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Thread: PATH TO JEDI THE WAY IT SHOULD BE QUEST DRIVEN

kazzdevlin
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:09 pm
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PATH TO JEDI THE WAY IT SHOULD BE: QUEST DRIVEN [ Edited ]



QUEST system is a must! I purpose a new system one that might not be as complex to get jedi, but being a jedi is going to be very different then the old days.


The enclave is gone the young jedi's in training killed by Darth Vader.... jedi everywhere are targets: (FYI: I for one am not even sure what timeline were in? Are the wookies revolting or has the death star been destroyed is this during the "a new hope" or During the "epsiode 3" I'm under the impression its the later and thus expalins the storyline as follows.)


UPDATE:


(As far as the answer to your question about time line, we are in between "A New Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Back". Storyline still plays out jedi are currently being hunted/erradicated.)


Thanks to : N'oboe Amnas For timeline info!


The Jedi Eradication has begun! The mission now is Survial!


After reaching FS the old man vists you in much the same way the system is set up now EXCEPT: NO MORE FS EXP FOR COMBAT EXP. Do away with this and replace with FS THEME PARK. after completing mission quests you are given FS points. plus everything in Swg assigned FS rating or worth so you earn FS points from individual attacks of creatures and such after unlocking FS.


VILLAGE EXIT QUEST:

The village is attacked (by over welming force of imperials by moderate to high levels you face the first wave and then are force to flee. ) you and the old man make your way outside the village and watch as it is destroyed. the old man says we must depart quickly they will come for us now. he'll join you and agrees to teach you what he knows. Congrats your an intiate. he's treated as a NPC pet ( which you can heal and order attacks but the attacks are randomly controled by AI.) we must make are way to old jedi academy to see if any one there can help us.

Upon arriving you see the dead bodies of the young jedi littered across the floor. The halls echo with a dark auora of Vaders betryal you are grief stricken but you have no time to morn their loss, you are ambushed and must fight your way to the lower levels. its a tough fight but you make it. the old man collapses the entrance you have no choice but to go down in to the depths of academy. Now once down here it should be possible to group with other intiates but only the inviting charater retains the old man, he will accompany the group and betreated as there master as well. ( If dibanded the others will again recieve the oldman as a NPC.)


QUEST TO BUILD TRAINING SABER:

Speaks for its self a puzzle quest mixed in with hunt for parts quest etc etc

JOURNEY TO THE CORE:


Now you face the lengthy task of treking down through the vast caverns, navigate through monster ridden caves, solvepuzzle quests to get past obstacles, accomplish mission quest to obtain needed items. All as you make your way down toward the hidden library of the jedi. Upon reaching the library you must perform some puzzle quest to gain entry. Once in side you must dispatch some high level droids maybe do more puzzle quests to by pass security. Finally you gain access.


WELCOME TO JEDI TRAINING 101

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Along with the scenrios that I mention below you could incorperate quests in here too. Like maybe some Imperials managed to make in down and you have to defend agaist several waves of impy's, or the life support system is on the fritz's need componets. Old man was biten by venomus snake need antidote, have to collect several specimans. etc. etc. Somthing to break up the montoney so its not so boring.


THE TRAINING ARENA

: Where you have to fight hologram(s) of jedi Trainer(s) of various styles. Each time you fight you earn more Training exp, when you successfully beat him you learn his technique. (Dev's could set this up that a specific amount of Exp. will be necessary to beat said trainer.) Another words your learning or improving everytime you battle a Trainer.

The 're 7 Jedi saber forms. I would like to see these incorperated into the game along with the option of the use of a single blade, two blades (one in each hand) or a polearm type blade (Darth Maul type) One or 2 of the forms could be learned here and the rest learned in later quests. Each saber style would have techniques that are better or worse against other saber styles. blocks work better against one style and worse against others. attacks do more damage or less dmg depending on oppsing style. Requires strategy!


POWERS TRIAL:



Here's where the dev's could excel themselves by coming up with a game within a game for the other force powers. Here's four I came up with.


