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ordio

Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:30 am

Treemorr wrote:
I don't think Valcyn (or Bria) will change on Saturday August 6th, I reckon they will shift on Thursday 4th August, or if Publish 21 happens on Wednesday then could be then too, as Valcyn was supposed to have shifted on the Tuesday before, so was just a few ticks short, and would have definately shifted Wednesday if there was a reset, so highly predict that Valcyn will change on Thursday August 4th.

I predicted the 6th because...

1. The shift change for Valcyn and Bria (group 1) was Thursday July 14, 2005. (As listed in post #1 and #2).

2. The phases lasts 1814400 seconds... (or 21 days as a general rule)... Servers do their reboot tuesday, thursday and saturday at around 4am pst. Assuming that lasts around 90 minutes, or longer for a publish update... that's 5400 seconds off the total time... and that's (within 3 weeks) about 48600 seconds... (or 810 minutes or 13 1/2 hours)... So with this in mind, come Thursday August 4th, 2005 the server uptime will be short approximately 13 1/2 hours before shift change (total approx time since last phase change come the 4th will be about 176,5800 seconds). So with this in mind, the server cannot change on thursday.... which is why i predicted Saturday.

3. My prediction of the Tuesday before is the same rule as #2 above... short about 13 1/2 hours on the Tuesday...

4. I agree that if there was a reset on Wednesday, then yes Valcyn and Bria would have shifted... but they didn't... The countdown doesn't start until the server reset happens and the actual phase changes. Which is why they did change on thursday (and not mid wednesday)... With this in mind, if there was a server reset on Friday August 5th, then it is possible that the phase will switch...

5. Unless a HOTFIX is intended on a day that is not a normal server reset day (like this past wednesday), then that will increase the amount of time before the next phase change... But as i'm guessing it was approx 90 mins, then just adding to the 13 1/2 hours brings it out to 15 hours difference...

6. I really should use HOURS instead of weeks for the overall phase discussion... makes it less confusing.

My prediction (which was correct when changing to phase 3 for all servers, except for one as i had that server reported being changed on 2 separate dates) stands where it is...

Thanks for your thoughts on this... got my brain working this morning after being up late last night.. Lol...

Valcyn: Etevei Iomag (CL 90 Jedi/Master Ace Smuggler Pilot), Ordio (Master Trader-Engineer)
Valcyn #2: Eppav Iomag (CL75 Smuggler), Yve Iomag (Master Entertainer). Living in Galatorbria, Rori.
Vendor located just outside of Restuss at (/wayp 4878 6375) - Spice, Looted Weapons, Armor, Buff Items and other Misc items. This is also the drop off location
Sunrunner: Mumybecca (CL 14 BH).

Treemorr

Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:11 pm

#249

Valcyn has been known to shift on the exact 3 weeks before, so I've come to the conclusion that the 3 weeks starts when the 1814400 seconds has counted down, (so here the countdown would have restarted between Tuesday 12th after 5am, and Wednesday 13th July) or that there is an ongoing timer, and changes when its divisible by 1814400, as its impossible for a phase to change exactly 3 weeks after the last one, due to the downtime.

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No news is bad news, going by SOEs track record.

I suspect that Trader/Enteratiner will end up being worse off, and they're not saying anything, as people will quit because of it.

I'm going to quit when the sub runs out, and return if the revamps are worthwhile, unless knowledge of the revamps come before subs run out, and I like it, but I'm not going into day 1 of the new month, then the revamps get announced, and my char is shafted.

ordio

Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:11 pm

#250

Treemorr wrote:
Valcyn has been known to shift on the exact 3 weeks before, so I've come to the conclusion that the 3 weeks starts when the 1814400 seconds has counted down, (so here the countdown would have restarted between Tuesday 12th after 5am, and Wednesday 13th July) or that there is an ongoing timer, and changes when its divisible by 1814400, as its impossible for a phase to change exactly 3 weeks after the last one, due to the downtime.

