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Thread: Devs/csr's need to just start giving ppl with the phase 4 problem a free unlock

Vatslav
Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:07 am
#40



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ExcaliburCH
Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:54 am
#41


Vatslav wrote:

scooter.. to claim for a free unlock is not only cheap, its also not worthy for a real jedi.

It took the devs also a couple of days until the recognized the rubberbanding. But it was reported in Test before that publish went to live. I would immediatly agree, when the devs make the phase 4 lasting longer 1 or 2 weeks. But no free unlock. As I said.. Otherwise I want one too for all the suffering I had. And than, everybody wants free skills, branches or whatever. And I never said, that it is only your (in person) problem. There are some out there which have those problems. It doesn't matter if the quest is easy or not. That doesn't qualify you to get it for free! Period. And I 1 stared you, because I read around 20 postings from you and in each and everyone you were complaining the same over and over again. And now you claim for a free unlock *sigh*

Begging for a free unlock is .. well... very childish..
Now you can give me another 1 star as I did with your answer


First of all.....I see you haven't been grinding for Jedi......Seccond.....Most of the people who want free unlock has allready been banking XP (that means, they grinded 1.225.000 Fs XP) and thats over 3 million of normal XP
I personally, could allready be doing the padawan quest (as many others).....but no, I need to wait and God knows for how long......WHY??? is it ouer fault that devolePOORs messed that up?????? I dont think its childish to request free unlock.....and I think they might as well start giving people free unlocks instead of wasting time. I want a free unlock if they dont fix it VERY SOON, and in this case, time is money cause we all pay 15-17$......It would be different if the game was free, but its not......so I hope either Dev's fix it or start giving free unlocks (at least I want it, cause I have been working long time and it was not a walk in the park)
SO I support Scooter 110% in his idea of geting a free unlock!

Message Edited by Vatslav on 02-08-2005 03:28 PM





First.. you are wrong.. I am grinding for jedi. I only need 300k more fsxp for my last branch. I understand the point of scoooter but still disagree for the free unlock. I could be Jedi since 12 weeks already, but I was to lazy to do the quest.. I suffered the rubberband as every person did, who was online this time.. did we get something for free?!

I surely would also be upset, if I would be in that situation. I also support that those people state their problem. That is their good right to do so. But when I look only into this forum. There are already about 5 topics only for that bug. There are other topics/posting in other forums also about that bug.
I know, that this is a big issue for those people who can't unlock! But it doesn't help them nor anybody else, when they fall over such topics all 5 meters

But I also have to admit that an ETA from the Devs would be more than needed right now!
So, please no hard feelings that I only partialy share your thoughts. I don't have hard feelings that you can't share mine. Peace

cheers
Exi

Message Edited by ExcaliburCH on 02-08-2005 07:58 PM



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Vatslav
Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:05 pm
#42

peace





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drmidnight
Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:42 pm
#43

The thing is... and you'll read this a lot... melee defense is NOT one of those quests you can say, "well, I don't really need this... I'll do some other quest." Basically, you're now limited to grinding senses for this phase or crafting. Reflexes and Combat are out of the equation with a bugged Capt Sarguillo. Melee defense is a necessity for new jedi (although you certainly don't need it.. but think of the implications of not having that extra +20 melee defense) -- plain and simple. The more time that passes - the harder it will be to complete this darn quest as there will be less people grinding in the village to kill their 50 sith outlaws and 25 sith pirates. So, all in all, two weeks may not be long enough to finish the quest since most of us don't live @ the computer 24/7. I think that a pertinent solution to this problem is to just apologize for the bugs (hey, they happen) and at least compensate us by either a) giving us the quest unlock or b) perhaps giving us credit for time lost (say 25 sith outlaws killed and 12 sith pirates killed). There must be some sort of equation to balance things out due to lost time. If 3 weeks goes by and nothing happens - we should get the free unlock.



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Firangel4
Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:27 pm
#44



I don't come here much and I don't like posting on the forums because I hate getting in pissing fights with people about stuff but thats beyond the point. The point here is we are paying 15 dollars roughly every 3 weeks, now every 3 weeks the phases change so lets look at this in the viewpoint of money. I just spent 90 dollars to spend 6 phases in a village to maybe some day become a Jedi. So if this isn't fixed by the end of the phase I just wasted 15 dollars on a bug phase and now have to wait another 9 weeks till the next phase which is another 45 dollars down the drain. So I would expect a Free unlock to be able to grind out the branch I don't care.


