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Thread: Badges are now a commodity

PetaByte32
Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:54 am
#1

Just like AxP and Faction. Badges are now a commodity.


I first saw this in coronet where a player was shouting they would get you all the POI badges required in just a few hours for 500k.I sent him a tell to find out what he meant. Of course he was an AFK barker but I got a reply with in an hour telling me all I would have to do is go to Tatooine with him and put auto-follow on him then go to Dathomir and do the samething.


A little later on a different server I saw someone selling tickets for the Warren badges. 400k for a slot. 400k for basically a PUG? Heck having to go through one of those he better pay me.


And finally on Dathomir I saw a guy shouting he would get you all the badges on that planet for 100k. Samething as the first one. Just autofollow him and you got it.


Now I admit rangers have been doing this kinda thing in a way with escorting people to harvesters or finding rare spawns for people. But this is insane.


Whats next? Pretty soon we will have people selling groups to help out with getting all the FS skills needed and the final mellichae quest.


I dunno I just find it odd and rather ironic at the sametime. We got people screaming for more grouping yet now I can see some of those people will probably want to charge for grouping. Alterior motives maybe? Then we got a borked economy that is getting worse everyday and people wanting to charge huge amounts just for an hour of buzzing around or doing content. Content I might add I never thought would cost.


PB32







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Luke: "Really? what about those 50,000 Jedi Masters outside comparing Saber Size?"
Yoda: "Sorry I am, My Bad it is"
DevilPuppy
Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:22 am
#2

its not very hard to get POI badges ur self, the only hard badges r like the warren



ZeFeroth Fadis
Galen111
Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:24 am
#3

what does this have to do with force sensitivity?


I've sold a few warren badges. But I do all the work and waste a lot of time getting around that place. If people are lazy, they will pay. So I say charge em a lot for that laziness.



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PetaByte32
Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:34 am
#4






Galen111 wrote:

what does this have to do with force sensitivity?


I've sold a few warren badges. But I do all the work and waste a lot of time getting around that place. If people are lazy, they will pay. So I say charge em a lot for that laziness.





It has to do with FS because people are selling the badges to get into the village.


I think the real problem is that people think the true endgame is how much money you have. Typical capitalist additude. They dont realize the real point of this game is to have fun. So they will find anything that is possible to sale. And its one rudementary cause for the economy's problem.


As ranger I charged for hunts and searching out good spots on Dathomir. I know Dathomir like the back of my hand. But I never charged more then my expenses for it and always tried to make it fun. I never abided lazy people though. If someone wants their hand held they need to go play something else. Success at some goal is all the more sweeter when you do most of the work yourself.


We got people paying real world money for jedi characters then acting like it was some huge accomplishment because they went to their job to work. How is this badge selling going to work into this? Just makes the problem more prevelant.


PB32






Yoda: "When I die, the last of the Jedi, you will be!"
Luke: "Really? what about those 50,000 Jedi Masters outside comparing Saber Size?"
Yoda: "Sorry I am, My Bad it is"
dzsoti
Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:53 am
#5

Almost the same story i saw a guy on chimaera who was "selling" c.corvette trips.U get the ticket , pay the guy 500k, he takes u to the corvette and completes the mission for u.BUT!!! u cannot loot , so if he finds an powerplant or something valuable he takes it.... Isnt it ridicilous ? U struggle for the ticket , pay the guy 500k for the guidance and after all this he will take all the valueable loots.What can i say ? No comment ?





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Galen111
Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:27 am
#6

I only charge for the disks.. I spent a over an hour redoing the warren FOR them.. they didn't follow along, help in any way. This, I believe, is an acceptable reason to charge the pants right off them. If they don't feel it is worth the money, they can do it themselves, as it is not a hard quest in the least bit. Am I detracting from their gaming experience? Perhaps, depending on how you look at it. But am I also making their gaming experience better? Again, it comes down to how you look at it.


It comes down to people being lazy. If they want the warren badge, they can go and do it and it isn't difficult. But if they would rather pay someone else to do it for them, I have absolutely no objections to it, as I can make a few credits to better both our meaningless SWG lives. If you really have a problem with it, cry to the devs like everyone else does about every other aspect of the games economy.


I believe 100% that if both parties are happy at the end of the transaction of service, that there is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with it.





Jennei Hart - Master Doctor / Master Swordman / Smuggler's Alliance Ace Pilot
Located 780m straight out from Theed Starport.

