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Thread: New Battle Droid Equipment: Lightsabers
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D3st0r
Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:27 am
#1
Blind Spin is a fencer attack, not a jedi attack, the droid probobly used a stun baton
Titan2000
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:27 am
#2
I have noticed this on several high lvl npcs. When fighting NS they frequently use lightsabre attacks with normal weapons. While out fighting an elder she used a stun baton and hit with cascade of hatred for 3350 points of damage and gave me dizzy/blind and stun and killed the two melee'ers with me in that one attack. I am jedi myself and recognise this as one-handed sabre flurry 1. It seems that they use all the sabre attacks no matter which weapon they have equipped, wether it be an LVA they use polearm sabre specials, two handed weapons are used with two-handed sabre attacks. The lvl of damage is almost unstoppable when they use a stun baton even with stun armor/ stun shields and synthsteak. Plus their ability to stack bleeds almost rivals that of player jedi exploiting the bleed attacks. I was ticking at one point for 1050 on all stats lucky i had first aid and a doc with me
ThorsAnvil
Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:16 am
#3
D3st0r wrote:
Blind Spin is a fencer attack, not a jedi attack, the droid probobly used a stun baton
he is saying its a lightsaber attack because of the lack of resist to the damage from his armor.
not because of the special used.
Pvt
Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:38 am
#4
You did not get hit by a lightsaber it's just a repear of the armor hole bug. It happens and happens to everyone in the area if it's an area attack.
The only NPC's that ever use Lightsabers are Dark Jedi and the Force Sensative Guardians at the Jedi and Dark Jedi Enclaves.
However another poster is right NPC's do use saber specials with normal weapons for some reaon. Mainly because they have high damage modifiers. Lightsabers are extremely weak now and the only way to do real damage with them is to use specials.
I have had similar things happen to me elsewhere and with my group. One time a friend and I were doing the corvette and were both attacking the same target. The target was an extremely easy kill one of the guys in the room that you collect the droid piece from in the storage closet at the side of the room. She and I were fully buffed with brandy synthasteak the works as we had just arrived and BOOM we were both insta-slain with no explanation as to why. We got hit hard by his sorry as noob dh17 carbine. We both were hit for over 4k damage and nothing mitigated the damage. It went right through the food, armor, damage mitigation, and toughness and we were killed before we even hit the ground.
The reason why they removed the NPC specials on accident was when they fixed the armor hole bug. Well they implemented NPC speicals again and now the armor hole bug is worse than ever. Goes right through everything and you get insta slain before you even get incapped it is completely stupid they need to get their **edit** together over there.
Banthabutcher
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:24 pm
#5
First of all, let me come right out and say I don't have screenshot proof with this. I didn't exactly stop in the middle of a fight to take a screenshot and the combat tab has a habit of filling up quite fast on the Corvette. Anyways...
I led a group on the Corvette today. This is about my 20th trip so I know pretty much everything in the Corvette by heart now.
Everything was good until we reached the infamous engine room. It was the neutral assassination mission and there was only 3 SBDs in the room with 2 Battle Droids. We decided we could easily handle them, so opted to destroy the droids rather than the original "distract and hit the terminal" tactic. The first Battle Droid fell quickly and we started on the second. That's when things turned ugly...
The first flag was when I suddenly lost 2000 HAM and got hit with a dizzy. I just figured it was the SBD shooting at me, so I kept on attacking. Suddenly the entire group drops dead, including me. After blinking in disbelief, we all starting to (angrily)discuss what happened. A quick glance at the combat tab shows what happened (kicking myself for not taking a screenshot):
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin on [group member]for 3812 points of damage!
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin on [group member] for2987 points of damage!
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin on [group member] for4123 points of damage!
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin onyou for2996 points of damage!
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin on [group member] for3112 points of damage!
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin on [group member] for2459 points of damage!
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin on [group member] for4981 points of damage!
A Battle Droid uses Blind Spin on [group member] for 3111 points of damage!