As we are both on the Valcyn server i'm sure we watch closely when Valcyn switches phases...

But if the countdown started between the 12th after 5am and before the 13th of july, wouldn't we have been in phase 3 on Tuesday? Don't forget that the server has to be restarted for the phase to change... and considering the phase didn't change until Thursday at server downtime, then the timer didn't start until Thursday at server bootup...

If the server did reboot on the 13th, then valcyn would have been in phase 3... but it wasn't... so it can't count down the seconds until the phase officially starts.

Valcyn: Etevei Iomag (CL 90 Jedi/Master Ace Smuggler Pilot), Ordio (Master Trader-Engineer)
Valcyn #2: Eppav Iomag (CL75 Smuggler), Yve Iomag (Master Entertainer). Living in Galatorbria, Rori.
Vendor located just outside of Restuss at (/wayp 4878 6375) - Spice, Looted Weapons, Armor, Buff Items and other Misc items. This is also the drop off location
Sunrunner: Mumybecca (CL 14 BH).

Treemorr

Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:54 am

#251

ordio wrote:

But if the countdown started between the 12th after 5am and before the 13th of july, wouldn't we have been in phase 3 on Tuesday?

No as the server shutdown before the countdown ended. Taking into account all the server resets its impossible for a server to shift on the exact 3 weeks, but Valcyn has done it, so the only explanation for that is, that the countdown does not start when the server is back up, and village phase has shifted, it restarts when the last countdown has ended, but sends an instruction to shift the phase at the next boot up

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No news is bad news, going by SOEs track record.

I suspect that Trader/Enteratiner will end up being worse off, and they're not saying anything, as people will quit because of it.

I'm going to quit when the sub runs out, and return if the revamps are worthwhile, unless knowledge of the revamps come before subs run out, and I like it, but I'm not going into day 1 of the new month, then the revamps get announced, and my char is shafted.

Zukaa

Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:37 am

#252

phase 3 now and it sucks.. know why.. due to the fact that the sith commander doesnt run, EVERYONE camps at the base nearest to the village.. on Ahazi is NU.. so everyone is trying to steal from each other.. whoever brings down the shield first wins.. hahah this has cause TONS of pissed off ppl..

bustabrim

Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:50 am

#253

when will there be a phase change to 4 in scylla the list stpped a june we are in August

SteveL

Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:30 am

#254

bustabrim wrote:

when will there be a phase change to 4 in scylla the list stpped a june we are in August

check the first post on the first page of this thread

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Treemorr

Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:03 am

#255

That list isn't accurate, for starters Valcyn shifted on Tuesday 12th April (or could have been the Monday) to phase 3, but was certainly not Wednesday 13th April. Why? beacuse I had a day off work then, and would have made sure I won the Phase 2 crafting quest, by giving the Binary Load Lifter more resources before server shut down!

We'll see, preferably I want Valcyn to shift on the Saturday, but as I reckon it will be Thursday I will need tofinish my quest before hand, just in case.

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No news is bad news, going by SOEs track record.

I suspect that Trader/Enteratiner will end up being worse off, and they're not saying anything, as people will quit because of it.

I'm going to quit when the sub runs out, and return if the revamps are worthwhile, unless knowledge of the revamps come before subs run out, and I like it, but I'm not going into day 1 of the new month, then the revamps get announced, and my char is shafted.

ordio

Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:42 am

#256

Treemorr wrote:

That list isn't accurate, for starters Valcyn shifted on Tuesday 12th April (or could have been the Monday) to phase 3, but was certainly not Wednesday 13th April. Why? beacuse I had a day off work then, and would have made sure I won the Phase 2 crafting quest, by giving the Binary Load Lifter more resources before server shut down!

We'll see, preferably I want Valcyn to shift on the Saturday, but as I reckon it will be Thursday I will need tofinish my quest before hand, just in case.

