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Thread: WARNING!!!! Possible exploit to kill Jedi!

JenTara
Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:54 pm
#1

I am NOT aware if this will actually work, if anyone would be willing to help me test it on the test server, please tell me and we can work with the developers to "test" this so they can know if it needs to be fixed... We need to find out if my "idea" will work, and if it will, STOP IT... Before I tell my idea, any bounty hunters that do this on the live servers, especially after hearing about it from me, I beleive should be BANNED from the game, period. This is a gross exploit, and my intention is to prevent it from ever happening if it can, not to tell you an easy way to kill Jedi... Ok... so here's a little "scenario" to illustrate my idea.


Imperial Bounty Hunter gets a contract for Jen'tara (i'll just use my character's name). He finds her, and isn't wearing his bounty hunter title. He walks up to her with his stormtrooper, TK-421.


BountyHunter: Hey, Jen'tara? Would you happen to bea jedi? I have a question...

Jen'tara: What makes you think I am a jedi?

TK-421: I heard that you seditious scum!


TK-421 proceeds to immediately incapactate Jen'tara, gives her 400 BF, 400 Mind wounds, 100 Imperial faction loss, and a 10000 credit fine. BountyHunter then delivers the deatblow that his contract allows him to do. Bingo! Easy kill.


For those that don't know, I put the offending phrase in red. Saying this in front of an Imperial NPC will do that, and pets are no exception when you slap them or whatever, so I assume they are teh same in this regard also. For the record also saying you want to be a jedi will get you beat down too.


Please, developers, get this tested, or something, I'll help if I must, although currently I don't have any jedi on the test servers, so you might work with a current jedi there to refund them their experience if they will help you "test" this... and again, I beleive any bounty hunter that does this if it will work, especially after reading my post about it, should be BANNED.



Jen'tara Rhee - Force-sensitive Twi'lek - Elder Teras Kasi/ Elder Pikewoman / Jedi / Imperial Pilot (Imperial Inquisition)- Intrepid

Racquel Babylon - Force-sensitive Human - Teras Kasi Elder / Elder Dancer / Master Entertainer / Alliance Pilot (Vortex) - Bria

Teavai Ynai - Force-sensitive Zabrak - Elder Bounty Hunter / Elder Creature Handler / Bounty Hunter / Freelance Pilot (Smuggler's Alliance) - Kettemoor


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AelricMistrider
Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:58 pm
#2

Jedi are supposed to be in hiding or hunted, so..uhh..maybe you shouldn't mention the "J" word when stopped by a stormtrooper, etc, etc.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like common sense.




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Zoner2002
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:00 pm
#3

Doesn't always work, I tried that at a battlefield and got no response or incap, tho I haven't tried it infront of a player imp pet



 
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ReekoShan
Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:43 pm
#4

maybe it matters if ur an imp? because im imp and i said it around many Imp NPC and got no reaction



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Voave25
Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:07 pm
#5






ReekoShan wrote:

maybe it matters if ur an imp? because im imp and i said it around many Imp NPC and got no reaction






Same here.
JenTara
Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:23 pm
#6

Rank might matter... My character Jentara is a Staff Corporal in the Empire, Flying Officer in the Imperial Inquisition, and I was at the Emperor's Retreat when I "dropped a tell" saying I wanted to be a jedi, and the tie pilot that hangs out by the Imperial Pilot Trainer fined me and slapped me upside the head


Basically, as I said, i don't know if this "exploit" would work or not, but I think it needs to be found out, and if it can work, fix it. I know saying you are a jedi is stupid, but... what if you say perfectly innocent stuff, like "What makes you think I am a jedi?" If anything, the bounty hunter should be punched for asking, but he won't be, I know that... I tested it... saying the word jedi does not get you hit... it's saying you want to be or are a jedi... I've not (and will not, don't want to pay another 10k fine) tested if asking like what makes you think I am a jedi will get you hit... but I did test saying "I hate jedi" and no problem there.



