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Thread: Guide aint good enough

Rorar
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:03 pm
#1






JediMasterZero wrote:





Rorar wrote:


Oh and please do us a favor... when you complete your village trials, please submit your guide. I would love to read it.


Why people feel that they should be spoon fed everything drives me crazy.

Message Edited by Rorar on 11-29-2004 03:52 PM






Amen to that, man. If one person could figure it all out and write a guide, I have full faith that everyone can figure it out to some capacity.


And, as a side note, I thought the stickied guide was rather good.





Oh yeah, forgot to say, I thought the guide was good. And its being updated nicely. If you can't figure it out well......




Sared - Jedi Knight
Ges - Imperial Corporal
Krosc
Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:09 pm
#2







Rorar wrote:


Oh and the "GRIND" as you are calling it... is going out with the professions of your choice and using them. Not much of a grind in my sense. want to change a prof? Go for it.



No, I cant see what killing a million things has to do with your abiltiy to make a camp or mask scent. Plus, your not "using your profession" your abusing it.



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Krosc
Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:22 pm
#3






Rorar wrote:
Why people feel that they should be spoon fed everything drives me crazy.





Im sorry you were offended, my point was that the devolper didn't say diddly squat about it. I was not trying to insult the person who wrote the guide. But even after reading thedarn thing,I had no idea what I was supposed to do. Run around talking to NPCs in the village trying to find out -they dont tell you much. Check knowledge base, no help. Check forums, some help, but not very clear.


I guess you would call it spoon feeding when someone told taught you how to tie your shoes.I mean, eventually you couldhave figured it out on your own, right?


Its amazing how uncommon it is for anyone to respond in these forums with any helpful information. Thank you for those who did. The rest of you can choke on yout on flames. They were not requested and certainly help nothing but your own ego.




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Krosc
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:39 am
#4





OK, I'm trying to figure this nonsense out. The guide is not really clear about how the village works. So I go and convert all my exp and get enough for novice block of senses and learn it. But I am not a doctor so I could not work in senses line in phase 1. The quest I took was from Whip instread, sinceI was scout and ranger.Seems survival line fits me.Well, that unlocks a different line and all my scouting and survival exp applied to senses, while I have to grind combat exp to get survival Jedi skills.


Anyway, so now I have to grind for novice reflexes, then grind for survival 1, then 2 and so on. Do i do a quest after i acheive survival 1? Now if I dont get done before phase changes, amI just up a creek? Can I not work on that line any more after phase change? And if I start a new line in phase two, does that mean I cant do my phase 1 unlock any more?


Thisis an insane design anyway. I thought the revamp was suposed to get rid of the grind in lue of other activities, not make it worse.


Message Edited by Krosc on 11-29-2004 02:47 PM



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otoolejp
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:45 am
#5






Krosc wrote:


OK, I'm trying to fighure this nonsense out. The guide is not really clear about how the vilalge works. So I go and convert all my exp and get enough for novice block of sense and learn it. But the quest I took was from whip. Well, that unlocks a differnt line. So now I have to grind for novice reflex, then grind for survival 1, then 2 and so on. Now if I dont get done before phase changes, am i jsut up a creek? Can i not work on that line any more? And if I start a new line in phase two, does that mean I cant do my phase 1 unlock?


Thisis an insane design anyway. I thought the revamp was suposed to get rid of the grind in lue of other activities, not make it worse.

Message Edited by Krosc on 11-29-2004 02:40 PM





Yes, Sorry, you have to get the right type of XP to convert. What does convert for what and the rates are in the guide. You don't have to finish the branch by the time you unlock another, it works fine.



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Rorar
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:50 am
#6






Krosc wrote:





OK, I'm trying to figure this nonsense out. The guide is not really clear about how the village works. So I go and convert all my exp and get enough for novice block of senses and learn it. But I am not a doctor so I could not work in senses line in phase 1. The quest I took was from Whip instread, sinceI was scout and ranger.Seems survival line fits me.Well, that unlocks a different line and all my scouting and survival exp applied to senses, while I have to grind combat exp to get survival Jedi skills.


Anyway, so now I have to grind for novice reflexes, then grind for survival 1, then 2 and so on. Do i do a quest after i acheive survival 1? Now if I dont get done before phase changes, amI just up a creek? Can I not work on that line any more after phase change? And if I start a new line in phase two, does that mean I cant do my phase 1 unlock any more?


Thisis an insane design anyway. I thought the revamp was suposed to get rid of the grind in lue of other activities, not make it worse.



Message Edited by Krosc on 11-29-2004 02:47 PM





Oh and the "GRIND" as you are calling it... is going out with the professions of your choice and using them. Not much of a grind in my sense. want to change a prof? Go for it.