Most importantly, no message about Composite Chest absorbes 2983 points of damage. The attack went right through all of our armor and Personal Shield Generators. Our armor had high resists (80%-ish) to everything but stun, and I know I at least had my PSG with 36% resist to stun. There was only one damage type we didn't have resists to:
Lightsaber.
Also, after a quick run by the guild Jedi, it seems Blind Spin is the attack given in One Handed Saber 3 (I believe that's what he said).
I don't know if this was intended or not, but it's kind of rediculous if it is.
So, in short, advice to those doing Corvette runs: watch out for the Battle Droids (that's the normal Battle Droids, not the SBDs).
Also, let me take this opporunity to remind the devs reading this to rescale the dungeons as you make tweaks to the combat system. 20 SBDs on the Corvette might be ok for now, but it's over-the-top overkill once the armor or buff nerfs hit.
MenaBen-Hez
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:37 pm
#6
This happened to me the other day as well, although I was hit for between 4k and 12k damage, through armour sliced to 80% on all stats except stun and LS, synthSteak and all the rest. I figured armour hole... Managed to complete the mission anyway (naked and no buffs )
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Roeding
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:48 pm
#7
I'm not very surprised, often neither the damage type nor special attacks used by NPC seem to correlate to the actual weapon used.
Don't worry though it will probably get fixed within the next two years 
Tricki
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:57 pm
#8
Roeding wrote:
Don't worry though it will probably get fixed within the next two years
Probably is not the word... Possibly would be more realistic...
Armor is behaving a little erratically for the last weeks... either working to well or not applying...
Banthabutcher
Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:03 pm
#9
First of all, it wasn't a stun baton, because it ignored the Stun resist on my PSG.
Second of all, I seriously doubt it's an armor hole. All the attacks, not just Blind Spin (Skull Slash and the normal attacks as well),went through the armor for everyone. Not only that, but you've had an exact duplicate situation. The armor hole problem right now is completely random and for it to happen at the exact point and time witht he same mob on two separatesituations is anything but random.
Pvt
Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:08 pm
#10
Banthabutcher wrote:
First of all, it wasn't a stun baton, because it ignored the Stun resist on my PSG.
Second of all, I seriously doubt it's an armor hole. All the attacks, not just Blind Spin (Skull Slash and the normal attacks as well),went through the armor for everyone. Not only that, but you've had an exact duplicate situation. The armor hole problem right now is completely random and for it to happen at the exact point and time witht he same mob on two separatesituations is anything but random.
Are you still saying they are using a lightsaber? Lmao. They aren't using sabers dude it's a bug. Something in the game......... try the entire damage mitigation system.... jus shuts off completely and randomly. It didn't happen to just me it has happened to many before and it to my friend and I on the corvette. It's been termed the armor hole bug because it is in fact a bug and acts as if there is a complete hole in your armor. Armor meaning everything, shield gen, personal armor, damage mitigation, food, toughness. The defense system just shuts off sometimes during combat.
Just keep bugging them about it and maybe in 2008 when the combat revamp is released they may have time to try and fix it again. If you haven't learned by now the Dev's "Fixing" something means that they are breaking something else. Eventually we have to just take the good with the bad.. that is once they do something good for a change.
Banthabutcher
Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:55 pm
#11
/cough
I'm using Lightsabers as a figure of speech since it was the only vuln we had.
"It was like they were using lightsabers."
D3st0r
Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:15 pm
#12
lol in your original post you said it used a Lightsaber attack, which it didnt. It used a fencer attack, prob with a stun baton, and just hit for huge damage. Btw, if you didnt unequip/re-equip your PSG when you ported onto the vette, it wouldnt have made any difference, you have to re-equip them everytime you travel.
Darkatrina
Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:15 pm
#13
we have ran loads of vette missions for ages however lately everytime we try an assasin one we get creamed. I was one shot twice last night being hiut once for 7k through energy resist comp, synth and a psg. Theres either an armour hole or the damge they do has gone off the scale
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