Jen'tara Rhee - Force-sensitive Twi'lek - Elder Teras Kasi/ Elder Pikewoman / Jedi / Imperial Pilot (Imperial Inquisition)- Intrepid

Racquel Babylon - Force-sensitive Human - Teras Kasi Elder / Elder Dancer / Master Entertainer / Alliance Pilot (Vortex) - Bria

Teavai Ynai - Force-sensitive Zabrak - Elder Bounty Hunter / Elder Creature Handler / Bounty Hunter / Freelance Pilot (Smuggler's Alliance) - Kettemoor


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Ialwysdie
Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:23 pm
#7






JenTara wrote:

I am NOT aware if this will actually work, if anyone would be willing to help me test it on the test server, please tell me and we can work with the developers to "test" this so they can know if it needs to be fixed... We need to find out if my "idea" will work, and if it will, STOP IT... Before I tell my idea, any bounty hunters that do this on the live servers, especially after hearing about it from me, I beleive should be BANNED from the game, period. This is a gross exploit, and my intention is to prevent it from ever happening if it can, not to tell you an easy way to kill Jedi... Ok... so here's a little "scenario" to illustrate my idea.


Imperial Bounty Hunter gets a contract for Jen'tara (i'll just use my character's name). He finds her, and isn't wearing his bounty hunter title. He walks up to her with his stormtrooper, TK-421.


BountyHunter: Hey, Jen'tara? Would you happen to bea jedi? I have a question...

Jen'tara: What makes you think I am a jedi?

TK-421: I heard that you seditious scum!


TK-421 proceeds to immediately incapactate Jen'tara, gives her 400 BF, 400 Mind wounds, 100 Imperial faction loss, and a 10000 credit fine. BountyHunter then delivers the deatblow that his contract allows him to do. Bingo! Easy kill.


For those that don't know, I put the offending phrase in red. Saying this in front of an Imperial NPC will do that, and pets are no exception when you slap them or whatever, so I assume they are teh same in this regard also. For the record also saying you want to be a jedi will get you beat down too.


Please, developers, get this tested, or something, I'll help if I must, although currently I don't have any jedi on the test servers, so you might work with a current jedi there to refund them their experience if they will help you "test" this... and again, I beleive any bounty hunter that does this if it will work, especially after reading my post about it, should be BANNED.





If this does work IMO the Jedi that get's killed by it deserves to die.


Go ahead with your tests to see if this would work but the probabability of it happening often are very unlikely.


For one if I wasa Jedi and a Overt IMP came up to me with his ST companion I don't think I would be sticking around for idle chat about being a Jedi.


If a Jedi dies from his own stupidityit'sNOT AN EXPLOIT!!!!


JenTara
Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:29 pm
#8






Ialwysdie wrote:





JenTara wrote:

I am NOT aware if this will actually work, if anyone would be willing to help me test it on the test server, please tell me and we can work with the developers to "test" this so they can know if it needs to be fixed... We need to find out if my "idea" will work, and if it will, STOP IT... Before I tell my idea, any bounty hunters that do this on the live servers, especially after hearing about it from me, I beleive should be BANNED from the game, period. This is a gross exploit, and my intention is to prevent it from ever happening if it can, not to tell you an easy way to kill Jedi... Ok... so here's a little "scenario" to illustrate my idea.


Imperial Bounty Hunter gets a contract for Jen'tara (i'll just use my character's name). He finds her, and isn't wearing his bounty hunter title. He walks up to her with his stormtrooper, TK-421.


BountyHunter: Hey, Jen'tara? Would you happen to bea jedi? I have a question...

Jen'tara: What makes you think I am a jedi?

TK-421: I heard that you seditious scum!


TK-421 proceeds to immediately incapactate Jen'tara, gives her 400 BF, 400 Mind wounds, 100 Imperial faction loss, and a 10000 credit fine. BountyHunter then delivers the deatblow that his contract allows him to do. Bingo! Easy kill.


For those that don't know, I put the offending phrase in red. Saying this in front of an Imperial NPC will do that, and pets are no exception when you slap them or whatever, so I assume they are teh same in this regard also. For the record also saying you want to be a jedi will get you beat down too.