Wow... why are you so nit-picky about this? I didn't make that original list... whether it shifted on the 12th or 13th, does it matter? it's still not exactly 3 weeks since the phase switch... that is 3 1/2 weeks in fact...

But i can be nit-picky too.. here's the link to the post where Valcyn was listed as have shifted.. This is the confirmation of the day that valcyn shifted...

Confirmation that Valcyn did not shift on the 12th of April...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Forcesensitive&message.id=64650#M64650

Confirmation that Valcyn did shift on the 13th of April.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Forcesensitive&message.id=64928#M64928

Double confirmation that Valcyn did shift on the 13th of April.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Forcesensitive&message.id=64958#M64958

Yes, we shall wait until Thursday to see...

But please stop this debate... i don't understand what your need is to debate this ina post that has to do with when the phases work...My post is based on history... i've put my post up... i've listened to your thought on when the phases will switch. Heck, you haven't even given me proof where this "3 week valcyn shift" was... all you've done is try and either provoke me (or anyone else) by being picky about a date that i didn't even report on (but i've given proof on when Valcyn did switch). or tell me you are correct and that that is the way it is. But you haven't given me proof... Please provide proof and then we can move on...

Thank you for the debate...

Valcyn: Etevei Iomag (CL 90 Jedi/Master Ace Smuggler Pilot), Ordio (Master Trader-Engineer)
Valcyn #2: Eppav Iomag (CL75 Smuggler), Yve Iomag (Master Entertainer). Living in Galatorbria, Rori.
Vendor located just outside of Restuss at (/wayp 4878 6375) - Spice, Looted Weapons, Armor, Buff Items and other Misc items. This is also the drop off location
Sunrunner: Mumybecca (CL 14 BH).

Treemorr

Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:46 am

#257

ordio wrote:

whether it shifted on the 12th or 13th, does it matter?

Yes, because it means that list is not accurate, and everything you said prior in realtion to that list is also no accurate, and also the 3 week shift could be in there, but as its not accurate, you can't see it.....or so I thought, after reading those posts and checking my email for the phase 2 crafting quest it does seem that it did indeed change on the Wednesday, my mistake was that the server for some reason didn't reset on that day, when I thought it did, but as I was at work I didn't realise that, and was unawares.

I would have posted eariler, but been busy banging my head against a brick wall, as could have won the phase 2 crafting quest then. The Force was with me on the Tuesday/Wednesday and I didn't listen! Aaaaarrrrghhhh!

Also I wasn't trying to provoke anyone, just initally stating that it could change on the Thusday, so people wouldn't stuff their phase 3 quest if leaving it toafter Thursdayor something, going on the basis that I'm sure we've had a 3 week shift before, got no proof, just that I can remember it changing the same day as the previous one, one time, and you've haven't been too positive about the countdown, from the way your saying things, it sounds likethe countdown starts when new phase actually starts on reset, is only a strong assumption and not a positive actual fact

Just one question - Are you 100% positive that the phase on Valcyn will change on Saturday 6th Aug (or later) and NOT Thursday 4th (or Friday 5th if reset for some reason)?

If the answer is NO, then a lot of people could stuff up their phase 3 quest by leaving it too late, which was my intent with my initial post on this matter.

===============================================================================
No news is bad news, going by SOEs track record.

I suspect that Trader/Enteratiner will end up being worse off, and they're not saying anything, as people will quit because of it.

I'm going to quit when the sub runs out, and return if the revamps are worthwhile, unless knowledge of the revamps come before subs run out, and I like it, but I'm not going into day 1 of the new month, then the revamps get announced, and my char is shafted.

ordio

Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:35 am

#258

Treemorr wrote:

ordio wrote:

whether it shifted on the 12th or 13th, does it matter?

Yes, because it means that list is not accurate, and everything you said prior in realtion to that list is also no accurate, and also the 3 week shift could be in there, but as its not accurate, you can't see it.....or so I thought, after reading those posts and checking my email for the phase 2 crafting quest it does seem that it did indeed change on the Wednesday, my mistake was that the server for some reason didn't reset on that day, when I thought it did, but as I was at work I didn't realise that, and was unawares.