I don't care how childish asking for a Free Unlock is we pay money here to Become whatever we want. Now this is what they get for making the system the way they did.


Now a Jedi wouldn't beg for a Free Unlock because he wouldn't be bugged by such a dumb bug.

Message Edited by Firangel4 on 02-08-2005 03:32 PM



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axiomBOTD
Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:27 pm
#45






Firangel4 wrote:



I don't come here much and I don't like posting on the forums because I hate getting in pissing fights with people about stuff but thats beyond the point. The point here is we are paying 15 dollars roughly every 3 weeks, now every 3 weeks the phases change so lets look at this in the viewpoint of money. I just spent 90 dollars to spend 6 phases in a village to maybe some day become a Jedi. So if this isn't fixed by the end of the phase I just wasted 15 dollars on a bug phase and now have to wait another 9 weeks till the next phase which is another 45 dollars down the drain. So I would expect a Free unlock to be able to grind out the branch I don't care.


I don't care how childish asking for a Free Unlock is we pay money here to Become whatever we want. Now this is what they get for making the system the way they did.


Now a Jedi wouldn't beg for a Free Unlock because he wouldn't be bugged by such a dumb bug.



Now i may misread this one and others but are you asking for a free unlocked branch as in the branch itselfbut still need to grind the 4 boxes in it? Or do you mean the full unlocked branch which they give you the full xp to like they did with the holo credit? If it is the first one then I think that is fair. I am already from last phase 4 but personally i think that is very fair. Now if someone thinks they should get it free filled also needs their head examined. Phase 4 only takes from 30mins to an hr if not 2 hrs and it's not hard so i would support getting the branch unlocked for free.

Message Edited by axiomBOTD on 02-08-2005 04:29 PM



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Scoooter
Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:56 pm
#46






axiomBOTD wrote:






Firangel4 wrote:



I don't come here much and I don't like posting on the forums because I hate getting in pissing fights with people about stuff but thats beyond the point. The point here is we are paying 15 dollars roughly every 3 weeks, now every 3 weeks the phases change so lets look at this in the viewpoint of money. I just spent 90 dollars to spend 6 phases in a village to maybe some day become a Jedi. So if this isn't fixed by the end of the phase I just wasted 15 dollars on a bug phase and now have to wait another 9 weeks till the next phase which is another 45 dollars down the drain. So I would expect a Free unlock to be able to grind out the branch I don't care.


I don't care how childish asking for a Free Unlock is we pay money here to Become whatever we want. Now this is what they get for making the system the way they did.


Now a Jedi wouldn't beg for a Free Unlock because he wouldn't be bugged by such a dumb bug.



Now i may misread this one and others but are you asking for a free unlocked branch as in the branch itselfbut still need to grind the 4 boxes in it? Or do you mean the full unlocked branch which they give you the full xp to like they did with the holo credit? If it is the first one then I think that is fair. I am already from last phase 4 but personally i think that is very fair. Now if someone thinks they should get it free filled also needs their head examined. Phase 4 only takes from 30mins to an hr if not 2 hrs and it's not hard so i would support getting the branch unlocked for free.

Message Edited by axiomBOTD on 02-08-2005 04:29 PM




I dont care about the xp, I have the xp banked. I just want to train


No not a full branch unlock, just to be able to apply the xp and be able to move on


So yes the first








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Scoooter
Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:00 pm
#47






ExcaliburCH wrote:
scooter.. to claim for a free unlock is not only cheap, its also not worthy for a real jedi.

It took the devs also a couple of days until the recognized the rubberbanding. But it was reported in Test before that publish went to live. I would immediatly agree, when the devs make the phase 4 lasting longer 1 or 2 weeks. But no free unlock. As I said.. Otherwise I want one too for all the suffering I had. And than, everybody wants free skills, branches or whatever. And I never said, that it is only your (in person) problem. There are some out there which have those problems. It doesn't matter if the quest is easy or not. That doesn't qualify you to get it for free! Period. And I 1 stared you, because I read around 20 postings from you and in each and everyone you were complaining the same over and over again. And now you claim for a free unlock *sigh*

Begging for a free unlock is .. well... very childish..
Now you can give me another 1 star as I did with your answer

cheers
Exi

Message Edited by ExcaliburCH on 02-08-2005 01:39 PM

Message Edited by ExcaliburCH on 02-08-2005 01:56 PM




So far day 6 and what we have from the devs is that they are looking into the reported problem.