And yes just wait for the phase shift. Take your time and enjoy your GRIND. It doesnt need to be done in 3 or 4 days.



Sared - Jedi Knight
Ges - Imperial Corporal
Rorar
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:51 am
#7


Oh and please do us a favor... when you complete your village trials, please submit your guide. I would love to read it.


Why people feel that they should be spoon fed everything drives me crazy.

Message Edited by Rorar on 11-29-2004 03:52 PM



Sared - Jedi Knight
Ges - Imperial Corporal
JediMasterZero
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:53 am
#8

<<Now if I dont get done before phase changes, am i jsut up a creek? Can i not work on that line any more? And if I start a new line in phase two, does that mean I cant do my phase 1 unlock? >>


No, once you unlock a branch (by doing a quest), you can train each box in that branch at your leisure - it is *NOT* phase-dependent. Therefore, no to your second question there too.



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JediMasterZero
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:57 am
#9






Rorar wrote:


Oh and please do us a favor... when you complete your village trials, please submit your guide. I would love to read it.


Why people feel that they should be spoon fed everything drives me crazy.

Message Edited by Rorar on 11-29-2004 03:52 PM






Amen to that, man. If one person could figure it all out and write a guide, I have full faith that everyone can figure it out to some capacity.


And, as a side note, I thought the stickied guide was rather good.




Kyp Emique ~ Jedi Padawan
Pyk Sesom - Master Bounty Hunter

There is no emotion; there is peace. There is no ignorance; there is knowledge. There is no passion; there is serenity. There is no death; there is the Combat Upgrade.
Rorar
Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:33 am
#10






Krosc wrote:



Its amazing how uncommon it is for anyone to respond in these forums with any helpful information. Thank you for those who did. The rest of you can choke on yout on flames. They were not requested and certainly help nothing but your own ego.





Sorry but you cant expect anything but flames if you come out flaming. By saying that someones work "aint' good enough is flaming. Don't expect anything different back.




Sared - Jedi Knight
Ges - Imperial Corporal
Rorar
Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:34 am
#11






Krosc wrote:



Im sorry you were offended, my point was that the devolper didn't say diddly squat about it. I was not trying to insult the person who wrote the guide. But even after reading thedarn thing,I had no idea what I was supposed to do. Run around talking to NPCs in the village trying to find out -they dont tell you much. Check knowledge base, no help. Check forums, some help, but not very clear.






Oh try finding ANY information from ANY developer about the old way. The new way IS spoon fed. Sorry.



Sared - Jedi Knight
Ges - Imperial Corporal
DoctorBill
Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:16 am
#12


I have to admit I was very confused the first time around the village but after reading many guides, not just one, I figured it out, I am just glad work pays me to find out


I have to agree with the poster that a clearer guide would be helpful to those that are not able to surf for hours trying to figure it out.


In my best description to this thread, you have 4 quests you are able to do for each phase, 1 for reflexes, 1 for crafting, 1 for senses, and 1 for combat prowess.


Combat exp and exp done with weapons is converted to reflexes and combat prowess.


Any crafting exp goes to crafting obviously, except shipwright I think? I dont believe shipwright crafting exp converts, but not positive, just something I think I read sometime.


Senses is wierd, you have a few choices of exp types to convert to senses.


Your only allowed to do one quest per phase, so pick the ones you want as I am unclear that your able to surrender anything in the force branches once you train in them.


You can still do all of the quests and receive the rewards, but only train in the ones you unlock that you want to train in, for example, I did the persuasion quest because I wanted the plant, but I dont want the persuasion skills, personally I dont want any of the phase one skills So I just do the ones I want the rewards for this phase, I think Billy will try the ranged one this phase as he did persuasion last time phase 1 came around, but as I stated, I only wanted the reward, now I want the banner My alt will do the assembly quest for the sculpture piece, that may actually be the other way around with who does which quest, just in case I ever find a good way to grind crafting experience.


The reason I say to train in the ones you want is because you dont want to have to wait an addition 12weeks for a phase to come around again, because you took the wrong quest. But if you dont want to learn anything in phase one like me, then do the one with the coolest reward.


I hope this helps, there is still other things you need to figure out, but this should get you started, I keep getting interupted here at work, its end of the month so things are a bit busy today.



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SSSnuggles
Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:05 pm
#13

For specific Quest information : *Points to Quest Guide*

For general Village/Walkthrough Information: *Points to FAQ/Guide*


Essentially you can do one quest per phase (there is one of each type per phase) and that unlocks a branch. Unlock means the ability to train that branch. You convert the right kind of xp for the right kind of FS xp at Paemos, you train at Noldan.


Read the guides I have posted, if you have a specific question please ask it, just saying "I don't get it" is insufficient.

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