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Thread: Who will leave if phase 4 shifts and u cant get melee def/Ranged speed?

fixthisbugs
Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:49 pm
#14

i leave for sure



its my last unlock i need and cant get it....(all xp banked too)




if phase shift no fix i must wait 4months for phase 4 again to become jedi



no way then i quit
SpaceCrazy
Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:19 pm
#15


Scoooter wrote:

Those that say this is not worth quitting over becaus ethey will have worse trials. Well Jedi isn't that hard lol. Those of you that say thet work your rear ends off for six months and then be forced to wait 12 weeks. Let's see how you feel about it then.

The biggest nail in the coffin is the no communication. They have not even acknowledged the bug officially let alone let us know what is being done or if there will be a contingency plan.



So Jedi isn't that hard? Certainly not what I hear, between having to be careful to avoid picking up visibility, to possible hit squads after you when you do get on the terms, to millions of Jedi xp needed being gained at Novice Brawler level to start with, it sounds pretty hard.

I will grant that I would probably be more upset if I had the xp banked and needed this quest to get Jedi. But I certainly wouldn't contemplate quitting over it. There are still two weeks left in this Phase. With the number of people bugged (including my Scylla char), there will be plenty of others to do kill the sith with once the bug is fixed. Plus I've seen others who weren't bugged say they will go back and help too. And if by some chance it doesn't get fixed. SOE will HAVE to provide some compenstation to avoid public outcry. Either by extending the length of Phase 4 or by unlocking those that were bugged.

And they have acknowledged the bug offically. It's in Tiggs' daily issues threads:

Reported Issues for Publish 13.0

Jedi
* Phase 4 Village Quest is not working properly - bugged and is currently being worked on.



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starwarsmark
Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:56 pm
#16

I will, in fact I am ready to leave now regardless because of the way it was handled. Anyone know how I can get out of my year long prepay, as in get a refund?



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jd2134
Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:10 pm
#17

i will

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Moshkaine
Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:18 am
#18

i said id never leave this game for another mmorpg, but tonight a frinend of mine gave me a 10 day trial to WOW and after the events of this week, i think im gona give it a chance. {atleast it will be a vacation from all the BUGS}
Cada_Kai
Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:46 am
#19






Moshkaine wrote:

{atleast it will be a vacation from all the BUGS}





Hey ,,


where can I get a ticket to the Dreamtown you live in?





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VoweDarkwave
Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:22 am
#20






gogoon wrote:





LevarrisHawk wrote:
Moreover leaving, may subconciously be what the devs want you to do.

This game has literally become KOTOR online. So many freaking jedi in a timeline when there was only two alive. (Not including Vader, the emperor)

And whats worse? 90% of the people who arent jedi are desperately trying to become one. Yeah I am too, though not religiously. I have 4 trees unlocked, but hardly have grinded at all. Ill do that when i friggin get around to it.

Bottom line, the more of you that unlock and become jedi, the worse this game is going to get.

Just a theory, but Just in case your wondering why a simple fix to a simple problem has taken a week and still isnt done.. This is why.. SoE doesnt want to see any more jedi. Im inclined to agree with them. Is it fair? not really. But in practicality if they were blocking FS grinders from becoming jedi purposefully. Then I wouldnt argue with them on it if they admitted it.

Just because I cant swing around a lightsaber and hide in PA halls from Bounty Hunters doesnt mean i cant still have fun in this game.





then in that case I would be perfectly happy with a proper statement saying that they want the jedi population growth to stop, rather than letting people think they can become jedis yet screwing them over by hiding the fact it is never going to happen.




The bug has nothing to do with whether the Devs want more Jedi in the game.


It's just a bug, plain and simple. And it seems like it's difficult to pin down, possibly because they can't just reset Sarguillo, or else someone who never took a mission last Phase 4 just unlocked Ranged Speed THIS Phase 4, bam they unlock Melee Defense this Phase 4, too - and unlock 2 branches in one Phase.


I know all this is frustrating, but leaving is your choice. I will say that the Padawan Trials are buggy - sometimes you'll have to restart them because NPC's disappear. Regardless, when you fire up your lightsaber, it's going to be very rewarding. You won't do much damage (it's like being a n00b at any combat profession) but you'll have a LOT of fun.


All I really want to say is that this isn't some SOE conspiracy to reduce the Jedi population, just hang in there and they'll make things right.





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Ackehece
Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:36 am
#21

well good news and bad news:

Tiggs has posted it is a known bug (good)

she says it is being looked at (good)

no eta (bad)


and the funny part of all this is....

