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Urrevenge
Tue May 10, 2005 6:07 pm
#1



First off... don't get me wrong, I love the adrenaline rush from getting hunted, but the negative xp downside out ways the adrenaline rush... that being said... Personally I believe, that so there is some fair chance for a Jedi Padawan to evenlevel, SOE/LucasArts/Dev's should...


1) A Jedi Padawan will not get Visibility before they have a filled a certain amount of Jedi Branches (boxes)


2) A Jedi Padawan will not get Visibility and/or be hunted by BH's while under a certain Combat Level (ex: 60-65 maybe)


I discussed this with a MBH that was hunting me, one out of the three that had already visited me at my house, to kill my low level butt. Of course I hid....you think I want to be in the hole again for another 200-400k of Jedi xp, especially as big a pain in the butt it is to get it back, with out getting in a group and chancing Visibiltiy/Terms again. The MBH, of all people ... actually agreed with me, that it was a good Idea and that it should be presented/suggested... maybe for once SOE will listen. What do you think of this Idea, do you agree??

Message Edited by Urrevenge on 05-10-2005 06:07 PM

Message Edited by Urrevenge on 05-26-2005 08:15 AM

Spinnthrift
Tue May 10, 2005 6:16 pm
#2

I disagree - for several reasons:


1: Combat level is decided by your template as a whole, not your *jedi* level. This would force people to give up a secondary profession just to keep them from being seen on the terms.


2: Paddies need to learn to fight. Newbie Jedi can fight back quite well even at low levels if they have an understanding of their template/skills and equipment. Jedi can't always fight off a gank, but that's another story.


3: Unless you set the level low - as in say ls at 4/x/x/2 and a couple of other skills at tier one, there can be no culling or stripping of skill by BH (countering their function). With no loss of exp from cloning (as I understand it) now... the paddy population will boom even more anyways.


4: The life of a Jedi/Dark Jedi is fraught with danger. Pandering and making it *safe* detracts from what it means to be one.



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JavaHulk
Tue May 10, 2005 6:29 pm
#3




Just get 4000 enh as soon as possible and your all set. Let the BH's come, I run faster than their speeders lol. Not that they ever get to keep those...


However, I do support scaling the number of hunters based on the jedi's CL. Like 1 for under cl 50, 2 for cl 51-60 3 for 71-80 and the full 5 for lvl 80's or whatever.


To the person who posted above me.... Really jedi shouldent have other skills. I do because I group xp so being lvl 80 is a requirement, but if I solo'd only an idiot would want a higher CL than they'v got to have. Lower the better for soloing.

Message Edited by JavaHulk on 05-10-2005 09:32 PM



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Zara-
Tue May 10, 2005 6:44 pm
#4

I disagree also, its survival of the fittest out there. If a Padawan wants to hunt in a group , he pays the penalty. Now if SOE were to adjust the Visibility it should only be throughaMaster/Apprentice type thing, one selected Jedi Knight that you are allowed to hunt with and can aid you when the BHers come for you.
tntsnipe
Tue May 10, 2005 6:47 pm
#5

I think that there should only be a certain amount of Bh who can pick up a mission on Jedi at one time, DEPENDING ON THEIR LEVEL,not like now how there can be 5 on anyone but eg.



Initiate (like not even paddy, no skills) : no BH


Paddy (like novice of anything level) : 1 BH


Paddy: (1 branch completed) : 2 BH


Paddy (2-3 branches) :3 BH


Paddy: (One mastery): 4 BH


Paddy : (2masteries): 5 BH


Paddy: (completed template) 6 BH


Knight and onwards: uncapped





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zukem
Tue May 10, 2005 7:09 pm
#6

I disagree also, any and all jedi should be hunted. But the way the system is now is kind of unfair. I think it's based on skill points used, so a novice paddy will more than likely be hurt more, since all his skills are 8 skill points. So if he has all 5 novice skills, it's 40 skill points used. Whereas if someone is say a LS 0/40/0, that's only 28 skill points. It should be based not on skill points used, but jedi respec points. Novice is worth 1, tier 1 is worth 2 points, and so on.



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ScarletSpider23
Tue May 10, 2005 7:11 pm
#7

Looks like a few BH's making comments in here, so here's my 2 pence worth.


I'm a low level padawan atm, i've got x4x2 LS, and all other novice bricks with TKM as base skills, thus giving me a CL of 74, so far i've been hunted twice as a result of grouping, luckily (and I really do mean luckily) i've succeeded in overthrowing both these BH's and they came for me fairly 1v1 no gank squads.



I see people who gank Jedi at any level below Knight as being lame, this is only my opinion. 1 thing I have seen proposed a few times is that MBH be converted to the same style of proffesion that Jedi is, make it harder to acquire, we don't spend 23 weeks or more of our time unlocking our Jedi to have 5 BH's come after us when we haven't even got a full novice brick (i've seen this happen). I agree that yes if the character is of Knight status or higher take more BH's but don't go over the top i.e no more than 5, uncapped amount of BH's is ridiculous for the plain and simple reason every bounty hunty would come out of the woodwork and you would just see a mass of dots appear on your radar as you're grinding to get a bit more xp banked for when you do die from a BH killing you.



At the moment a lot of bounty hunters are what I would call "half assed" templates, why? they have Bounty Hunter Investigation 3 :/ backed up with either rifles, carbines, pistols or in some cases TKM. Bounty Hunters have their own special weapon proficiencies like Jedi do with Force Powers or Lightsabers. Bounty hunters should only be able to hunt player Jedi at MBH no lower, this will then make players who want to hunt Jedi actually work at the profession rather than get so far up only to then sit there and say "i don't need anymore than 3xxx BH, i'm gonna go get a paddy" then they come crying in here or on the BH forums because they've had their asses handed to them after being slapped about by someone who's got MD on their Jedi template and saying Jedi are overpowered. In case you BH's missed it JEDI ARE POWERFUL! thats why they are able to use abilities that exceed any normal person.



So in short, make BH hunt Jedi at MBH that will give ALL PADAWANS more breathing space for grinding, also counter balances the visibility issue somewhat as there don't appear to be full fledged BH's on the server I play on.


I'm half expecting this response to get flamed to kingdom come, but what do I care? at the end of the day this is a game, and a game that is supposed to be as true to star wars as you can get. There are still some things that need ironing out everyone will admit that as there are flaws between this and the essence of star wars.





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Lowri
Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:33 am
#8


Message Edited by Lowri on 07-19-2005 04:34 AM

Melachis
Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:34 am
#9

Whip
Brettheman
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:02 am
#10

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