sranoka
Tue May 25, 2004 2:26 pm
#7
Verry nice guide , with detailed describtion of skills etc . Most have taken some time to compile .
/bow
i hope the the Derv's sticky this guide its a big help for alot of people im sure
Katchiko
Tue May 25, 2004 7:04 pm
#8
Sranoka wrote:
Verry nice guide , with detailed describtion of skills etc . Most have taken some time to compile .
/bow
i hope the the Derv's sticky this guide its a big help for alot of people im sure
Thx Sranoka i can only hope they will ..
caddelite
Wed May 26, 2004 12:42 am
#9
This is all BS advice. The only important information for PVP you need to know:
Be either Master Doc/Rifle or Master Doc/CM.
When you get into the big battles, everything you posted goes out the door if you can't cure your own poison.
Katchiko
Thu May 27, 2004 6:50 am
#12
Tamerlane51 wrote:
excellent post.......well done
thy .. glad people apreciate my effort .; makes me feel all fuzzy inside ))
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