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Thread: Thermals Make self?
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askeladden122
Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:35 am
#1
Hey,
Atm im doing thermals to grind fs with commando. But since thermals are very expensive so i was thinking maybe i can make myself?
So my questions are:
1. Do i need MASTER weaponsmith or will 0040 hold? Since somebody told me that your pts and weapon assembly/expermintation doesnt have that big role when you craft thermals?
2. What kind of resources are needed?
3. I need to finish this grinding now before the CU gets released, when do it release? about 3 months?
Atm im doing thermals to grind fs with commando. But since thermals are very expensive so i was thinking maybe i can make myself?
So my questions are:
1. Do i need MASTER weaponsmith or will 0040 hold? Since somebody told me that your pts and weapon assembly/expermintation doesnt have that big role when you craft thermals?
2. What kind of resources are needed?
3. I need to finish this grinding now before the CU gets released, when do it release? about 3 months?
KithSyn
Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:14 pm
#2
Many questions you have.....
Well, I wouldn't try to make them unless you are master.
Here is my suggestion if you can't afford that 200k-275k a crate (kauri prices)...
Get with your guildies (assuming you are in one) and have them gather the resources you need (along with your help of course), and ask the WS if he will make the factory run if you gather the resources. My WS was more than happy to oblige since I did all the hard work of gathering. That way with a little help from guildies you can get a fac run of 40 crates for FREE....or at least a small cost for the WS using his factory and him making the schems.
KithSyn
Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:15 pm
#3
Also, I did mine for proton grenades (usable at master commando), so I have no idea of thermals.
And the CU is unknown as to the time it will go live. I think a dev said shorter than a mini-publish but less than a year.....clear as mud right? 
I'd say between 2-6 mos....just a guess.
blaketheone
Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:20 pm
#4
275k a crate on kauri OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wanderhomes thermals are under 50k
EnSab
Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:05 am
#6
askeladden122 wrote:
What resources do a thermal need?
Thermal grenades require :
10 Metal
15 Thoranium Steel (usually a rare resource)
1 Polymer
3 Crism Siliclastic Ore (usually a rare resource)
and 3 components:
1 Warhead Stabilizing Device
1 Warhead Fusing Mechanism
1 Medium Warhead Mechanism
They are quite a feast to craft as I am finding out myself
Check for resources at SWGCraft.com
DarkFloyd
Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:22 pm
#7
The subcomponents are the biggest problem as I understand, since you are talking about 4 factory runs to make the thermals... one for each of the components and one for the grenades themselves. Also, grenades have high complexity, so it takes forever to actually manufacture these things.
Proton grenades require FOUR components... but the worst thing for a WS to make would probably be rocket launchers... they require proton grenades (five factory runs just for this component), as well as 4 blaster power-handlers (identical), 2 scopes (identical), and 8projectile feed mechanisms (identical)... man, I see why Weaponsmiths hate making those. 9 factory runs to make a crate of them, haha...
The point is, thermals are a pain to make, but it could be worse.
Proton grenades require FOUR components... but the worst thing for a WS to make would probably be rocket launchers... they require proton grenades (five factory runs just for this component), as well as 4 blaster power-handlers (identical), 2 scopes (identical), and 8projectile feed mechanisms (identical)... man, I see why Weaponsmiths hate making those. 9 factory runs to make a crate of them, haha...
The point is, thermals are a pain to make, but it could be worse.
Bermag
Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:44 am
#8
Components:
Warhead fusing mech:
1. Requires 6 units of Amorphous Gemstone
2. Requires 4 units of Steel
3. Requires 3 units of Metal
4. Requires 3 units of Low Grade Ore
5. Requires 2 units of Metal
2. Requires 4 units of Steel
3. Requires 3 units of Metal
4. Requires 3 units of Low Grade Ore
5. Requires 2 units of Metal
High Cond+UT
Medium Warhead:
1. Requires 15 units of Metal
2. Requires 20 units of Steel
3. Requires 5 units of Metal
4. Requires 30 units of Reactive Gas
5. Requires 10 units of Radioactive
6. Requires 5 units of Polymer
2. Requires 20 units of Steel
3. Requires 5 units of Metal
4. Requires 30 units of Reactive Gas
5. Requires 10 units of Radioactive
6. Requires 5 units of Polymer
High DR+OQ
Warhead stabilizing component
1. Requires 5 units of Low Grade Ore
2. Requires 5 units of Carbonate Ore
3. Requires 6 units of Copper
4. Requires 5 units of Amorphous Gemstone
5. Requires 21 units of Inert Gas
6. Requires 3 units of Steel
2. Requires 5 units of Carbonate Ore
3. Requires 6 units of Copper
4. Requires 5 units of Amorphous Gemstone
5. Requires 21 units of Inert Gas
6. Requires 3 units of Steel
High Cond+UT
You could probably go up to 0-0-3-4 and get 7 exp points. That would still be inferior grenades to a master ws but usable (probably 500 less max dam).
You need to take the cost to grind ws into your calculations.
If I were you I would try to make some deal with a weaponsmith instead. For example, let him use your unused lots for factories/harvesters, get the resources for him to make the grenades etc
Handb00k
Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:35 am
#9
After spending around6 million on Thermals I did the WS grind and made them myself. when I was done with my grind, I totalled all my expenses up, threw all my resources into the factories and ground out a number of crates. All in all I came out with a small profit.
My tale :
I paid 150k for my first few crates. Then the WS ran out. (cost 2.25 million)
I then found some for around 180k. Boughtsome of them. (cost 1.8 mil)
Was chatting in group one night, mentioned prices and someone said, "
I'll make them for 85k per crate for you, if you guarantee to buy at least 20 crates." Done deal. (cost 1.7 million)
At this point the kindly WS ran out of resources and I was forced to grind WS and make them myself. I eventually made a run of75 crates and made a little profit (I never took resources/factory time/maint/power into account - If I did it would be a loss for sure). Even so, my bank balance was looking healthy again and I had enough xp to get all unlocks. (still waiting for phase 3 though)
MajPayne
Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:07 pm
#10
Only seen thermals/imps for 200k on Valcyn. Greedy sumamambitches =P
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