Force Sensitive Archive
Thread: new blood on the terminals any day now...
pervel wrote:
The warning is good and all. But I disagree that BH's take mission on low-level Jedi because it is a challenge. If they wanted challenges, they would take on high-level Jedi much more than they apparently do now. They take these low-level missions because they expect them to be easy and because they hate Jedi for some reason. And they are probably right that they are easy in most cases. Even though the young padawan may have a complete non-Jedi template, not many players are actually well-trained in PvP and their template will usually be constructed with the grind in mind - that is for PvE mostly.
Even jedi went through school and had others or atleast a trainer nearby.
branny wrote:
pervel wrote:
The warning is good and all. But I disagree that BH's take mission on low-level Jedi because it is a challenge. If they wanted challenges, they would take on high-level Jedi much more than they apparently do now. They take these low-level missions because they expect them to be easy and because they hate Jedi for some reason. And they are probably right that they are easy in most cases. Even though the young padawan may have a complete non-Jedi template, not many players are actually well-trained in PvP and their template will usually be constructed with the grind in mind - that is for PvE mostly.
why do u say this? BH's are the most professional of all the occupations. It is very business oriented. They have a directive from the Empire, which is to obliterate all Jedi, and they get paid for it. This is game mechanics my friend. Hate is such a strong word......
That is a very RP way of looking at it. I do not believe that RP plays a big role for most players in games to be honest. There is a human behind the keyboard of both the BH and the Jedi. The human playing the BH knows he is hurting the human playing the Jedi. If "hate" is too strong a word, then let's say "dislike" instead.
You are right that it is a game mechanics. A very bad one in my opinion that has done nothing good for the game. We will have to live with that game mechanics until/unless we can get it fixed. All it has done is creating hate-tells, accusations of exploiting, creating distrust between players, almost taken over especially the BH forum with whining (and to a lesser extend the Jedi forum). One of the corner stones of SWG has from the start been "no forced PvP". Now we are seeing BH's wanting to extend the player bounty system to other professions. That really scares me for the sake of the game's future.
Even though I don't like this game mechanics I have decided to become a Jedi anyway. I will therefore accept this broken part of the game just like I have to accept bugs and other design oddities. I will play my Jedi carefully so that I hopefully can take as little part of this game mechanics as possible. If I am unlucky and get on the terminals, I will most likely offer a friendly BH to kill me so that I can minimise the xp loss and get back to the grind in peace.
I consider most of the BH's to be like the bullies in the school yard when we were kids. I could live with them then, so I think I can live with them now too.
reppgoa wrote:
Ok so what you really want is an online version of KOTOR. jedis running rampant everywhere. well i say fooyee to that. i am a MBH because i love the RP aspect. i become someone totally different when i hunt jedi. You wait until the first BH comes after you and your heart gets going 100 mph. then you tell me that is wasnt fun. so you lost some exp you said yourself you like the grind. so grind away just be sure to do it in cnet with every1 watching hehe.
i myself like the heart rate I get as I close in. My heart starts pounding when i hit the planet my mark is on, then I send out a seeker and calm down a bit, then i start out for the kill, 1500m, 1200m, 1100m, start eating food, heart's going faster, 800m, 500m, 300m, I slow down and make sure i'm ready, 200m, 100m, he's in range, i target. 10m, jump off the bike and start swinging.
The battle may only last 20 seconds but its the biggest rush in this game. I've yet to experience it from the other side of things though
reppgoa wrote:
Ok so what you really want is an online version of KOTOR. jedis running rampant everywhere. well i say fooyee to that. i am a MBH because i love the RP aspect. i become someone totally different when i hunt jedi. You wait until the first BH comes after you and your heart gets going 100 mph. then you tell me that is wasnt fun. so you lost some exp you said yourself you like the grind. so grind away just be sure to do it in cnet with every1 watching hehe.
I never said I wanted Jedi running around all over. The devs could have chosen many other ways to limit the visibility of Jedi in the game if that is the goal. Instead they chose a system that opens up a can of worms.
It is good for you that you enjoy RP. But if you are a reasonable person, I am sure that you prefer if the one you hunt down (and possible cause to lose xp) also enjoys it. If you don't care... well that would just prove my point about the flawed system.
Will I find it fun to be hunted? When I am strong enough as a Jedi and if I don't get ganked so that I don't stand a chance, I might start to see the thrill of it. But that is a long way into the future for me. But like I said before, by starting a Jedi I have accepted the flawed system. And you will not hear a single whine from me when/if I lose xp to a BH - not even if that BH chooses to gank or exploit to kill me. Most likely no BH will cause me to lose xp other than my guild-mate BH who will check the terminals daily for me. That is my silent protest against the system.