Thats not good enough we need progress.


Some people have RL obligations that make it necessary to unlcok the branch. If you are assuming I am saying like a holo unlock where they give the xp I am not. We just want to be able to train earned xp.


Most of us experiencing this it is our last branch and we would be gated for 12 weeks







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BizekAltar
Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:43 pm
#48

I'm not agree with the free unlock and I'm sure that dev's work on fixing the bug. I think the better way is to fix the bug (anyway they will have to do it) and make the quest longer of the time it took to fix it. I also only need this unlock to get my jedi i already have the xp stored but screaming at the devs wont help.


Lets only them do their work they are human they can do mistake. I'm sure that they will fix it soon (in fact i hope) they are great programmer who have done this game that we love so much.





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Scoooter
Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:17 pm
#49






BizekAltar wrote:

I'm not agree with the free unlock and I'm sure that dev's work on fixing the bug. I think the better way is to fix the bug (anyway they will have to do it) and make the quest longer of the time it took to fix it. I also only need this unlock to get my jedi i already have the xp stored but screaming at the devs wont help.


Lets only them do their work they are human they can do mistake. I'm sure that they will fix it soon (in fact i hope) they are great programmer who have done this game that we love so much.









These people will not even communicate the priority of this over what is on their plate already.


All that they have said is "there are looking into reports of a bug"


With no communiication I am not as confident as you.


It has been proven that screaming is the only thing they respond to. Besides unless people post aboput it and explain the urgency they cannot gauge the community effect.


I hate to tell you, but SOE's QA is the worst I have seen. I have been a developer for quite along time and if I did what they do constantly I would be fired. So I wouldn't place them in the "great" catagory.


Also "We are looking into it" is not an acknowledgement of the bug


Message Edited by Scoooter on 02-08-2005 10:21 PM



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Firangel4
Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:05 pm
#50


I meant I just want credit for completing the mission I don't want the whole branch done for me that would be nice but I just want the abilitly to Train the skills. Right now this bug has put a Whole Road block in front of my Progress, every day i go to the village I see people starting to get less and less and more and more sith running around. By time this gets fixed There will be almost 20 sith to one of us no matter how long u stretch the phase it will be sucide.

Message Edited by Firangel4 on 02-08-2005 10:06 PM



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iskareot
Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:02 am
#51






Scoooter wrote:

The Dev's have chosen to compound theproblem of this phase 4 bug by adding the frustration because of zero communication


There are many of us that that need this line to complete


In the case ofservers like Valcyn the quest becaomes nearly impossible after the first few days bacause of the massive amounts of siths and it takes several days to complete. In the first few days it is more doable because the people are there to group with. Getting a group together will be very difficult soon.


The Dev's have CHOSEN not to communicate, they know about this. Their lack of any sort of communication is by CHOICE.


They need to end the frustration.


They wonder whenmake posts to improvecommunity relations they get a flame fest. Their handling of this with the lack of communication is a prime example









Im a Old school jedi , do me a favor let me know if they give you guys a free unlock. If I had a dollar for all the first probs and lack of communication with jedi... I would be rich beyond what I would need.


No offense... but some patience will help you... and yes it did use over 12 months ago.





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ExcaliburCH
Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:29 am
#52



Scoooter wrote:

Some people have RL obligations that make it necessary to unlcok the branch.weeks







Do you know how that sounds? You will die in real, when you can't unlock this branch. What a waste of a life *sigh* Jesus Christ people.. This is a game. A piece of software. No RL obligation makes it necessary to unlock anything in this game. Except you wanna trade your jedi toon on ebay, which is forbidden by the EULA anyway.

If you really have the need to unlock a branch, because of your RL obligations, than you really should think over, if gaming is the right thing for your RL situation *shakes head*

cheers
Exi



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