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Thread: master sword or master rifle
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Gaabreal
Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:59 pm
#1
which is best to do this with? im also currently a master doc. thanx in advance.
Ialwysdie
Sun Nov 14, 2004 10:49 pm
#2
Gaabreal wrote:
which is best to do this with? im also currently a master doc. thanx in advance.
I have Both.
If i had to make a choice I personally can cap my swordsman XP faster than my rifleman XP.
I used speedsliced PH and Speed Sliced T21as I'm not speedcapped in either profession and do Dantooine Solo group missions. Not the janta's but the Critter Missions as they have more spawnage per lair.
Rifleman you have to be careful as you can kill the lair without getting the maximum spawnage of critters.
If i do the mindless grind i can cap both in 1 buffsession.
RonsterA
Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:15 pm
#3
I did both as well as tka for my grind. I ended up doing most the grind as master marksman/ master rifle. I could fill the 900k Rifle xp cap faster than any other profession.
*BUT*
Looking back, it would make more sense to master swords, tka, and fencer ...and then grind all 3 to 900k before making that village round trip
Sidalo
Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:30 pm
#4
Well if you only have room for 1, you might want to go for rifleman, if all it is is for getting xp.
You have pluses and drawbacks on both.
Rifleman:
- High Mind use on specials especially for T21
+Will be faster than swordsman (unless you use scythe)
+ Options for varying damage types (energy, acid, stun)
Swordsman:
+ Low Mind use with specials
- Slower by default to Rifleman (unless you use scythe, but then you are stuck with just kinetic damage)
+ Blast & Kinetic Damage (blast will be slow though)
The default speed with Strafe Shot 2 for a master rifleman is 2.4 seconds assuming normal t21 is 7.3 rating. This is the slowest attack and therefore you is the slowest you will shoot specials.
The default speed withSpin Attack 2for master swordsman is 3.0 seconds assuming a normal Power Hammer of 5.3 rating. Other attacks are slower so if you use 2hand hit3 for example you will be even slower.
Message Edited by Sidalo on 11-15-2004 01:31 PM
RonsterA
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:10 pm
#5
honestly if you can only do one or another, I would pick swords ...(or maybe tka - for mediate, power boost, force of will & defences)
To be the best rifleman possible, you need to get above the +90 speed you get as only master rifle. This can be done with either master marksman for +95 speed or speed tapes. If you trust the devs, you can save yourself for the FS ranged speed to work. That is listed as +12 enhanced
*IF* you can get to +95 speed or better for rifle, thats just silly..I love it.
Message Edited by RonsterA on 11-15-2004 09:28 PM
drathon-3
Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:14 pm
#6
Gaabreal wrote:
which is best to do this with? im also currently a master doc. thanx in advance.
I would have to agree on the sword. The tools at your disposal have no comparison in PvE.
drathon-3
Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:16 pm
#7
RonsterA wrote:
honestly if you can only do one or another, I would pick swords ...(or maybe tka - for mediate, power boost, force of will & defences)
To be the best rifleman possible, you need to get about the +90 speed you get as only master rifle. This can be done with either master marksman for +95 speed or speed tapes. If you trust the devs, you can save yourself for the FS ranged speed to work. That is listed as +12 enhanced
*IF* you can get to +95 speed or better for rifle, thats just silly..I love it.
wow, the beliefs culturedby this game are right on. never trust a dev 
Radiomus
Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:35 pm
#8
a m8 and I made a little experiment today...
he is master rifle and Im master swords..
he went to endor running around the ewok village
I went to geo lab
... he had maxed his rifle in 53minz doing random spawn (boogle ect.)
.. I was crying after the 53 minz in the geo cave with only 650k xp...
I dont like it.. but gotta admin rifle is fastest... (damm fast indeed)
Bkiddin
Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:06 pm
#9
Gaabreal wrote:
which is best to do this with? im also currently a master doc. thanx in advance.
i am already almost done with swordsman, i got it mainly to help with FS quests/grinding
BOYD
Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:19 pm
#10
running solo missions on dath and picking off any and all lairs i see on the way on dathomir i was able to get 900k rifle xp in 39 minutes. the fastest i have gotten 900k with swords was doing the same thing and i did it in about hour and 5 minutes
Steven7856
Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:59 pm
#11
I loved swords for grinding this out, but before you decide on what you want to do you need to think about what type of fighting style you prefer. If you don't mind getting up close and dirty with the enemy (and being vunerable to those ranged attacks) then swords is for you. If you like to pick things off at distance, shot everything you can see, then rifles is the way to go. The benifits of swords/doctor though can not be over stated. Swords is a melee profession, you will take state effects, get bleeds, blah, blah, blah. Doctors were made to go with melee. You can heal yourself like nothing else in the game, state affects are a thing to be laughed at. Swords/Doctor is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful melee combinations in the game right now. Doctor/rifle is, in my opinion, amissedopportunity to flauntyour intrigrated skills to their maximun ability.
A good part of how you will gain XP is really how you will play, both a rifleman and a swordsman should be able to cap out in 30 to 45 minutes, if they know how to use their profession, they enjoy their profession and that is the bottom line. Both are very good, both are fast and both have advantages and disadvantages. As a side note I capped my swords XP (the fastest) in 23 minutes at the squill cave, average time is about 30 minutes for me. One circut is 525k xp, cleaned out the entire cave in 12 minutes, waited 5 minutes for it to respawn and 11 minutes later I had 900k swords XP with a little over 100k combat XP since I capped before I finished cleaning out the cave the second time. It is that fast,it took longer to travel from tatooine to the village than it did to cap my XP using swords.
My normal procedure was to go to the squill cave, cap out my XP, travel to dathomir, cash in my XP, wander off to the Nightsiters POIs, cap my XP and loot some stuff, back to the village cash in my XP, decide I was bored and talk with my friendsfor the remaining 90minutes on my buff.
Gaabreal
Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:25 am
#12
well, the thing is i only have room for 1 as i am master doc. just wondering what i should get for most effectiveness.
Fish-Man
Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:09 am
#13
takes me 40-48 minutes to cap swordsman on dantooine. don't get missions, run around on your bike and kill everything, spin attack3 with any scythe or speed sliced powerhammer, or dmg sliced if your speed capped.
i don't think i've ever been able to cap rifleman anywhere as fast as that. plus you get the melee defence and mitigation that will help a ton.
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