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Thread: FS prof questions

Lancia
Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:25 pm
#1



I am currently a CL 25 player. Master Droid Engineer, and working my way through Commando. I have a respec coming to me (just started playing after a year or so off) and have been considering going MBH and Combat Med. I just got glowy yesterday and really want to get setup to start down the path of a jedi. After reading these forums I feel like going TKM and CM may be a better choice. Can someone give me some advice before I change? I have enough respec points to master something. Should I master TK or CM or neither?


Also, I am having a hard time letting go of master DE because it was such a pain to obtain. Is there any reason to hang on to this? Should I make a few things before I respec?

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ZeAo
Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:50 pm
#2

TKM and CM would be good, but you should alsokeep in mind what FS skills you are going to get. CM, good for sense exp. If your not going to keep DE, you should take another combat profession.
Lancia
Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:56 pm
#3

maybe I am not understanding this then. I thought I needed to unlock and obtain all of the FS boxes before I can move on and wouldn't that mean that I will eventually have to give up all my existing skills anyway? Maybe I just don't understand the progression.



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Ten-96
Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:09 pm
#4

You don't have to give them all up at once. The six trees for force sensitive skills are only 1 skill point per box for a total of 24 skill points. The novice boxes are free(except for the fs xp needed to unlock). As far as the original post, I would go with TKM and then get another Elite Melee for more damage and specials; like Master Swordsman. Then, you could go with Medic until you get started on your Jedi skills and drop other skills as necessary. That's the way I'm going for now.



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Hulke
Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:14 pm
#5





You dont have to get all the FS skills


you need 6 full branches in any of the 4 trees.


4 4 4 4


333 3(Getting the 4th box in any skill = completing that branch)


2222


111 1


^ ^ ^ ^

(Each set of 1-4 = a branch)



(FS Skill) <---------- = Tree (Containing 4 branches. Each branch has 4 boxes numbers 1-4)


(There are 4 trees to choose from) Ex. Combat Prowess, Enhanced Reflexes, etc.



Bad Diagram but there are 4 trees with 4 branches in each. 16 total branches. You need to get the tier 4 box in 6 different branches, 24 boxes total (MUST HAVE24 BOXESBY GETTING THE TIER4 BOX IN 6 BRANCHES, YOU CANNOT DABBLE IN EACHANDGET A SECONDVISITto get the old man to come for the second visit.


It gets more complicated as different trees take different types of regular experience. Weapons exp will convert for certain branches while healing exp converts to others.


You need to identify what 6 branches you want before changing your template. Once you have done this you will know how much of each type of regular char exp it will take to convert in order to move up the FS branches. If you want 6 branches that take all weapon and combat type exp for conversion then you want a template that allows you to max out with more exp before you need to go convert.



Oh yeah. Id get TKM first. The defense and Improved Center of Being are well worth it. These will help you with not only with grinding but with future FS quests. You can always use stims for what you are doing untill you can add more medic if youend up going with medic.




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Lancia
Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:57 pm
#6



Ok...I think I may be getting it. Let me expnlain how I understand this.


Now that I am glowy, an Old Man should visit me when outside of an NPC city (around 72 hours). If I am not CL80 or have friends or guildies that are CL80 I need to wait until I am CL80 to accept the old man's quest. If I just ignore him, he will continue to visit me until I accept his quest or turn him away. Can I turn him away and then later get the quest?


2 sith shadows will "visit" me around 72 hours after I accept the quest. The are around CL80 and are soloable by a CL80 char. Do you have to be CL80?


There will be a datapad as loot on one of the shadows and it will give me a WP for the village. Once there I can start questing from the NPCs. There is only one NPC per phase that will allow me to quest. Each phase is 3 weeks long. I know that I can only unlock one box each phase or something like that. This whole thing is a little fuzzy to me. More explaination here would be great. The guide is still a little confusing


From what you said, I need to complete4 branches of one tree and 2 branches of another tree to get to the padawan trials. This means box 1-4 in Ranged Combat in Combat Prowess during Phase 1. This means box 1-4 in Melee Speed within Combat Prowess during Phase 2. Then box 1-4 inMelee Accuracy during Phase 3. Then box 1-4 in Ranged Speed during Phase 4. Then 2 branches in something else. If my server is currently in Phase 3 then I would have to start with those quests?


