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Thread: Price Difference Thermal Dets/Imperial Dets

Magnus_Voss
Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:57 am
#1

Does anyone know what the price difference is between the two? Not overly wealthy so I might take Imperial Detonators as the better option.

Also, is the damage difference noticable? (I've heard that GBNs drop quicker with Imp Dets )



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HardwiredXMan
Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:05 pm
#2

Imp detonators have a higher max damage than thermals.....thermals only advantage is that they have armor peircing 2 and imp detonators have AP1......The average numbers of both that I have are as follows:



imperial detonators, spd 3.4, damage 1000 - 2100, AP1, Blast Damage (field tactics 3)


thermal detonators, spd 3.6, damage 850 - 1700, AP2, Blast damage(field tactics 4)


As far as price goes.....guess that depends on the server and what the resources are spawning like there. On Ahazi, they both are usually priced the same. I get mine for 37,500 per crate for both.....


However I use thermals and power them up.....they do about 2k - 4k damage on baz nitches. Imp detontators do about 4.5k damage for me when powered up but there's been a shortage of them lately and everyone seems to be making thermals...so I buy them.


Also, c22's are a lot cheaper and not that much of a drop in damage....I find that when I power them up, they do just a couple of hundred points less damage than unpowered thermals.....buying crates of c22's and pups are a lot cheaper than just buy crates of thermals or imp detonators.


My c22's look like this:


c-22, spd 3.6, damage 330 - 1500, AP1,blast damage (novice commando)


I power them up and get the max to 1900....only drawback is that you sometimes do less than 1000 damage, but not very often....matter of fact I finished off my last million xp with nothing but powered up c22's....they only cost me 20,000 per crate.



As far as thermals and imp detonators go.....there really isn't that big of a difference to me because my server has the resources and weaponsmiths who are willing to make them.....the available resources is probably the most important factor when considering the price.


Just make sure you shop around, there are some greedy WS out there.....one guy on my server was selling c22's for 150k per crate.....LOL....I laughed all the way to naboo to Giaman's shop and found thermals for 37,500 per crate.... Don't settle for the first few prices you see......ask around, shop around, make a post in your galaxies trade forums, ask friends....if you see a commando or grenadier....ask them where they get their nades from and then and only then should you commit to a particular price......it takes time...but it will save you millions in the long run becuase it will cost you MILLIONS to grind with nades.

Magnus_Voss
Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:03 pm
#3

This is such a n00b query, but when you say 'Power them up' you mean ....



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DevilPuppy
Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:29 pm
#4

put a weapon power up on em



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Tasmania
Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:35 pm
#5


Well Thermals are a little more difficult to make dur to the specific resources, but the Imp Det are not really all that easy either. Easy to make but takes6 days in a factory to make a full run. Also it takes 220k of resources. Not ony Steel and polymer but Ore Gemstone Inert Gas Reactive Gas and Radioactive Gas


I have a vendor stocking Imp det's (WP in sig) on the Bloodfin server. Damage is around 1085-2190 2.8 speed crate of 25 for 45k



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trifidac
Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:38 am
#6

Thermals have a 7m range vs. 5m for Imp Dets. Potential damage is comparible. However, thermals require two named resources. Imp Dets just need steel and polymer. So you'll probably find imp dets with better damage. No one on the Tarq server seems to even try to make anything besides C12's, C22's and Imp Dets anymore for just that reason.




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Bermag
Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:25 am
#7

If there is a shortage of good steel for grenades (high OQ+SR same requirements as for armor which bring prices up) then thermals are cheaper to make. Assuming you have the named resources of course. Imp detonators take 100k steel to make while Thermals need 10+15k (15k is Thoranium a named resource)



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super_moomoo
Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:34 am
#8

in response to your price question it totally depends on what server your on. I'm on lowca and most imp dets i see are around 80-100k. most thermal dets are 80-120k. i personally use the thermals just for the larger blast radius. however i have found myself mixing imps and thermals. throw 1 thermal then 1 imp. i also do that with c22's if i am having trouble finding imps or thermals. throw 1 c22 then 1 thermal or imp



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MajPayne
Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:01 pm
#9

god you guy have it nice, on Valcyn I have seen c22's for 80k, imp/thermals for 200k. Granted I wont pay that much for them lol.
Unreal7
Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:10 pm
#10

so far on radiant i've seen thermals from 60k a crate to 100k a crate. Imp dets from 90k a crate to 150k a crate. Personally i like thermals better myself. why? While it does a tiny bit less damage they are about a second faster a throw vs. imp dets and have a greater radius. I'm gonna estimate that i'm gonna end up spending somewhere around 10mil if i want to finish off all 6 branches if i want to do it all with grenades.



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00over0
Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:31 pm
#11

Giant baz nitches have a vulnerability to heat damage--so for them, thermals are the way to go (they are 25% resistant to blast, which is what Imp dets do). But it doesn't end up being a huge difference. I use Imp dets and I can casually cap twice on one set of buffs--can do it three times if there are no RL interruptions and I'm not chatting to stay awake.



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