FS RANGED SPEED DOES NOT WORK AT ALL - the skill you get from unlocking this does not work (and is not likely to before the CURB from what we understand)



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Scoooter
Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:01 am
#22


THe phase is over half over on Valcyn.


Valcyn switched 2-3 days sooner than all the other servers


Lets look at the responses and see why so many are upset


Bug reported 2/3

Dev repsonse to say they are looking itor reports of the bug - 2/7

Acknowledgement of the bug 2/12


It took hundreds of posts, tickets and /bug reports to get the 2/7 response

It took even more posts to get the 2/12 acknowledgement


Now lets look at another bug


Anti decay kits went in 2/3

Jedi's found they could not use it in their light sabers on 2/3

12 dev responses on 2/3 on this

Hot fix on 2/4


Do you see why people are upset about dev response.





Message Edited by Scoooter on 02-13-2005 12:33 PM



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Iakimo
Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:57 pm
#23


The thread in which this post of mine first appeared has apparently been deleted. So, since this is an issue that should be considered (ending SonGouki's tenure as the Force Sensitive Correspondent, since he is doting on the Jedi forum while appearing to ignore this FS Forum), I'm pasting it into this discussion. I just hope something productive gets done, and soon.


- Iakimo -

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The lack of communication from SonGouki bothers me, too... probably as much as the bug itself. Couple that with the almost-instant fix for the new item-preservation kit (adding lightsabers to the list of items that can be preserved -- it had been omitted), and it creates the PERCEPTION that Jedi are the apples of the developers' eyes, and that we mere Force-Sensitives are just cannon fodder. Where is OUR advocate??


Let's take a look....


Feb. 8...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=711453&highlight=#M711453

Tiggs starts a thread clarifying company policy on Jedi "Fight Clubs" Six posts by Tiggs in this thread.


Feb. 9...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=712953&highlight=#M712953

SonGouki responds in a thread about problems with Jedi visibility. One post, with an elegant list of hyperlinks.


Feb. 10...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=714925&highlight=#M714925

SonGouki tosses in a bit of info into a discussion about a discrepancy with Force Knockdown.


Feb. 10...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=714253&highlight=#M714253

Post by Tiggs on adding lightsabers to the list of items preservable by the anti-decay kits. POSTED WITHIN 24 HOURS OF PUB. 13 GOING LIVE!


Feb. 10...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=714370&highlight=#M714370

Ten posts by SonG. in this thread identifying the highest-quality spawns of Culsion inert gas on every server!


Feb. 11...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=716251&highlight=#M716251

Tiggs on Force-Rank Favoritism as a pretext for extortion. One post.


Feb. 11...

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=716305&highlight=#M716305

SonGouki again, with another lengthy post on fixing the FRS. Five posts by SonG. in this thread.



Jedi Posts by SonG since Feb. 7: 17

Jedi Posts by Tiggs since Feb. 7: 8


F.S. Posts by SonG since Feb. 7: 0

F.S. Posts by Tiggs since Feb. 7: 0




Do the math, and form your own conclusions.



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NEMBOKID
Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:23 pm
#24

Well I have cancelled my 3 accounts, and I will evetntually renew on a monthly base. I had paid for 1year account in advance because I had faith in SOE, well after this and many other game issue so poorly related to the gamers community, I have lost my trust in SOE. Bottom line, they won't get my money in advance, and I fthey don't change how trhey approch problems I will quit the game.
Rafyel
Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:31 pm
#25

i couldnt leave.....still...soo....addicted......


but seriously if any aspect of a game bothers you enough to leave, then leave


i play 3 diff MMORPGs and the best one by far is still this won including WOW and CoH.


If ya wanna leave because being a jedi is hard, i think thats funny considering how hard it used to be.


And any of you who know anything about computers could probably sympathize with the devs. fixing a server bugg is not exactly an easy thing to do. Im no dev, but trust me i dont think they are just blowing you all off. besides if they were sitting on here talking to you guys about the bug, THEY COULDNT BE FIXIN IT!


either way enjoy gaming for gaming


gaming has nothing to do with the devs, even bugs can be fun sometimes lol



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NEMBOKID
Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:57 pm
#26

Rafyel it's pretty clear you do not read the forum, or explain me otherwise hoe u jump to that conclusion.


1) Nobady is complaining abt jedi System , we are complaining abt a bug that prevent us to proceed on our jornery

2) Bug happens and this game is complex we know that, thanks. But what is not accectable is this lack of infor from SOE, these bug is effectinc lot of players, personaly I have not been playing the game since than, because i cant take my final mission. Beside when u pay 30$ a month on subcription you expet a little better customer service, if you are happy with this good luck, until the day something will happen to you.....good luck
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