I would have posted eariler, but been busy banging my head against a brick wall, as could have won the phase 2 crafting quest then. The Force was with me on the Tuesday/Wednesday and I didn't listen! Aaaaarrrrghhhh!

Also I wasn't trying to provoke anyone, just initally stating that it could change on the Thusday, so people wouldn't stuff their phase 3 quest if leaving it toafter Thursdayor something, going on the basis that I'm sure we've had a 3 week shift before, got no proof, just that I can remember it changing the same day as the previous one, one time, and you've haven't been too positive about the countdown, from the way your saying things, it sounds likethe countdown starts when new phase actually starts on reset, is only a strong assumption and not a positive actual fact

Just one question - Are you 100% positive that the phase on Valcyn will change on Saturday 6th Aug (or later) and NOT Thursday 4th (or Friday 5th if reset for some reason)?

If the answer is NO, then a lot of people could stuff up their phase 3 quest by leaving it too late, which was my intent with my initial post on this matter.

Very well.. i will answer your questions...

My assumption is that group #1 will switch on Saturday... and not Thursday... I'm 100% positive that it will switch on saturday based on historical facts of the phase shifts, and the fact that the timer starts over when the phase has shifted. If there's a reset on friday, obviously i believe that it would switch then instead of saturday as the timer would have run out by mid day thursday...

In regards to your argument about the timer restarting immediately after it finishes its countdown, there's a flaw in your logic in this... and here's why...

If the timer started before the phase shifted, wouldn't the phase last less than 3 weeks? All phases have lasted 3 weeks and then some # of days/hours... Also i believe the 3 day a week restarts started around here... (Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday).

For example...

Phase 2: Tue, Dec 21st:All Servers (assume 5:30am PST)

2005:

Phase 3: Wed, Jan 12th:Valcyn (early due to crash/reboot)

Phase 3: Thu, Jan 13th: All Servers (except Valcyn)

Assume that the timer restarted at approx 1pm (3 days a week restart, 60 minutes each)...on the 11th of January. It couldn't have restarted on Tuesday due to the lag time left over.

Phase 4:Thu, Feb 3rd:Valcyn

Phase 4:Sat, Feb 5rd:All Servers (except Valcyn and Infinity)

Phase 4:Tue, Feb 9th:Infinity

Ok, so Valcyn on Thursday restarted... Assuming another 3 days/week restart, the timer would have ran out at approx 10pm on Tuesday... so it couldn't have been switched on the Tuesday either.

Phase 1:Fri, Feb 25th:Valcyn

Phase 1:Sat, Feb 26th:Chimaera, FarStar

Phase 1:Tue, Mar 1st:All Servers (except Valcyn, Chimaera, FarStar, and Infinity)

Phase 1:Wed, Mar 2nd:Infinity

Ok, so another 3 day/week restart: 6am Wednesday timer. Ok, i thought there were restarts on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.. why on friday? Maybe they went back to daily restarts... irregardless, Valcyn switched 3 weeks and 1 day later... Based on your assumption, Valcyn should have switched on Thursday Feb 24th...

Phase 2: Sat, Mar 19th: Valcyn

Phase 2: Tue, Mar 22nd: Chimaera, FarStar

Phase 2: Wed, Mar 23rd: Bria

Phase 2: Thu, Mar 24th: All Servers (Except Valcyn, Chimaera, FarStar, and Bria)

Here's another example... 6pm Wednesday (Mar 16th) timer ended, restarted... but reset on Saturday?

