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Thread: TKA Inate Armor and Jedi Padawan

Rahik
Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:51 am
#1

Does TKA Inate Armor work when u unlock and become jedi?
SoloMek
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:03 pm
#2


No sir.


Read the details in your Force Progression column. This is the column that shows you:


Force Sensitive


Jedi Initiate


Jedi Padawan


Jedi Knight


Jedi Guardian


Jedi Master


Specifically, go to the Padawan innate armor (+20) and read what appears when you place your cursor there. It will say that TK innate armor will not factor in the Jedi innate armor. Sorry.


*edit for spelling


Message Edited by SoloMek on 09-07-2005 04:04 PM



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thebunny0904
Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:22 pm
#3

TK innate armor WILL work when you are a Jedi as long as your TK innate armor modifier is higher than your Jedi innate armor modifier. This has been confirmed. They will not stack, but the game will use whichever is higher.


As an example (note: all numbers in this example are made up so no guarantees on how reasonable they are)... If your TK innate armor is +25 and your Jedi innate armor is +20, you will have TK innate armor of +25 and no Jedi innate armor. If you then train some defender skills to get Jedi innate armor up to +30, you will have Jedi innate armor of +30 and no TK innate armor.


Hulke
Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:09 pm
#4

I was Master Pike, TKM, Doc 4000 template before unlock. Heres what happened for me.


IF TKA Innate armor > Jedi innate armor = Iused TKA innate armor ONLY IF SABER WAS NOT EQUIPED. (When equiping the saber I used jedi innate no matter what)


IF TKA Innate armor < Jedi innate armor = I used Jedi armor WITH OR WITHOUT SABER EQUIPED.


Not sure if this is what others found but it made a difference for me.
Troilus_of_Bria
Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:39 am
#5

yes
UTech
Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:59 am
#6

TKA innate armour would be great choice for someone grinding Powers saber-less. Otherwise, as another poster stated, it ceases to be applied as soon as you equip a saber in favour of Jedi innate armour.



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Grunzer
Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:59 am
#7






UTech wrote:
TKA innate armour would be great choice for someone grinding Powers saber-less. Otherwise, as another poster stated, it ceases to be applied as soon as you equip a saber in favour of Jedi innate armour.






Right, but actually for a new padawan TKA innate armor and COB are still very useful. Once a BH has engaged you, you can't switch to armor for a ranged profession. But if that happens with TKA, you can unequip your weapon, turn on COB. and start running. hehehe.






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UTech
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:08 am
#8






Grunzer wrote:





UTech wrote:
TKA innate armour would be great choice for someone grinding Powers saber-less. Otherwise, as another poster stated, it ceases to be applied as soon as you equip a saber in favour of Jedi innate armour.






Right, but actually for a new padawan TKA innate armor and COB are still very useful. Once a BH has engaged you, you can't switch to armor for a ranged profession. But if that happens with TKA, you can unequip your weapon, turn on COB. and start running. hehehe.




Agreed. And CoB is still useful to a grinding Padawan, you simply have to unequip your saber, hit CoB, and re-equip your saber. While I still had some TKA skills I would pull the mob (either with a CM poison/fire or with Novice Powers /forcehit) then do unequip/CoB/reequip while the mob was running towards me. By the time it was within melee range I was CoB'd, saber in handandready to go and my DoT's were alreadyticking.




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Grunzer
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:25 am
#9






UTech wrote:






Grunzer wrote:





UTech wrote:
TKA innate armour would be great choice for someone grinding Powers saber-less. Otherwise, as another poster stated, it ceases to be applied as soon as you equip a saber in favour of Jedi innate armour.






Right, but actually for a new padawan TKA innate armor and COB are still very useful. Once a BH has engaged you, you can't switch to armor for a ranged profession. But if that happens with TKA, you can unequip your weapon, turn on COB. and start running. hehehe.




Agreed. And CoB is still useful to a grinding Padawan, you simply have to unequip your saber, hit CoB, and re-equip your saber. While I still had some TKA skills I would pull the mob (either with a CM poison/fire or with Novice Powers /forcehit) then do unequip/CoB/reequip while the mob was running towards me. By the time it was within melee range I was CoB'd, saber in handandready to go and my DoT's were alreadyticking.







That's some fantastic advice. I'm sure it'll be nerfed now, but really good advice none the less.






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thebunny0904
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:35 am
#10







UTech wrote:
TKA innate armour would be great choice for someone grinding Powers saber-less. Otherwise, as another poster stated, it ceases to be applied as soon as you equip a saber in favour of Jedi innate armour.



I'm pretty sure that as long as your TK innate armor is greater than your Jedi innate armor, it will be used even if you have your saber equipped. The theory is that it doesn't matter what weapon you have equipped - TK innate armor still applies as long as you aren't wearing any armor. I would suspect you could confirm this by equipping a regular sword and seeing if your TK armor stillapplies - I would imagine it's the same algorithm for sabers.

Message Edited by thebunny0904 on 09-08-2005 10:35 AM

Grunzer
Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:44 am
#11






thebunny0904 wrote:







UTech wrote:
TKA innate armour would be great choice for someone grinding Powers saber-less. Otherwise, as another poster stated, it ceases to be applied as soon as you equip a saber in favour of Jedi innate armour.



I'm pretty sure that as long as your TK innate armor is greater than your Jedi innate armor, it will be used even if you have your saber equipped. The theory is that it doesn't matter what weapon you have equipped - TK innate armor still applies as long as you aren't wearing any armor. I would suspect you could confirm this by equipping a regular sword and seeing if your TK armor stillapplies - I would imagine it's the same algorithm for sabers.

Message Edited by thebunny0904 on 09-08-2005 10:35 AM





Last I checked the consensus was that TK innate armor did not work with a weapon equipped except for possibly the vibro knucklers. Though I admit it has been something that melee stackers have been trying to prove or disprove for a very long time.


Regardless, when I unlock in 3 weeks I'm respeccing to TKM/MCM or TKM/Doc. I know a lot of people recommend a ranged profession like rifles, but I just don't see the benefit in that, I've rarely ever heard of or seen a gimped MRM taking on a full templated BH and winning, so I'd rather go for skills that will keep me alive long enough to get away. And I've determined that TKM & Healing would be best for that since the devs have made it so that armor can't be put on when in combat, the only way to get around that is to be a tkm. & CoB won't hurt at all either. hehe.

Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-08-2005 10:48 AM



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