FORCE PUSH TRIAL:

Come up with a scenerio where you need to use the keyboard to dirrect the Force push at a certain target/object. At first its real difficult to control but the more you do it the easier it gets and you earn exp towards force push every time you succeed at the mission. its a timed mission so you have to do so many pushes in an aloted time, succede awarded more exp. fail awarded some exp.based on amount of successful pushes executed.

FORCE HEAL TRIAL:

You would enter the medition chamber. Once in side you begin to take damage the rate is ever change and you have to heal to match the rate too much you use to much force power to little you get incapped sooner. it's constantly changing rate that requires constant change. You get a little more force power everytime you attempt a mission if you go for length of mission you get more exp If you get incapped there is no decay on your items. and you get some exp.

FORCE CLOAK TRIAL:

This chamber you must sneak past droid guards undo security grid and obtain crystal. easy right did I forget to mention this mission is timed? oh and that theres a crystal in the center that absorbs your force power
.

NOTE ON POWERS: Once a power is mastered it would be treated or used the way it is currently in the system. Thus its only use during training as I have mentioned above.


OTHER POWERS:

Dev's can apply same principles as above in that your grinding, but its story related and challeging. I.E. I get bored with Heal trial I can do training Trial or push Trial. etc.

THE DARK SIDE:

When you reach this stage you will learn the story of the Gaurdian of the library who fell to the darkside. And Recieve the quest to find the lost holocron of the sith. Here the dev's can make it so that you can learn a few dark side powers (like in KOTOR) or that you have to choose between the light and dark side. If you choose the darkside the oldman will leave you and says I cannot follow you down the path you have chosen. You are given waypoint to exar kuns temple

EXIT QUEST:


Begin the journey back up. the dev's can make it so that you have to go back the way you came or


take an alterntive way. ( I vote for the later as the academy will be watched.) But that could be fun too fight your way past imp patrols!


Once up top you begin your life as a jedi padawn and have to do quests to find other jedi's either help them complete there task or escape to freedom. They could set this up that the old man knows people that will contact you with missions involving the possible locations of jedi being held, hunted, or imprisoned and your job is to help them. The old man will leave you now and give you a waypoint where he can be reached. (you need him in order to train.)


If you chose the darkside you quest mission will be to head to the temple of exhar khun and there you will truly become sith and your mission is to hunt down jedi and destroy them. You will receive the same type of missions as the light side possibly even the same mission that another lightside jedi has taken where you will now have to kill both jedi's to be successful at the mission. Dev's could also entertain the idea for those that kill enough jedi and stay under the radar the emperor might take notice. You could becomea member of the emperor's hand. (like Mara Jade) Might get some perks like won't get attacked by imperials whilein imperial base. NOTE: Sith would return to the temple to train.