Please, developers, get this tested, or something, I'll help if I must, although currently I don't have any jedi on the test servers, so you might work with a current jedi there to refund them their experience if they will help you "test" this... and again, I beleive any bounty hunter that does this if it will work, especially after reading my post about it, should be BANNED.





If this does work IMO the Jedi that get's killed by it deserves to die.


Go ahead with your tests to see if this would work but the probabability of it happening often are very unlikely.


For one if I wasa Jedi and a Overt IMP came up to me with his ST companion I don't think I would be sticking around for idle chat about being a Jedi.


If a Jedi dies from his own stupidityit'sNOT AN EXPLOIT!!!!






The thing is, if he said "I am a jedi" in that respect, sure... but common talking and such... what if you ARE an Imperial Jedi? Or, what if you are taking to a friend and drop a tell, I'm just saying that this IS an exploit if it allows a bounty hunter to instantly incapacitate a Jedi he would otherwise stand no chance in combat against... PERSONALLY, I don't like the "instant incapacitation" at all... but that's not what this is about right now... but I do think that if my character can kill stormtroopers all day and not break a sweat, why should one be able to instantly knock her out when all she did was insult him? If ANYTHING it should get you a TEF only to him... instant incapacitation is just too much, and in this case COULD lead to an exploit...




Jen'tara Rhee - Force-sensitive Twi'lek - Elder Teras Kasi/ Elder Pikewoman / Jedi / Imperial Pilot (Imperial Inquisition)- Intrepid

Racquel Babylon - Force-sensitive Human - Teras Kasi Elder / Elder Dancer / Master Entertainer / Alliance Pilot (Vortex) - Bria

Teavai Ynai - Force-sensitive Zabrak - Elder Bounty Hunter / Elder Creature Handler / Bounty Hunter / Freelance Pilot (Smuggler's Alliance) - Kettemoor


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Ialwysdie
Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:59 pm
#9






JenTara wrote:





Ialwysdie wrote:





JenTara wrote:

I am NOT aware if this will actually work, if anyone would be willing to help me test it on the test server, please tell me and we can work with the developers to "test" this so they can know if it needs to be fixed... We need to find out if my "idea" will work, and if it will, STOP IT... Before I tell my idea, any bounty hunters that do this on the live servers, especially after hearing about it from me, I beleive should be BANNED from the game, period. This is a gross exploit, and my intention is to prevent it from ever happening if it can, not to tell you an easy way to kill Jedi... Ok... so here's a little "scenario" to illustrate my idea.


Imperial Bounty Hunter gets a contract for Jen'tara (i'll just use my character's name). He finds her, and isn't wearing his bounty hunter title. He walks up to her with his stormtrooper, TK-421.


BountyHunter: Hey, Jen'tara? Would you happen to bea jedi? I have a question...

Jen'tara: What makes you think I am a jedi?

TK-421: I heard that you seditious scum!


TK-421 proceeds to immediately incapactate Jen'tara, gives her 400 BF, 400 Mind wounds, 100 Imperial faction loss, and a 10000 credit fine. BountyHunter then delivers the deatblow that his contract allows him to do. Bingo! Easy kill.


For those that don't know, I put the offending phrase in red. Saying this in front of an Imperial NPC will do that, and pets are no exception when you slap them or whatever, so I assume they are teh same in this regard also. For the record also saying you want to be a jedi will get you beat down too.


Please, developers, get this tested, or something, I'll help if I must, although currently I don't have any jedi on the test servers, so you might work with a current jedi there to refund them their experience if they will help you "test" this... and again, I beleive any bounty hunter that does this if it will work, especially after reading my post about it, should be BANNED.





If this does work IMO the Jedi that get's killed by it deserves to die.


Go ahead with your tests to see if this would work but the probabability of it happening often are very unlikely.


For one if I wasa Jedi and a Overt IMP came up to me with his ST companion I don't think I would be sticking around for idle chat about being a Jedi.