Phase 3: Wed, Apr 13th: Valcyn

Phase 3: Thu, Apr 14th: Bria, Chimaera, FarStar

Phase 3: Fri, Apr 15th: Ahazi, Bloodfin, Chilastra, Flurry, Lowca, Naritus,Radiant, Shadowfire, Sunrunner

Phase 3: Sat, Apr 16th: Infinity

Phase 3: Mon, Apr 18th: Corbantis, Eclipse, Gorath, Intrepid, Kauri, Kettemoor,Scylla, Starsider, Tarquinas, Tempest, Wanderhome

Whoa... this is 3 1/2 weeks after the last Valcyn switch... my assumption is that this is where we had daily resets for this case. In this case, that's 7 hours a week (or 21 hours)... So the timer would have restarted Thursday (April 7th). Wouldn't the switch have happened anytime before this??

Phase 4:Fri,May 6th:Valcyn

Phase 4:Sat,May 7th:Bria, FarStar

Phase 4:Mon,May 9th:Sunrunner

Phase 4:Tue,May 10th:Ahazi, Chilastra, Infinity, Lowca, Naritus, Radiant

Phase 4:Wed,May 11th:Bloodfin, Corbantis, Eclipse, Flurry, Gorath, Intrepid, Kettemoor, Scylla, Shadowfire, Starsider, Tarquinas, Wanderhome

Phase 4:Thu,May 12th:Kauri

Phase 4:Tue,May 17th:Chimaera

Now here's the biggie... Daily resets, same thing based on your timer, if it had restarted on the 7th of April, wouldn't the next phase switch be approx the 28th/29th of April (3 weeks and a day)... Isn't that correct? We would have seen the phase shift a week before the 3 weeks ended... and the phase would have lasted only 2 weeks long.

I know the CU came into effect around this time... which is why chimaera shifted so much later because of their rollback...

Phase 1: Mon, May 30th: Bria, Valcyn

Phase 1: Tue, May 31st: FarStar

Phase 1: Wed, June 1st: Sunrunner

Phase 1: Thu, June 2nd: Ahazi, Chilastra, Corbantis, Eclipse, Flurry, Gorath, Infinity, Intrepid, Lowca, Naritus, Radiant, Shadowfire, Tempest, Wanderhome

Phase 1: Sat, June 4th: Bloodfin, Kauri, Kettemoor, Scylla, Starsider, Tarquinas

Phase 1: Wed, June 8th: Chimaera

Ok, so if the timer continues from where it started, and the timer ran out on the 28th/29th of April, then the next phase shift would have been May 19th/20th... The phase would have only lasted 2 weeks.

Should i need to continue the next 2 phases or do you get my point of view? To me, this is a fact that the phase timer restarts once the phase has actually switched... Does this make sense now? The proof is up above...

Also, i'm by all means not someone who wants to do my phase quests once the phase switches immediately.. i wait a week, or 2... If the timer ran out when you say, i would have lost my chance in a couple of phases as i take my progress slow... But for those that know that the phases lasts 3 weeks, we'd have a lot of very unhappy people because the phase shifted earlier than the 3 weeks...

Valcyn: Etevei Iomag (CL 90 Jedi/Master Ace Smuggler Pilot), Ordio (Master Trader-Engineer)
Valcyn #2: Eppav Iomag (CL75 Smuggler), Yve Iomag (Master Entertainer). Living in Galatorbria, Rori.
Vendor located just outside of Restuss at (/wayp 4878 6375) - Spice, Looted Weapons, Armor, Buff Items and other Misc items. This is also the drop off location
Sunrunner: Mumybecca (CL 14 BH).

The_Origional_Frills

Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:44 pm

#259

Sorry but I am lazy and don't want to sift through all the pages, but what does a phase shift mean?

Friller, Radiant Server

Eiboes

Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:53 am

#260

ok

Why have they nerfed the conversion rate of medical and combat XP to FS. This is total crap. I have been going for jedi now for the last 6 months, and becuse they try to make less jedi and punish the 24/7 grinders out there, it means i have to suffer too, Well im sorry but i feel my account closing soon. it was going to take me another 7 weeks to complete to unlock Jedi, Now it will probably take me 4 months.

Just how much money do you want to get out of us SoE?

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