Glimmer Inc.
-5322 3419
Galen111
Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:30 am
#7

And to add to that... It is basically like having a financial advisor. You pay someone else to manage the money you were smart enough to make in the first place. You don't want to do it yourself, so you pay someone else to do it for you. A very old and basic concept.



Jennei Hart - Master Doctor / Master Swordman / Smuggler's Alliance Ace Pilot
Located 780m straight out from Theed Starport.

Glimmer Inc.
-5322 3419
Han_Solo_67
Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:50 am
#8

Sheesh! What happened to going to the POI's yourself just for bragging rights? I remeber when nothing gave a badge, we all still ran out to the sarlacc, and Ben's house anyway!



Rikarus Sinn
Rebel Captain,
Formerly of ACES and Arakeen
Jedi?
DanoCollins
Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:04 am
#9







. If someone wants their hand held they need to go play something else.




Oh, and by hand-holding, you don't mean SOE already providing a waypoint on the map for you to follow? I guess we should all be more noble and ignore the provided points and explore until we run into them...if that is how YOU want to play, go ahead.


Selling tours to gather POI's is fine in my book....people can do what they want for a credit. Some newer players may not be strong enough to encounter these POI's...in case they get mobbed in the Agrilat Swamp for example, and having a guide to follow may be something they want.


People can charge for whatever they want to charge for in this game. It is a free economy with no morals attached to it.


I used to watch the bazaar for rug adhesives posted by new players who didn't realize the value...I have picked up 10 or 12 of those for less than 60k, and I made millions back on them. I guess I should have bought the adhesive, located the seller, and give it back to them for a second chance?


In short...leave people alone and let them enjoy the game in which ever way they choose.










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Nohoah
Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:21 am
#10

I personally don't have an issue with people doing this, I time is money and if someone wants to pay someone to spend their time as a 'tour guide' more power to 'em. The thing with this is if someone pays someone to show 'em around and get badges and such they won't get the same sence of accomplishment when they reach their end goal. As crazy as it sounds I was totally thrilled when I did a /check and I got the glowy message.



And if you think that is bad, check this out
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DanoCollins
Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:28 am
#11


Yes...that clicky is ridiculous. THAT defeats the purpose of the game.







Do you help Jedi player to regain their lost XP?


Yes, this is a special service and is priced separately to the rest of the list.


On average we charge by time consumed, but as this can be a sticky job, due to Bounty Hunters and the like, we have to
evaluate cost on an individual basis. IE: On average our grinding team can easily get you between 600k and 1.5mil a day
as long as there are no issues.


We do endeavor to keep well away from any form of conflict with other players especially Bounty Hunters, and always have a
doctor on call to resurrect so in the unfortunate event that the character does get hunted and killed during the grind,
the XP loss will be minimal.


Any lost XP however will take extra time plus money to regrind, and it is crucial that the buyer understands this risk.





Message Edited by DanoCollins on 01-06-2005 09:31 AM



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Nohoah
Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:34 am
#12






DanoCollins wrote:


Yes...that clicky is ridiculous. THAT defeats the purpose of the game.





Yeah I totally agree, the first time I saw it I snarfed Dr Pepper all over my monitors here at work. Everytime I think about this it makes me wonder if 1) anyone actually does this and 2) if they do this whats the point of even playing the game?





WayneInAustin
Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:37 pm
#13

I almost always let other people play the game for me.


I let them buy the game, I let them install it on their PC, I even let them pick the character and develop it. And the great thing is, I don't have to pay them a cent! I don't even know their names! Using this technique, I have been able to not play every online game ever invented for a cost of $0.00 !! It's fantastic!

The only exception is SWG. I paid for it, installed it, picked the character, and play it myself.


Okay.. back to reality. I personally did all my badges, including the corvette (in an experienced group) and the warren. But I have NO PROBLEM with those who don't want to do it. I agree that if you have the money, you should be able to hire help as long as it is within game rules. I personally found the Rebel Themepark to be the longest, most boring, most inane series of quests I've ever been on... looking back I wish I could have paid someone to do THAT one for me!!


The game is supposed to be FUN for EACH INDIVIDUAL. If an individual can increase their "fun quotient" by paying someone else to get over the bumpy spots, so be it. Not my style, but could be someone elses. There is no law that says my style has to be your style.





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