If a Jedi dies from his own stupidityit'sNOT AN EXPLOIT!!!!






The thing is, if he said "I am a jedi" in that respect, sure... but common talking and such... what if you ARE an Imperial Jedi? Or, what if you are taking to a friend and drop a tell, I'm just saying that this IS an exploit if it allows a bounty hunter to instantly incapacitate a Jedi he would otherwise stand no chance in combat against... PERSONALLY, I don't like the "instant incapacitation" at all... but that's not what this is about right now... but I do think that if my character can kill stormtroopers all day and not break a sweat, why should one be able to instantly knock her out when all she did was insult him? If ANYTHING it should get you a TEF only to him... instant incapacitation is just too much, and in this case COULD lead to an exploit...






Too many What if's


I agree it would be a pretty screwed up scenario but all i see is this is an exploit, this is considered greifing. Now who's to say that a BH is tracking a mark and the mark gets incapped by a ST cuz he's goofing around with the ST NPC in a city. BH shows up DB's him.


Now you say COULD lead to an exploit. You already deem it one and want the ban hammer to start swinging.


IMO if aJedi doesn't have the common sense to keep the "J" word out of his conversation's in front ofIMP faction NPC's it's his own undoing.

Message Edited by Ialwysdie on 11-22-2004 09:00 PM

Distaste
Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:02 pm
#10

well from my experiance slapping an imp officer in the MO with a full buff and a mind buff i only got fined.
Ixtli
Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:06 pm
#11






JenTara wrote:

I am NOT aware if this will actually work, if anyone would be willing to help me test it on the test server, please tell me and we can work with the developers to "test" this so they can know if it needs to be fixed... We need to find out if my "idea" will work, and if it will, STOP IT... Before I tell my idea, any bounty hunters that do this on the live servers, especially after hearing about it from me, I beleive should be BANNED from the game, period. This is a gross exploit, and my intention is to prevent it from ever happening if it can, not to tell you an easy way to kill Jedi... Ok... so here's a little "scenario" to illustrate my idea.


Imperial Bounty Hunter gets a contract for Jen'tara (i'll just use my character's name). He finds her, and isn't wearing his bounty hunter title. He walks up to her with his stormtrooper, TK-421.


BountyHunter: Hey, Jen'tara? Would you happen to bea jedi? I have a question...

Jen'tara: What makes you think I am a jedi?

TK-421: I heard that you seditious scum!


TK-421 proceeds to immediately incapactate Jen'tara, gives her 400 BF, 400 Mind wounds, 100 Imperial faction loss, and a 10000 credit fine. BountyHunter then delivers the deatblow that his contract allows him to do. Bingo! Easy kill.


For those that don't know, I put the offending phrase in red. Saying this in front of an Imperial NPC will do that, and pets are no exception when you slap them or whatever, so I assume they are teh same in this regard also. For the record also saying you want to be a jedi will get you beat down too.


Please, developers, get this tested, or something, I'll help if I must, although currently I don't have any jedi on the test servers, so you might work with a current jedi there to refund them their experience if they will help you "test" this... and again, I beleive any bounty hunter that does this if it will work, especially after reading my post about it, should be BANNED.







I would like to know why Jedi and constantly hunted down by bounty hunters in the first place? Just seems to me that it's so unnecessary and like wild spawn so much over-kill.


I had watched Star Wars - The Clone Wars for the second time since making the purchase last week. What gets me is the fact that through-out the movie Jedi were refered to as "Keepers of the Peace". However, in Star Wars Galaxies it seems a common theme that they are hunted down by bounty hunters like they are common criminals.


I have saw also in the last publish in which they have fixed it so that a Jedi cannot logout to drop off a parabot tracking sensors. That being the case, where does that leave the Jedi? Who knows?




May the force be with you, always...

Ixtli
Master Doctor, Teras Kasi Master
Otegu123
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:32 am
#12


any jedi that gets incapped from that, doesnt have high enough mind







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JackholeSWG
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:42 am
#13

LAFF!
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