What you are saying is that I should pick FS skills that will eventually compliment what I want to do within the Jedi tree? This means pick a FS skill that will go along with Force Defense, Force Enhancement, Force Healing, Lightsabers, Force Powers. I will definately want to do lightsabers and force powers.


To summarize, I am going to respec to TKM and CM and get to CL 80 then take the quest from the old man. Once I start the village, I will probably go all combat prowess because it will compliment lightsabers and force powers. Every three weeks I will be able to unlock a new branch within combat prowess so it will take me at least 12 weeks before I can complete all of the boxes.



Does this all sound right?

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Lancia
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:37 pm
#7


So let's say I am MTK and I am questing the village. When I train the FS boxes, do I have to give up one of my TK boxes to do it? Can I do that and use that xp at the converted rate to train the box? If I have skill points left, can I just fight things and get combat xp that gets converted to FS xp?



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Barndamascus
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:50 pm
#8






Lancia wrote:



Ok...I think I may be getting it. Let me expnlain how I understand this.


Now that I am glowy, an Old Man should visit me when outside of an NPC city (around 72 hours). I've become glowly on 3 accounts now, and the longest ive waited for the old man to visit was 48 hours, the shortest was 4 hours. That was only 2 days ago. If I am not CL80 or have friends or guildies that are CL80 I need to wait until I am CL80 to accept the old man's quest.You can accpet his quest no matter whatCL you are. I accepted it 2 days ago on my CL 1 crafter (if you need ideas to get glowy on a CL 1 character let me know)If I just ignore him, he will continue to visit me until I accept his quest or turn him away. Can I turn him away and then later get the quest? Never tried this, but i believe yes, he will keep showing up untill you agree to help him.


2 sith shadows will "visit" me around 72 hours (this again varies, they can come in mere hours or might take a couple days) after I accept the quest. The are around CL80 and are soloable by a CL80 char. Do you have to be CL80? Again no you dont. BUT you do need to get them killed so you can loot them. This is what i did: I logged in my CL 1 character and sat him out on his porch. I got a guild mate who is CL 80 who cankill two CL 80 Sith to group up with me and sit with me. As soon as i saw the Sith spawn (they spawn around 70-100 mtrs away and run straight at you) i ran my CL 1 toon inside while he killed the 2 Sith, then i walked outside and looted the corpes.


There will be a datapad as loot on one of the shadows and it will give me a WP for the village.Nope you missed a step. After the 2 Sith span and you kill them, you will loot a data disk that reveals a Sith camp around 1000 meters from your current location. At this camp you will find two CL 75 Sith and a CL 80. Once again i just grouped with some guild mates, they ran ahead and killed the Sith and i walked up and looted them. Thats when you get the datadisk tellingyou to go to the village on Dath.Once there I can start questing from the NPCs. There is only one NPC per phase that will allow me to quest. This bit may sound confusing, but there are 4 people which will let you take a quest, but you can only do 1 quest per village stage. You need to decide which quest you want to do before you talk to the appropraite quest giver. I'll add a link at the bottom to an awesome guide for this. Each phase is 3 weeks long. I know that I can only unlock one box each phase or something like that. Each time you are succesful in a quest you will 'unlock' a whole tree. ie you might 'unlock' the Ranged speed tree. This meens that you can then go and get normal xp, and convert it to FS xp. Get enough FS xp and you can train up boxes in that tree. This whole thing is a little fuzzy to me. More explaination here would be great. The guide is still a little confusing


From what you said, I need to complete4 branches of one tree and 2 branches of another tree to get to the padawan trials. This means box 1-4 in Ranged Combat in Combat Prowess during Phase 1. This means box 1-4 in Melee Speed within Combat Prowess during Phase 2. Then box 1-4 inMelee Accuracy during Phase 3. Then box 1-4 in Ranged Speed during Phase 4. Then 2 branches in something else. If my server is currently in Phase 3 then I would have to start with those quests? Ok, bare with me here, i'll try my best to explain


You do 1 quest per village shift. This quest will unlock a single tree like Ranged Speed or Luck etc. There is an awesome guide that i will try and link to that shows you what trees are available in each phase. You DO NOT have to have 4 trees all in the one FS profession. You can choose any trees you want to get. But you will need 6 trees total before the quests for jedi begin.You could have a tree from each like 4004 combat prowess, 0400 reflexes, 0040 senses, 0440 crafting if you wish. As long as you unlock 6 tree's, then grind the xp needed to train the boxes.