Either choice BOTH type of jedi's are HUNTED BY THE EMPIRE! Brandishing a lightsaber in public will draw instant attention! (Now this is touchy because if we do it this way jedi's will not be able to particpate in PVP or at least not in populated cities. I know you think well thats not fair! Well if you really want to you could do it, but imperials will spawn and you will get attacked! Lets face it if you were being hunted to annahltion you wouldn't be going around yelling here I am with a long glowing neon sign! (or double edge neon sign!) If you did you'd probably die!) Storm troopers moderate to high levels will spawn! There will be a brief delay after intial wave is delt with if jedi remains more waves of more difficult levels and greater numbers will appear and that brief delay before reinforcements show up gets shorter. Also you will go on the BH terminals.( I oppse the " you draw your saber in public your automatically killed by vader or overwelming force instantly" Especially sense I purpose some missions that might force you to become visable so to speak. This adds to realizm) There should be a way for them to get away a chance to escape. If they choose to stay its their choice and they know the risk.) Use of jedi powers could aggro near bystanders which could lead to a patrol spawning within a few minutes ( percentage based on people present.) . Jedi ( light side) might enjoy some safe zones Such as in a rebel facility theres a less likely hood of imperial attacks (but it would still be possible for a patrol to show up none the less! (though rebels Could help fight imps). (Note: However if your a dark jedi and in a rebel base then you get attacked by spawning rebels and yes the're just as tough as there imperial counter parts.) The reverse is not true however for imperial bases. There is no protection from the empire for jedi's of the darkside so keep this in mind for all you imps that go dark. The dev's can also come up with a way for jedi to stay under the radar. Maybe a purchase a Disgiuse kit from a sumggler. There's also the use of mind trick which could allow you to go unnotice most of the time but it may not always work. Earn to much visablity your a hunted man. Some missions you may be forced to become visable you might have to rescue a imprisoned jedi. Here you could enlist the aid of a smuggler and perhaps enlist fellow guild mates to help you do the misson.The smuggler could afford you a disguise and by pass on searches as long as he's with the party and as long as you don't use/carry lightsaber in public, or cloak or Force push! Although some force powers shouldn't aggro passer byers like healing and enhancements. (Doctors do this all the time) As you complete each mission you earn FS towards becoming master. If you are incaped by imperials you may get tossed into prison were you now have to escape/bribe or if you are killed you lose FS. (I would like to see somthing like this: every jedi is give three shall we say tokens were they can take a muligan (GOLF LINGO) were by they don't lose any FS exp. at all. Ideally we would save them for server cut-outs, loss of power, Brownouts, cat peeing on computer causing catastropic failure or what ever. Each person would get 3 a month they do not rollover use them or lose them.


Now Some of you are gonna probably hate this but this would balance the jedi's. They would have missions and they for the most part would be unseen as they would be grinding out of the "public eye." When they reached the level where they return to the public eye they would have to be aware of the GWC and that they are being hunted to annialtion. No more jedi Gank squads!!! Fface it boys/grils most level 80's have a tough time winning with one jedi let alone 3 or 4. They may still exist but its attack at your own risk, the imperials will come down on you and come down hard with wave of imperials showing up progressing in levels and faster spawning rates and possibly drawing the attention of Vader himself. I propose the Infrared goggled imperial npc who can see Cloaked jedi for those of you that are thinking of ganking and run. their rare but when they show you better go. And no more jedi's in plain view in theed dualing each other at theed spaceport. This just should be happening in the time frame were in!


ADDITIONAL MISSIONS & REWARDS:


mission to find other lost jedi libraries that contain new techniques or improved Force tecniques such as improved force push, (use less force energy) or Improve cloak (stay cloaked longer), relics,artifacts, armors (cortosis).


Well theres my idea what do you all think.


Message Edited by kazzdevlin on 07-20-200510:35 PM

Message Edited by kazzdevlin on 07-20-2005 10:36 PM



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Dante_Cryvante
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:45 pm
#2

i like it...










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BlkHwkDwn
Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:22 pm
#3

I'm not saying its bad or good, but what we have now is likely to be it. They have changed the path to jedi once a bit and once A LOT. Additionally with all the jedi there are now, it would barely change much, few would be effected by it as more and more get to be full template. The most important thing now is getting the FRS back up and hopefully working well. I dont know much about FRS, but if there are changed to be made that is where they are more likely.



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NiobeAmnas
Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:10 pm
#4

As far as the answer to your question about time line, we are in between "A New Hope" and "The Empire Strikes Back".



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Oophion
Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:36 pm
#5


ADDITIONAL MISSIONS & REWARDS:


mission to find other lost jedi libraries that contain new techniques or improved Force tecniques such as improved force push, (use less force energy) or Improve cloak (stay cloaked longer), relics,artifacts, armors (what ever the material is thats resistant light sabers.


Well theres my idea what do you all think.



its cortosis




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juado
Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:45 am
#6

/agree



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kazzdevlin
Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:05 pm
#7




its cortosis



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I thought thats what it was. Wasn't sure and to lazy to look in the books. Glad someone rememebered.


Message Edited by kazzdevlin on 07-13-2005 11:06 PM


Message Edited by kazzdevlin on 07-13-2005 11:07 PM

Message Edited by kazzdevlin on 07-13-2005 11:08 PM



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