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Thread: Question about the 24 Boxes...

ShannonKnight
Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:36 am
#1

Okay I really want to unlock before the combat revamp and I am right on track. Now my question is:
Can I train in more trees after I unlocked? I use combat now to get my 6 trees, but once I accomplished that I'd really love to get the luck and force assembly tree. Can I still trade xp for the other trees then, and surrender ranged acc/speed later?



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Colonel Elalk Obesa
"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life."


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Othdrakk
Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:50 am
#2

i dont know the answer to your question really.

But what does the luck give you? is itworking?



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Chroma_Key
Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:51 am
#3

You can still unlock and trainmore fs skill according to the phases and you can alsodrop fs skills as long as you will have 6 fs skills.


If you have 7you can drop 1 but if you have 1-6 you can't drop a skill.





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Chroma_Key
Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:53 am
#4

To tell you the truth I wish I could drop all fs skills and be able totake more jedi skills. What you are willing to do is harmful to your future template and takes tons of grinding as well...





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ShannonKnight
Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:00 am
#5

I just want to get 6 now, and have time to do the other 2 later. Then I'd surrender the ranged accurace and speed.
BUT someone ingame just told me I can't unlearn other force trees. :-/
Dunno whats correct now.

Oh, and luck gives you better chance of loot and more money per kill.



_______________________________
Colonel Elalk Obesa
"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life."


"I don't suffer from insanity, I am enjoying it."


Ciredor
Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:22 am
#6






ShannonKnight wrote:
I just want to get 6 now, and have time to do the other 2 later. Then I'd surrender the ranged accurace and speed.
BUT someone ingame just told me I can't unlearn other force trees. :-/
Dunno whats correct now.

Oh, and luck gives you better chance of loot and more money per kill.






Here's my opinion and NOT from experience:


In one of SSSnuggle's guides is a link to a thread where the poster did in fact train up a 7th branch and successfully drop a less desireable one. Now, i'm sure this poster had no reason to pull anyone's leg, but...you never know. And since none of the FS stuff is written in stone, who's to say the devs don't change this at some point and you cannot drop the skills. Now you're stuck with 7 branches and have lost 4 skill points forever. They did this during the hologrind, changing it from 5 to 8 profs, after a few months.


I suspect the additional grind and the uncertainty around picking up additional FS skills and dropping others keeps most people from trying it. Hence, we have little concrete examples.


As for Luck...it is such a hard thing to quantify, I don't know how anyone could say with certainty it actually helped. Many people swear it does, but I also suspect people going the FS route are grinding a LOT more than other profs and simply increase their success rate in good loot because they have increased theoverall amount of loot they get. Just a thought.





Ciredor
12pt Chef, 12pt Artisan, 11pt Weaponsmith, FS Fool with 2 Vendor locations: 3612, -6057 outside Mos Eisley on Tatooine & 580, 1707 near the Mining Outpost on Dantooine

ShannonKnight
Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:50 am
#7

Well I'll grind 6 trees (the xp at least) and try to get the info till I need it.
And I pray I can untrain some skill then



_______________________________
Colonel Elalk Obesa
"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life."


"I don't suffer from insanity, I am enjoying it."


shampipple
Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:11 am
#8

for the millonth time. as long as u have 6 branches u are good to go. so if u get a seventh one u can drop another one if u want.



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ShannonKnight
Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:30 am
#9



shampipple wrote:
for the millonth time. as long as u have 6 branches u are good to go. so if u get a seventh one u can drop another one if u want.





If the question has been asked a million times already it should be covered in the FAQ don't ya think so?
The problem is not in gathering the information but rather the different answers I get. I asked quite some people ingame and none couldn't answer my question.
One (a jedi) sweared that he couldn't get another force branch, and he claimed he tried it because he still wants his force assembly branch. He is a friend of mine and so I might be inclined to trust him more than some random guy on the forum.
My friend told me Peamos didn't give him the option to convert xp anymore so if you can: How and did you try that on your own.



_______________________________
Colonel Elalk Obesa
"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life."


"I don't suffer from insanity, I am enjoying it."


jcesare
Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:36 pm
#10







As for Luck...it is such a hard thing to quantify, I don't know how anyone could say with certainty it actually helped. Many people swear it does, but I also suspect people going the FS route are grinding a LOT more than other profs and simply increase their success rate in good loot because they have increased theoverall amount of loot they get.






One thing I can say for sure is that after I completed the luck tree ALL npcs drop credits now. This was not the case before I did the tree. The credits have increased a great deal percentage wise but the quantites are paltry so it's no realbig differeance. For example instead of 50 credits I might get 100, a 100% increase but still small compared to the mission payouts.



As far as the oringinal post is concerned, right now, the prequisite for Jedi is 6 Full branches. You can learn a 7th and drop one. If you're planning to do other branches, you better do them BEFORE you make Padawan. Jedi xp does no convert to fs xp. Jedi boxes cost more then conventional skill boxes. Jedi death causes jedi xp loss (capped atminus 1million!!!) so you really don't want to do unneccessary combat. This is a sure fire way to get into a hole real fast.


As you develop your Jedi, you're going to have to transition your template and drop high level skills that makes it possible to grind a lot of fs xp relatively quickly. A jedi in training is going to be a real "tweener" character and managing your skill points is critical to success.

Message Edited by jcesare on 01-14-2005 02:47 PM






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ShannonKnight
Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:07 pm
#11

Thanks for the answer!
Jeah I definitly will do all the branches I want before padawan. I am just doing the combat ones to get it done, then I take my time for luck and one crafting tree. THEN I start on the large grind, eg. Jedi.



_______________________________
Colonel Elalk Obesa
"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life."


"I don't suffer from insanity, I am enjoying it."


ShannonKnight
Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:51 am
#12

I asked quite a few guys ingame now. But no one knows for sure so far. Is ANYONE sure if that will work or not?



_______________________________
Colonel Elalk Obesa
"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddamn stupid useless conversations with anybody. If anybody wanted to tell me something they'd have to write it on a piece of paper and shove it over to me. They'd get bored as hell doing that after a while, and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life."


"I don't suffer from insanity, I am enjoying it."


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