What you are saying is that I should pick FS skills that will eventually compliment what I want to do within the Jedi tree? This means pick a FS skill that will go along with Force Defense, Force Enhancement, Force Healing, Lightsabers, Force Powers. I will definately want to do lightsabers and force powers. I'm not sure on these, my brain is fried from working today. If i think about it i'll get back to you.


To summarize, I am going to respec to TKM and CM and get to CL 80 then take the quest from the old man. Once I start the village, I will probably go all combat prowess because it will compliment lightsabers and force powers. Every three weeks I will be able to unlock a new branch within combat prowess so it will take me at least 12 weeks before I can complete all of the boxes.



Does this all sound right?


Message Edited by Lancia on 08-30-2005 07:08 PM




I've hit reply twice and been caught up with clients. As soon as my work load free's up i'll edit this post and clear some questions for you

Edit: Added my answers hope this helps somewhat, i'll get back later to see if i can answer some more questions

Message Edited by Barndamascus on 08-30-2005 06:18 PM



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Lancia
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:58 pm
#9

Thank you! I think I am close to understanding everything



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Ten-96
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:20 pm
#10



Lancia wrote:


So let's say I am MTK and I am questing the village. When I train the FS boxes, do I have to give up one of my TK boxes to do it?

No, you can get all the fs xp before you train in those skill boxes. The novice boxes don't require skill points but each ascending box requires fs xp and 1 skill point. You don't have to give up anything until you train in the force sensitive skills.


Can I do that and use that xp at the converted rate to train the box?

You can train in the boxes as you go using converted xp. My suggestion is to wait until you get all of the fs xp you need and then train.


If I have skill points left, can I just fight things and get combat xp that gets converted to FS xp?
I'm not sure what you mean exactly but I'll venture a guess. If you aren't working towards Jedi then you don't have to train six full boxes to complete the village. If you are working towards Jedi, then you'll have to sacrifice some skills from your other professions in order to complete the village. Personally, I'll be holding onto TKM until I have to sacrifice the Master box because of the innate armor and Imp. CoB. I plan on dropping Doctor and keeping Medic x2xx for Bacta Toss. I also plan on dropping Master Swords just enough to meet the skill points required for the village. I hope this helped a little as I myself am in the same situation with the village grind.





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Lancia
Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:20 pm
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Barndamascus wrote:







You DO NOT have to have 4 trees all in the one FS profession. You can choose any trees you want to get. But you will need 6 trees total before the quests for jedi begin.You could have a tree from each like 4004 combat prowess, 0400 reflexes, 0040 senses, 0440 crafting if you wish. As long as you unlock 6 tree's, then grind the xp needed to train the boxes.




Thanks for all the advice. It really helps. You mention here that you need 6 branches total and that at least 4 DONT have to be from the same tree. What I've read seems like at least 4 need to be in Combat Reflexes or another tree. Is this true?



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Barndamascus
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:06 pm
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Lancia wrote:





Barndamascus wrote:







You DO NOT have to have 4 trees all in the one FS profession. You can choose any trees you want to get. But you will need 6 trees total before the quests for jedi begin.You could have a tree from each like 4004 combat prowess, 0400 reflexes, 0040 senses, 0440 crafting if you wish. As long as you unlock 6 tree's, then grind the xp needed to train the boxes.




Thanks for all the advice. It really helps. You mention here that you need 6 branches total and that at least 4 DONT have to be from the same tree. What I've read seems like at least 4 need to be in Combat Reflexes or another tree. Is this true?





Nope you could be 4444 crafting mastery and 4400 senses if you wanted. Just as long as you have 6 trees total.


Having said that, i find that the mod's given with the combat and reflexes tree do actually help. I did the ranged speed tree on my BH, and it raised my dps by around 60 i think on my Proton Carbine.





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